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All day. Gentlemen. Here we go. Terrence, thank you for coming back. It was a lot of fun having you stuff that people have been playing with since antiquity, that you can't come up that there's nothing new under the sun. Because if there's nothing new under sun, first of all, how did Charles Haberman come up with something so cool? Second of all, that means that there's an object that hasn't been invented. I give this to high school kids. You should be able to throw one of these up as a cube and have it come back as an octahedron. You should come up with a gearing mechanism, and you should be able to throw up a dodecahedron and have it come back in your hand as a differently colored icosahedron. And I've never seen those toys. Just the way the Rubik's cube came out of nowhere or Hungary, and that thing took over the world by storm. So to claim that a guy can't do engineering on platonic solids and come up with something new, the Rubik's cube, the haberman's switch pitch, these things prove that that's not true.I think it's a foolish thing, almost always, to pretend there's nothing new under the sun. You should always consider it. You might not be correct, but there's only one way to find out.There's a difference between. You see, Terence has much greater odds of contributing to the world of engineering than he does to the world of mathematics. I mean, the odds that he's doing something new in mathematics, I'll be blunt, are very, very small, even though I.Have patents on it, that shows that all of this is.I don't want to go there. The patents do nothing. Speak to what you think that they speak to.That's okay.Look, you can see into my heart. I'm not trying to.No, no, no. But we were talking. I told you that they produce a super symmetrical structure.When you say supersymmetry, I don't know that you know what a supersymmetry is?What does supersymmetry mean to you, Terence?Supersymmetry means that all things come together, fit together, relate to each other. They. They come. They're self referencing, referential, and they are from a fractal that comes back to that same fractal space. That's supersymmetry.So what you mean is asymmetry, that is amped up. But supersymmetry is a reserved term that means something hyper particular. And that's what between bosons and fermions?That's what this is. This is the bosons for the layman out there, the boson, the cloud, that the whole boson thing is the force field or the energy field, the fermions is considered the matter aspects of it.So if we can go into his. He's got five of these patterns, one of which he calls the.What is wrong with the term supersymmetry?Then I want to see an algebra, which is a linear vector space, which has an object called a bracket, and I want to see that that bracket obeys a super Jacobi identity, and otherwise, there's no supersymmetry.So it's a specifically used scientific term.It's an art.Yeah, but geometry is its own proof, supersymmetry. And geometry allows you to visualize, like, you look at the ocean and you see the supersymmetry associated with it.I think what he's saying is you're talking about a thing and you're using the term supersymmetry. And he's saying that supersymmetry only applies to a very specific thing, because in their math.No, in their math, the platonic solids, like I said before, have a discrete symmetry. You can only line up the blocks and all of those things. You can't put all of them together and tell a full story to where they fold into each other.I don't think he's disagreeing with you with that. I think he's disagreeing that term of art.You're using a reserved term of art, and you're using it incorrectly. That's. And you're gonna pay a penalty in.Okay, I don't want to play.Like, this is a thing where, like, if I'm watching an mma fight and someone's doing commentary and they call a kick. Wrong.Right.Why are you doing this? You don't even know. You don't even know what that is. Like, you. You incorrectly reference something that's very specific that we've been talking about for a long time.If you're having. If you're getting intimate with your lady and you're into rough play and she's not wearing any clothes, is it a rear naked choke if she grabs you from behind? No. A rear naked choke is a particular move.Yes.Doesn't have anything to do with what she did.Right.So is there.Unless she gets the hooks in question.In the world of. In the world of physics, in the world of mathematics, is there a super symmetrical system, geometric system, ever been produced? In mathematics, yes.In mathematics? Yes.What?We've never seen super what? Super pocare algebra.Yeah, but that. That's not. That. That's on a plane. That's not. That doesn't. That's not volumetrically. That doesn't scale up.Terrence, you have an entire way of thinking that is completely foreign to everyone that I know, and I've tried to understand what it is.Oh, I'm sorry.No, it's not a question.I don't think he's saying this is a negative.No, no, no. I didn't see it as a negative.What I'm trying to say is if the reason that science works as well as it does is that up until very recently, there were clear rules, cultures. We agreed to leave certain things that are at the door, like our religious beliefs. We agreed to submit to certain sorts of things. We were decent to each other, and that system is in a process of collapse at the moment. Now. Well, Terence comes from an earlier way of thinking, when things were much more wide open. You don't find many polymaths anywhere in a respectable position anymore. Terence is coming from a polymathic perspective. He's all over the map in terms of the quality of his thinking. As far as I understand, some of his stuff is really, really good. Some of his stuff is offensive and it's everything in between. Now, I'm not gunning for you.No, no, no. I don't take that offensively. I take it and the fact that you're here. But let's get back to what I was saying about having, if my pieces naturally come together and form those same.Things, what do you do? And they don't.Well, here, here we have.How do they not, Eric?Here's. Well, I'm gonna show them. Here's where twelve bubbles meet. If you go to the yellow one right there, Jamie, please tap on that. This is where the negative space where twelve bubbles meet. I call this the Arborian. I named it after my oldest daughter.Okay.You can take a look at it at how it behaves here, Josh. And you can have a larger one or a smaller one.By the way, I would be honored to have. I'll give you some of these, anything that you make of this type in my home. That's very, very cool.I'm about. So when I put ten of them together, they look like this.Yeah.I put 20 of them together. They make a natural icosahedron.Yeah.Without, without breaking any rules. I'm saying that the.I believe in this, this I don't, I don't disbelieve, I haven't gone through the math, but I don't disbelieve this.I said the same thing about one other thing. So here's the light unit. If you'll go back to the green, Jamie, please. This is the light unit.Now we're going to get into some stuff that's not going to be so much fun, but it is going to be. You are going to get what you want.No, you're going to love this. You're going to love this because what I'm going to show you, as I said and what you said concerning here.Now look at that. That's pretty dope.And it'll show you, this is where 20, where I've put 20 of them together the same way I put 20 of these together and it makes a natural dodecahedron. But what it's showing you is where electricity is being pushed into the center and you'll see these magnetic waves coming out. It's showing you the magnetic field. So these predict and create a natural dodecahedron, whereas these come together and create a natural icosahedron. That's not something that just happens by accident.No, this isn't an accident. You, this is what's going on. Terrance for me.Can you connect all these together in one big ball of fury?Yes. They just keep getting. Because it's super symmetry. They all fit together.I want to see these and these together.It ain't super symmetry, but it's freaking cool, right?I know what you're saying, but the problem is that term.Right, again. But my point is, you can run into all kinds of terms of art in a field that you don't know well.Right.And Terrence is like, I come on your show and I do this thing, which I've never really discussed why I do it. I have this feeling that somehow Sean Carroll, 15 years ago, started talking about a suite of ideas like entanglement, the multiverse, these Boltzmann brains, whatever. And people have been talking about them ever since because it was a very successful tour. Much of the coolest stuff in mathematics and physics that's completely established, that's non speculative, is not discussed, and I don't know why. And one of the things I tried to do is I tried to show you the hop vibration. I tried to do the thing about the Dirac string trick. Terence is bringing cool stuff from the world of geometry. It's a proof, effectively, that people don't know where it's coming from. A lot of this is real as geometry. If you look at the thing that he calls the Tarentin.The tetrian is a tetrian.The tetrian is just the tetrian that is the thing that is closest to us, the black thing that is closest. Closest to us. So he then starts to make noises about it, and he says things that I don't love, which are that those faces he associates with the electric field and the vertices, which sometimes he calls vortices, and sometimes, I'm not quite sure he associates with the magnetic field. Now, I don't have a clue why he says the next thing, which is. And because the number of magnetic and the number of electric things are balanced, they cancel out, and therefore it's the weak force. And to me, it's just like super cool stuff, and then suddenly turns into horseshit.But listen, why? Here we have this. Those two tetrians on the end, they share. They both have equal poles, four electric poles and four magnetic poles, according to how I see it, where magnetism is spinning off of the tips, the vortices, because it's no longer able to maintain that center space of spinning center.I don't know what the hell you're talking about.What brought you to that conclusion?With what?The way you're describing the energy involved in this.Well, anytime you look at electricity, that was one of the things that. That Victor Schauberger was talking about. Electricity is when water starts to spin to the right, it cools down. That's the natural nature of electricity. Electricity is colder. It flows better in the coldest environment. So as it's cooling down, as it's spinning down to a higher point, trying to get to that higher point, that's the highest point there. It's looking for the highest density. That's the north. North is always the highest density. South, no matter where you are, south is always away from the higher point. When you're talking about universally, not talking about geographically on the earth, north is always seeking a higher position. South is always seeking a lower position. That's based upon stuff that Walter Russell talked about. Based upon the stuff that Victor Scharberger talked about. But it's a problem with the definition of the words, the terms.Right.But your description of electromagnetic force and magnetism, like, what or what what is happening, that it's bringing you to this conclusion that you're so specifically saying that something that you literally can't even see with the human eye is happening very clearly.I'm saying four magnetic fields. Right, are pushing in on that area.I don't see magnetic fields. Fields. I see those spheres would be magnetism.What does magnetism do? It expands.What brings you to the radio?Well, I say radiative fields. Let me use the term radiator.Do you know what we always pulling in from the inside. It's always trying to tighten the density.And you assume this energy exists in the flower of life. Why?Because that's where you have an incredible storehouse of things between your ears that you know to associate with. And your brain is like, I mean, in part, it's like if you think about the totality of your brain, it's like a Ferrari engine in a Volkswagen. The Volkswagen chassis is not capable of supporting something else that you're doing really well. And so what you're constantly doing, as far as I can tell.So the chassis being education, formal education.It's not just that. I mean, it's in part, people who see many connections are often bad at cleaning up their own stuff. And people who don't see connections are often very rigorous, and they don't do shit for their entire. Right.See, that's why I like, I love the geometry, because the geometry demonstrates, even though I've been autodidactic and have learned these things on my own, the geometry is its own proof. Like, even in showing that these become dodec, that these create an icosahedron. Let, if you move those just for.A second, Eric, you pulled this up, though. Before we get any further away from that, explain this, please. Electromagnetic tension.What? You see, that FDe super Mu Nu is an anti symmetric four x four matrix. That is, there are only six independent components, because if you flip that matrix from the northeast, from the northwest to the southeast, as the line, which you flip over with the zeros, the things above the zeros determine the things below. So there are six independent entries in the top triangle. Now, the top three are the electric components in a cartesian coordinate system of the, of the tensor, and the b fields are the magnetic. Okay, Terence could say something closer to what we understand reality to be. He could, for example, hold up a cube and say, you know, the six faces of the cube remind me of the six independent entries in the electromagnetic field strength. And then the idea is there's a duality, and the duality relates the electric field to the magnetic field. And then you might invent something called olive Monton electromagnetic duality. Right? So in other words, if I took the top three, if I hold the cube up like this, and I put electric above and magnetic below. And then I did a transformation that took top faces to bottom faces.He would be doing something that might bring him to recent research on electromagnetic duality. But instead, what's happening is that the spheres are reminding him of waves, like wave fronts, that are expanding spherically. And he's got super cool geometry that the reason that this is so cool is that we haven't seen much of it. It's not saying that it doesn't exist. I'm not saying he's the inventor.Well, I am the inventor because I own the patents.Okay? But you can find out that there's prior art later. Look, everybody. Everybody's been hurt.I love to see that.Okay.Like I said, though, I think you're doing.Terrence, I have no desire to take this way. So far as I know, you're the first person to do this. Okay. Now, with that said, you're taking something where he's saying real stuff about geometrical understanding based on a spiritual undertaking. And it used to be that spirituality and science were hand in hand. That's what I was trying to say about the Kerala school that figured out almost got calculus coming out of religious verse. Like, stuff that rhymed. It's crazy. Terence is coming from an older perspective, where he's drawing tons of inspiration from all these different sources. I can track it, but, like, good luck finding people who can track this, because the number of people who can do this is very, very small.But that's the problem. Okay, go ahead.Agreed. Now, then, every time he steps on a landmine, my colleagues just start laughing. And that makes me crazy, because they could help him figure out what actually he is trying to say. So, if we go back to his.This electromagnetic tensor, how does this apply to these patterns in the void in.Between these patterns, that thing we did not understand until the mid 1970s. Remember, I tried to tell you to get Jim Simons on this podcast, and then he just died. Jim SimOns and CN Yang figured out, and this is going to figure into what Terrence is saying, that everything, all forces are curvature. It's not just gravity, which we've known has been curvature since 1915, actually 1913 for Einstein, Grossman. It's actually the case that electromagnetism, the weak force and the strong force, are a different form of curvature, which might be called erasmanian curvature, or fiber bundle curvature, which is not necessarily romanian intrinsic curvature. This object encodes. The curvature encodes electromagnetism as the components of curvature to your point about nothing is a straight line.But that's. This is where I have issues you're talking about. This is in cartesian space. And in cartesian space, curvature is not allowed. There's no curvature that's allowed in cartesian space.That's wrong.Really?Yeah, because what you have, and by the way, this is super subtle thing, we've only really known this for 50 years. Thereabouts. There is, this is a weird, mysterious circle that none of us can see at every point in space and time that we can't derive from space. You can have space time and something else. Put a circle at every point that is obscured from us, and that thing has a curvature, even if space and time is flat. So we call the idealization of flat spacetime. In Kovsky space, you can slap a curvature tensor of a circle on top of it, generate this, and it wasn't until. And this is mind blowing. Can we get the Aronoff Bohm effect up here?See, but that's where my biggest issue is. Why go through all of those steps to define curved space with flat plane matrix when you have the definition of it right in front of you? That's why, when you get a chance, I'd love for you to lay these out so you can see. It predicts every distribution, every wave form. There's nothing that this doesn't.I want you to think about. You ever play blackjack?I've never been good at blackjack.Okay, well, that's never been good, because.You'Re sitting there.17, and you're sitting there on 19, and you say, hit me. And all I hear is, hit me on 19 and you keep going over.Okay?All right. Now this thing here is a proof. This is a gift for you. This says, we did not understand classical electromagnetism until the late 1950s. Well, after Mister Maxwell. Now what happened is we thought electromagnetism was that thing with the electronization electric magnetic field components that we just saw. If you put a wire coming out of this plane of the screen and you insulate it where it says solenoid, can we just isolate that we can see it? Yeah. Okay. Now you have this crazy thing, which is like you have a cathode ray tube at a, let's imagine, and you shoot it through a double slit, and you want to know whether or not there's current flowing in this insulated thing that you can't see. Now, you think that the insulation is going to keep you from being able to tell whether there's current flowing. It turns out that the interference pattern changes whether there's current, even though there's no e and b fields outside of that insulated structure. And that proves that it cannot be the electromagnetic field strengthen that actually determines electromagnetic phenomena. What's really going on? Can we call up the electromagnetic four potential?So, one of the things is, if you want to, if you want to hang with the cool kids on any of this stuff, you don't try to map the electromagnetic fields, because it's the electromagnetic for potential that's got it going on. Let's look at that thing that looks cool. I'm looking for something that looks like, like a equals and then four components. Well, hit that thing, what you just had. That's good. That a, where you see partial derivative of a that thing is called the gage potential. And the gage potential, the gage potential is really where the electromagnetism is happening. This thing over here on the right, the Faraday tensor, is a consequence of. Of the real star of the show. A is the thing that matters. And we thought that a was a convenience product that constructed the electromagnetic field strength until the late 1950s. I think one of these guys who developed this, his name is Jacir Aronoff, who's at Chapman University. I think he's still alive. So, in other words, we fooled ourselves into thinking we understood electromagnetism until the late 1950s, which is one of the reasons that you listen to your heterodox colleagues as opposed to making fun of them mercilessly, because you're not nearly as smart as you think you are.Now, most of the time, what Neil says is, oh, yes, one in 10,000 heterodox people have a point. And Neil bets on the 9999 who don't. And so he doesn't listen. This thing here is a proof that you can find elementary omissions very late in the game that change everything. And everybody who pretends that peer review works and that we've known this since antiquity, all this stuff, they need to understand the exceptions we've already found. If Terence wants to do good, he would take that a with the new at the beginning, and he would say, okay, electromagnetism isn't about the electric and magnetization fields. It's about four of these suckers rather than six of those.On a simple level, how would you describe electricity?Well, I wouldn't know how to do not allowed.I mean, and them saying that the cosmological constant is zero, which means.Do you know what a Jim Gates is?No Jim Gates.Can you explain what the cosmological constant means?Can we bring up the Einstein field equation with cosmological constant?Is that they.The dark energy that's that dark.The quantum field that they. Not the quantum field. The. What do they call it? The vacuum.All right.Is that the vacuum?Yeah, let's pull that one. No, no. Yeah, I like that one. Okay, so that arm, you knew, is the Ricci curvature. That is a sub sort of a sub packaging of the full curvature. So you throw away a piece, like fileting it, and you throw away the.Vial curvature plus a bivector.Well, these are symmetric two tensors. Sometimes people call bivector. I find that terminology confusing, but you're in the right neighborhood. That lambda is what's called the cosmological constant. And there's a raging controversy as to whether that thing is a number or whether that thing is like the temperature, which might vary subtly. And this was this thing that. Where Einstein supposedly said his greatest blunder was to put this in, he then found that you need this because Hubble shows that the universe is expanding. And then, very recently, in the end of the millennium, they said, not only is it expanding, but it's expanding at an accelerating rate. And that's when this whole dark energy thing really took shape. That thing. And where was I going with this? Oh, yeah. Jim Gates, who's probably the finest african american physicist we have. Brilliant, brilliant guy at the University of Maryland, College park. He's a string theorist, so he and I are naturally like Montagues and Capulets, but he's a lovely guy. Very, very brilliant. He says, look, we need supersymmetry, because that thing should blow up, and it's almost zero. And the only way that it's almost zero is because the bosons and the fermions, if supersymmetry is true, have to be balanced, right?So imagine that you had two gods pushing on a door, and they're of exactly equal strength. The door doesn't move practically at all, not because they're not powerful, but because they're perfectly balanced, like, unnaturally balanced.And so what happens when an irresistible force hits an immovable.Well, but these are two irresistible forces pushing in different directions and creating the immovable object between them to carry through the analogy. So that thing has to do with a balancing between two incredibly powerful but opposite structures. And I think that you're negating the idea very often that you can have perfectly balanced things through fine tuning issues. Now, one of the fine tuning issues that we don't talk about, we usually talk about them in physics, but the most famous one should be the one in biology, which is, before we had DNA, there was a guy named Erwin Chargaff. And he gave Watson and crick the worst peer review in human history. He said that these are and Jay Bhattachary, I was just with Jay Bhattacharya. In Italy, you have this guy who has a PhD in economics, and he's a doctor and he's a professor, and he becomes a fringe epidemiologist overnight because some bureaucrat who was probably in control of the bioweapons portfolio, you know, because we signed these two treaties during the 1970s, the Geneva Convention and the Bioweapons convention, he and Francis Collins suddenly convert a respected colleague into a fringe epidemiologist. It's like, no, we're gonna have a mutiny, and the mutiny is gonna be based here because this is a place that you'd invite Tony Fauci and Jay Bhattacharya.Oh, for sure.Yeah, we can do any of that.I bring garlic.We could have Michio Kaku crosses on the wall. Let's have Michio Kaku and Brian Green. Let's have a discussion about string theory. Let's fundamentally discuss neoclassical economics. Shall we discuss whether or not random mutation is the true engine of neo Darwinism? Is that reasonable? Or do some of these crazy people who say, I don't know what it is, but random mutation isn't powerful enough to build proteins because stability is too difficult. The sad fact, Joe, is that you built something that has some credibility. And even though you think of it as, I just like having conversations with people, and a lot of them are fighters, and I'm just a meatball. We don't have any other place. We can't go to the National Academy of Science. It's too politicized. We can't go to Harvard. You saw what just happened with Claudine Gay, who's still a professor. We've lost everything. And podcasts as dippy and shitty and as variable in quality as they are, Jerry, very much included, is this is all that's left. And my claim is that I'll challenge Neil. I actually think that this is a better place to do review because I'm on the hook.And by the way, some of the shit that I've said is probably wrong.The thing that pisses everybody off is the fact that I have the models behind what I'm talking about. When I talk about when we describe the electric field or the plasmic field, I've got models that define every aspect of that motion, and I'm waiting for it to be reviewed.I will shorten you.I would. I would love that. I would love that.I'll take some of your money.I would love that. I would, I would, I would love that.But I'll also try to help make them better.But it's having the proof. And then, mind you, like Jamie, if you pull up the.But Terence, you know what he's saying about, like, not being an expert in teaching and then coming from the outside and that. It's insulting. It's like, yeah, it's insulting. It's a bad way to approach a concept, because the people that have been studying these concepts for so long, instantaneously are told that they don't know, but, you know, and that's offensive to people that are actual experts in a thing. I think the same ideas could be portrayed in a way that does not do that.They have to learn that nomenclature.It's just, you're so much smarter than most of the people you're talking to. That's what the problem is.And this is one of the failures of Joe's bullshit detector. In other words, you believe what you're saying. And you're obviously very, very smart, and you obviously have a huge amount of things that you've been introduced to. Like how many other people bring up Herman Grossman and geometric algebra and Clifford algebra. I think I'm probably the only other one in the history of this program to do that.When I saw you mentioned Clifford algebra, I was like, ok, there's a commonality right now.Sean Carroll for sure knows what a Clifford algebra. I'm not sure whether Neil degrasse Tyson does. Brian Greene certainly does. But in general, this stuff doesn't get introduced in places like this. And then, and you'll watch this in yourself. I'll try to put a circuit in your mind so you'll know exactly the point where you start pissing my community off. Can we bring up the cruel tutelage of Pai Mei?What's that?I love chick flicks, and I think the ultimate chick flick.Joe, it sounds like my ex wife.I've seen you right now with your socks on.Let's go. Let's. Let's go earlier than this.Is that from kill Bill?Yeah.Oh, okay.I can't show this.That's why we can't. Yeah, you gotta be more specific.Show. The bride goes up to the top of these stairs, okay. And Peime asks her, what do you know? And she says something like, I am acquainted with such and such so and so, and I am more than proficient in the fine art of japanese, whatever. And Pai Mei completely kicks her ass because she doesn't understand where she is. And my claim is, is that you need your ass kicked, and you need to apprentice to some of us who know more than you. And believe me, let me just tell you this. I've had my ass kicked, and I will get my ass kicked more because you need some kind of humility. You're coming across wrong, by the way. Never pick a fight with Jamie Foxx. Holy shit. Is that guy good at everything?I learned that the hard way.Jimmy, if you're out there, I totally love you. And what you did in Ray is just unbelievable.He does in every move.He's just. He's so damn good.Yeah. He's an insanely talented person.He's an insanely talented person.He's one of the most intelligent people I've met. I was sitting on the set of Ali with him, and I'm playing chess with him, and I'm playing a serious game of chess. He's having a conversation with two other people while he's playing chess with me as if it's nothing. As if it's nothing. Yeah. And I play chess well. So for I was. I've never been more impressed with somebody who can compartmentalize. And he's an organizational genius.He's whatever he is. He is. But you know what? I had my guy. My guy was named Noam Elkes. I don't know if Noam Elkey. Never heard of no Milkey Nomelke's. I entered Harvard at 19 with a master's degree. Noam was 18. He didn't have a master's degree. So we were sort of, in a weird way, neck and neck and everything that I thought I was good at, nome was better. Noam, I played a little piano. Gnome could compose anything. I mean, this guy's just, like, super genius, beyond genius, right? And he was, he wasn't a bad guy at all, but he was so powerful in his mind that, like, he composed, I think, an eleven by eleven crossword with no black squares, stuff that just can't be done. And I thought, geez, there's just no point in competing with gnome alkes. And one Christmas party, the professor named Raoul bott heard me trying to play boogie woogie piano. And Noam sat down, and like Raoul said, why don't you play us some boogie woogie? And Noam started playing what he thought was boogie woogie, but it was like Rachmaninoff. And Raoul would say, no, no, no, and Noam would go into Chopin, and then he'd go into Liszt.He was playing ever more brilliant things, and finally his brain just blew because he couldn't think through boogie woogie. But Noam then became the youngest professor in the history of Harvard University. I realized that I had accidentally entered in a year in which a gnome elkies was present. And by having my ass kicked repeatedly by this guy, I had to ask myself the question, well, what am I doing on this planet? What do I have to contribute? And all the things I see a Jamie Foxx doing, he's not trying to do anything like this, right? There's a creative spark and a spirit in you that I really see and appreciate. It comes from an older era, and we don't have people like you in the academy anywhere. We used to have lots of these polymaths connect fields. And right now, what we've got is a specialization epidemic. And as far as I can tell, what you need is some discipline. And you need discipline from coming into contact with people who know a lot more than you, who can educate you as to what, we already understand how to communicate those things and not just shut them down.And the epidemic we have is assassins. We have an assassin epidemic because the midwits in the system, all they do is see things in terms of, like, Dunning Kruger. Dunning Kruger. Dunning Kruger. The funny part about it is that that's the midwits endpoint, is that they see heterodox thinkers and they can't figure out how to place them. And so they just say, if I can find one error, I can reject everything. And you keep triggering that, and that's.Why you are one times one. But that's why I keep saying the one times one is more of not a metaphor.To us, it is life and death. You try to sneak one times one through airport security, it's like. It's just the Glock 19.I understand that, but it was really to gain the attention.They never do it to gain the attention.You didn't know, and now you know.Well, okay, there's one more that's going to keep us from ever getting you through this thing. Can we pull up my page again?And we're gonna wrap it up with this one.Yeah. I wanted. Well, I want to do this. It'd be a little bit.We didn't even. But we didn't even.Terrence.Terrence, we're so far down the road.This is four and a half hours.Okay. I want you to take a look at the chemical engineering PhD, because if we don't do that, I can't actually help you.Oh, that right there. Let me talk to. Let me explain that. Yeah, here. I took over to. What was the name of the university? South Carolina University. I was working with Apollo diamonds. We were growing diamonds, and I had developed a way in which to grow diamonds larger than the two carat diamonds. I went over to South Carolina University, and I talked to them about introducing the diamond process, you know, into their university. They were going to give me an honorary degree.Okay.Now I'm thinking they're giving me an honorary degree in chemical engineering because of what I'm doing, and it's just an honorary degree in humanities that they gave me. And so I went on the show, and I was like, yeah, well, I got the. I got an honorary degree from them. But that ended up coming across as if I got an honorary degree in chemical engineering, which I don't have. An honorary degree in chemical engineering.Assume you did. An honorary degree is worthless. It's like, would you take, if your. If your child needed brain surgery, would you go to doctor Dre.No.Okay, Aaron, I want you to hold this. As a guy who had. Who was 19 with a master's degree, Harvard University. And I got into a fight and took me seven years to get that away from it, from them. And they would have been happy to bury me without it. Okay? That is blood, sweat, and tears. And the work that I actually started doing ended up in somebody else's name because Harvard University credited with them, with it.That's the PhD person.When you screw around with a PhD like this, Claudine gay. This woman needs to be fired. Okay? Harvard University needs to go back to the business of kicking ass and taking names and being the place that is the shining city on the hill. Enough with the antisemitism. Enough with the woke, enough with the DEI. Don't ever let me catch you talking about Jim Crow mathematics. You're getting absolutely treated seriously for the serious stuff that you've done. You're getting treated properly for the wrong stuff. That thing about the PhD, it's basically fraud. What I'm saying to you is, I don't give a shit. Merit is merit. If I can catch you in a fraud, if I can catch you in a lie, I can catch you in an error. I don't care. My question is, what did you do? What was the cool stuff you did do? I'm not an assassin. I don't care if you, in part, exaggerated your achievements. I know how. What it feels like to be shat on. I know that you have no ability to fight what's being said to you from on high. Okay. What I'm saying is, the only thing that matters is what you contribute in the end.And imagine that there was. Was fraud. Imagine that there were lies. Imagine that there were errors. And imagine that the linchpin turns out to be the next level drone that defines everything, because, accidentally, there are six degrees of freedom and there's six dimensions in the semi direct product of so three with r three. Whatever. It doesn't matter. It's that cool. Gregor Mendel probably faked his peapod experiments, and there's a guy named David E. Kaplan at Johns Hopkins University who said to me something so beautiful, I can't reproduce it. He said, physics is based on everything. It's the backstabbing. It's the frauds. It's the geniuses. It's the craftsmen and the workmen who get the job done, the experimentalists who toil on papers with a thousand people. And this community of all of these people have come together to produce something which is something close to the source code of the universe. And if you're interested in that pursuit and you want to get rid of some of the baby fat and some of the bullshit, I'm happy to help. There's a lot of work to do. It. It happens that I had done a lot of the work over my life so I didn't have to put an infinite amount of energy into this.But what happened is that you created a mass delusion, and it was a mass delusion in part because we were not aware of what mass delusions actually are. They start with a nub of truth. They start with creative sparks of genius. So we're on the lookout for people who are just frauds, who have nothing that they actually can contribute. And what we don't realize is that you have these things about Kayfabe, which are these melanges of reality and fakery, right? And they're interwoven. What you've produced is something that is part bullshit it and part real contribution. And we don't have a system to pull it apart, and we don't have any experience for how to sense when that's what's going on.But they consider the bullshit to be the one times one equaling two. And the 97 patents, the super symmetry.It'S not the 97 patents. It's not the supersymmetry. It's simply the residue, the reduction of. When we get rid of all the stuff that wasn't supposed to be here. Here. Because you're a self taught polymath, you're obviously incredibly intelligent. You're obviously not taught by the system, and you can't do that work all on your own.No.So you got to come in and you got to find somebody who's not looking to kill you.And that's been the entire dance. What I've tried to do is introduce a new set of tools to the scientific and mathematical community so that they can advance past the platonic solids. The platonic solids I still see in the two or three dimensional position. And since we are living in hyperspace and hyperbolic reality, then we need to have tools that define that hyperbolic space so we don't have to go through Lorenzo transformations and all of these unnecessary steps in order to get to defining curved space.I think that the real story, Terrence, is going to be whether you can stop teaching long enough to accept some help.I'm here to accept the help, and.I'm here to learn from you. Because I'll tell you something. The linchpin is a good example of something which I didn't know. And to the extent that I did know it, I threw it away. And I think it's a great idea. And I think that the art, and I think that some of the higher dimensional stuff, and I think that a lot of this stuff has a kind of beauty, that if John Horton Conway were still alive and hadn't been killed by Covid, I'd know where to send you. There's a guy, you know, there are sphere packing people. There are combinatorists. There are all sorts of people who play with stuff in this realm. But the one thing that you've got to stop doing is that when you get on a program that has millions of people, you can't create one more mass delusion. I've got a fauci. Mass delusion. I've got a string theory mass delusion. I've got a Biden. This fine mass delusion. I've got a Trump is not a problem. Mass delusion. All I have, morning, noon, and night, is mass delusion on mass delusion. But people don't understand that. The reason that these mass delusions get started is that there's enough of truth in them.QAnon is not, can't be total bullshit, because it's got some core in it. That's right. And some craziness. If you think about dianetics and Scientology, the first thing that they teach about is the reactive mind. That's not a terrible theory. And then before you know it, it's xenu and volcanoes. Right. So what's going on is that people are not aware of how kayfabe works. Right. Wrestling is one of the most dangerous, demanding sports of a certain kind. Now, it happens to be theatrical and pre programmed, but if you've ever dealt with anybody like the wrestling community, suffers a death rate unlike any other sport in the world. What you have to understand is that kayfabe, and I highly recommend you look at my essay from 2011, is about what happens when fantasy and reality intermingle. And that's what you did on the last time that you were here. And I can talk to you about the fantasy. I can talk to you about the fraud and the lies. But I'm also going to talk to you about the contributions, the genius and the insight. And what I want the world to learn is you're getting sucked into mass delusions that you're not properly imagining.There's almost always a core of truth and reality that the mainstream won't acknowledge. And then there's almost always a bullshit payload that gets leavened in because in some sense, the mainstream is our official cult and then all of the rest of us produce these other cults. And in my situation, I've gone 40 years and I haven't had a really deep conversation about GU geometric unity with my own community. Where you are is that you're in a world in which the number of people who are both competent and honest and ethical enough to have the conversation with you has dwindling to fewer than ten. It's been a pleasure and an honor to appear with you. Thanks for being a decent guy. I know that not all of this has been welcomed.This has all been welcomed. Any truth. And like I said, I take you up on examining and exploring these into the areas because like I said, these are tools. I just want to offer a new set of tools, tools to that community so that they can now advance past the points where we are.Try not offering, because the first thing you need to do, the first thing you need to do is not necessarily be a student. It's not a higher versus lower, but just recognize that you're bringing gifts and you're bringing problems. And it's very expensive to help you, but it doesn't mean it's impossible. And one of the great things about this program is that if there is anybody out there, there, they can hear it. Now, I'll be honest with you. I've been on this program maybe six times before. I am often astounded that I can reach all of planet Earth and there isn't a single soul who can hear me. And I think that one of the things you're going to have to reckon with is you're saying certain things and you may get hundreds and hundreds or thousands of responses and there won't be a single meaningful response among them. And I don't know what to do about that. That. But stay off Twitter. I did. I, yeah, I. I did my best to give you whatever response I could.All I really want is if you saw some benefit in the things that I've displayed and showed, shared with you.I want them in my house.Then let's have a conversation. I've got, I've got it set for you.We got, we're all connected now. Thank you very much, gentlemen. It was a lot of fun.Thank you, guys.Very interesting, very informative. Thank you, Jamie.Thank you, Jamie, very, very much.All right. Bye, everybody.Thank you.

stuff that people have been playing with since antiquity, that you can't come up that there's nothing new under the sun. Because if there's nothing new under sun, first of all, how did Charles Haberman come up with something so cool? Second of all, that means that there's an object that hasn't been invented. I give this to high school kids. You should be able to throw one of these up as a cube and have it come back as an octahedron. You should come up with a gearing mechanism, and you should be able to throw up a dodecahedron and have it come back in your hand as a differently colored icosahedron. And I've never seen those toys. Just the way the Rubik's cube came out of nowhere or Hungary, and that thing took over the world by storm. So to claim that a guy can't do engineering on platonic solids and come up with something new, the Rubik's cube, the haberman's switch pitch, these things prove that that's not true.

I think it's a foolish thing, almost always, to pretend there's nothing new under the sun. You should always consider it. You might not be correct, but there's only one way to find out.

There's a difference between. You see, Terence has much greater odds of contributing to the world of engineering than he does to the world of mathematics. I mean, the odds that he's doing something new in mathematics, I'll be blunt, are very, very small, even though I.

Have patents on it, that shows that all of this is.

I don't want to go there. The patents do nothing. Speak to what you think that they speak to.

That's okay.

Look, you can see into my heart. I'm not trying to.

No, no, no. But we were talking. I told you that they produce a super symmetrical structure.

When you say supersymmetry, I don't know that you know what a supersymmetry is?

What does supersymmetry mean to you, Terence?

Supersymmetry means that all things come together, fit together, relate to each other. They. They come. They're self referencing, referential, and they are from a fractal that comes back to that same fractal space. That's supersymmetry.

So what you mean is asymmetry, that is amped up. But supersymmetry is a reserved term that means something hyper particular. And that's what between bosons and fermions?

That's what this is. This is the bosons for the layman out there, the boson, the cloud, that the whole boson thing is the force field or the energy field, the fermions is considered the matter aspects of it.

So if we can go into his. He's got five of these patterns, one of which he calls the.

What is wrong with the term supersymmetry?

Then I want to see an algebra, which is a linear vector space, which has an object called a bracket, and I want to see that that bracket obeys a super Jacobi identity, and otherwise, there's no supersymmetry.

So it's a specifically used scientific term.

It's an art.

Yeah, but geometry is its own proof, supersymmetry. And geometry allows you to visualize, like, you look at the ocean and you see the supersymmetry associated with it.

I think what he's saying is you're talking about a thing and you're using the term supersymmetry. And he's saying that supersymmetry only applies to a very specific thing, because in their math.

No, in their math, the platonic solids, like I said before, have a discrete symmetry. You can only line up the blocks and all of those things. You can't put all of them together and tell a full story to where they fold into each other.

I don't think he's disagreeing with you with that. I think he's disagreeing that term of art.

You're using a reserved term of art, and you're using it incorrectly. That's. And you're gonna pay a penalty in.

Okay, I don't want to play.

Like, this is a thing where, like, if I'm watching an mma fight and someone's doing commentary and they call a kick. Wrong.

Right.

Why are you doing this? You don't even know. You don't even know what that is. Like, you. You incorrectly reference something that's very specific that we've been talking about for a long time.

If you're having. If you're getting intimate with your lady and you're into rough play and she's not wearing any clothes, is it a rear naked choke if she grabs you from behind? No. A rear naked choke is a particular move.

Yes.

Doesn't have anything to do with what she did.

Right.

So is there.

Unless she gets the hooks in question.

In the world of. In the world of physics, in the world of mathematics, is there a super symmetrical system, geometric system, ever been produced? In mathematics, yes.

In mathematics? Yes.

What?

We've never seen super what? Super pocare algebra.

Yeah, but that. That's not. That. That's on a plane. That's not. That doesn't. That's not volumetrically. That doesn't scale up.

Terrence, you have an entire way of thinking that is completely foreign to everyone that I know, and I've tried to understand what it is.

Oh, I'm sorry.

No, it's not a question.

I don't think he's saying this is a negative.

No, no, no. I didn't see it as a negative.

What I'm trying to say is if the reason that science works as well as it does is that up until very recently, there were clear rules, cultures. We agreed to leave certain things that are at the door, like our religious beliefs. We agreed to submit to certain sorts of things. We were decent to each other, and that system is in a process of collapse at the moment. Now. Well, Terence comes from an earlier way of thinking, when things were much more wide open. You don't find many polymaths anywhere in a respectable position anymore. Terence is coming from a polymathic perspective. He's all over the map in terms of the quality of his thinking. As far as I understand, some of his stuff is really, really good. Some of his stuff is offensive and it's everything in between. Now, I'm not gunning for you.

No, no, no. I don't take that offensively. I take it and the fact that you're here. But let's get back to what I was saying about having, if my pieces naturally come together and form those same.

Things, what do you do? And they don't.

Well, here, here we have.

How do they not, Eric?

Here's. Well, I'm gonna show them. Here's where twelve bubbles meet. If you go to the yellow one right there, Jamie, please tap on that. This is where the negative space where twelve bubbles meet. I call this the Arborian. I named it after my oldest daughter.

Okay.

You can take a look at it at how it behaves here, Josh. And you can have a larger one or a smaller one.

By the way, I would be honored to have. I'll give you some of these, anything that you make of this type in my home. That's very, very cool.

I'm about. So when I put ten of them together, they look like this.

Yeah.

I put 20 of them together. They make a natural icosahedron.

Yeah.

Without, without breaking any rules. I'm saying that the.

I believe in this, this I don't, I don't disbelieve, I haven't gone through the math, but I don't disbelieve this.

I said the same thing about one other thing. So here's the light unit. If you'll go back to the green, Jamie, please. This is the light unit.

Now we're going to get into some stuff that's not going to be so much fun, but it is going to be. You are going to get what you want.

No, you're going to love this. You're going to love this because what I'm going to show you, as I said and what you said concerning here.

Now look at that. That's pretty dope.

And it'll show you, this is where 20, where I've put 20 of them together the same way I put 20 of these together and it makes a natural dodecahedron. But what it's showing you is where electricity is being pushed into the center and you'll see these magnetic waves coming out. It's showing you the magnetic field. So these predict and create a natural dodecahedron, whereas these come together and create a natural icosahedron. That's not something that just happens by accident.

No, this isn't an accident. You, this is what's going on. Terrance for me.

Can you connect all these together in one big ball of fury?

Yes. They just keep getting. Because it's super symmetry. They all fit together.

I want to see these and these together.

It ain't super symmetry, but it's freaking cool, right?

I know what you're saying, but the problem is that term.

Right, again. But my point is, you can run into all kinds of terms of art in a field that you don't know well.

Right.

And Terrence is like, I come on your show and I do this thing, which I've never really discussed why I do it. I have this feeling that somehow Sean Carroll, 15 years ago, started talking about a suite of ideas like entanglement, the multiverse, these Boltzmann brains, whatever. And people have been talking about them ever since because it was a very successful tour. Much of the coolest stuff in mathematics and physics that's completely established, that's non speculative, is not discussed, and I don't know why. And one of the things I tried to do is I tried to show you the hop vibration. I tried to do the thing about the Dirac string trick. Terence is bringing cool stuff from the world of geometry. It's a proof, effectively, that people don't know where it's coming from. A lot of this is real as geometry. If you look at the thing that he calls the Tarentin.

The tetrian is a tetrian.

The tetrian is just the tetrian that is the thing that is closest to us, the black thing that is closest. Closest to us. So he then starts to make noises about it, and he says things that I don't love, which are that those faces he associates with the electric field and the vertices, which sometimes he calls vortices, and sometimes, I'm not quite sure he associates with the magnetic field. Now, I don't have a clue why he says the next thing, which is. And because the number of magnetic and the number of electric things are balanced, they cancel out, and therefore it's the weak force. And to me, it's just like super cool stuff, and then suddenly turns into horseshit.

But listen, why? Here we have this. Those two tetrians on the end, they share. They both have equal poles, four electric poles and four magnetic poles, according to how I see it, where magnetism is spinning off of the tips, the vortices, because it's no longer able to maintain that center space of spinning center.

I don't know what the hell you're talking about.

What brought you to that conclusion?

With what?

The way you're describing the energy involved in this.

Well, anytime you look at electricity, that was one of the things that. That Victor Schauberger was talking about. Electricity is when water starts to spin to the right, it cools down. That's the natural nature of electricity. Electricity is colder. It flows better in the coldest environment. So as it's cooling down, as it's spinning down to a higher point, trying to get to that higher point, that's the highest point there. It's looking for the highest density. That's the north. North is always the highest density. South, no matter where you are, south is always away from the higher point. When you're talking about universally, not talking about geographically on the earth, north is always seeking a higher position. South is always seeking a lower position. That's based upon stuff that Walter Russell talked about. Based upon the stuff that Victor Scharberger talked about. But it's a problem with the definition of the words, the terms.

Right.

But your description of electromagnetic force and magnetism, like, what or what what is happening, that it's bringing you to this conclusion that you're so specifically saying that something that you literally can't even see with the human eye is happening very clearly.

I'm saying four magnetic fields. Right, are pushing in on that area.

I don't see magnetic fields. Fields. I see those spheres would be magnetism.

What does magnetism do? It expands.

What brings you to the radio?

Well, I say radiative fields. Let me use the term radiator.

Do you know what we always pulling in from the inside. It's always trying to tighten the density.And you assume this energy exists in the flower of life. Why?Because that's where you have an incredible storehouse of things between your ears that you know to associate with. And your brain is like, I mean, in part, it's like if you think about the totality of your brain, it's like a Ferrari engine in a Volkswagen. The Volkswagen chassis is not capable of supporting something else that you're doing really well. And so what you're constantly doing, as far as I can tell.So the chassis being education, formal education.It's not just that. I mean, it's in part, people who see many connections are often bad at cleaning up their own stuff. And people who don't see connections are often very rigorous, and they don't do shit for their entire. Right.See, that's why I like, I love the geometry, because the geometry demonstrates, even though I've been autodidactic and have learned these things on my own, the geometry is its own proof. Like, even in showing that these become dodec, that these create an icosahedron. Let, if you move those just for.A second, Eric, you pulled this up, though. Before we get any further away from that, explain this, please. Electromagnetic tension.What? You see, that FDe super Mu Nu is an anti symmetric four x four matrix. That is, there are only six independent components, because if you flip that matrix from the northeast, from the northwest to the southeast, as the line, which you flip over with the zeros, the things above the zeros determine the things below. So there are six independent entries in the top triangle. Now, the top three are the electric components in a cartesian coordinate system of the, of the tensor, and the b fields are the magnetic. Okay, Terence could say something closer to what we understand reality to be. He could, for example, hold up a cube and say, you know, the six faces of the cube remind me of the six independent entries in the electromagnetic field strength. And then the idea is there's a duality, and the duality relates the electric field to the magnetic field. And then you might invent something called olive Monton electromagnetic duality. Right? So in other words, if I took the top three, if I hold the cube up like this, and I put electric above and magnetic below. And then I did a transformation that took top faces to bottom faces.He would be doing something that might bring him to recent research on electromagnetic duality. But instead, what's happening is that the spheres are reminding him of waves, like wave fronts, that are expanding spherically. And he's got super cool geometry that the reason that this is so cool is that we haven't seen much of it. It's not saying that it doesn't exist. I'm not saying he's the inventor.Well, I am the inventor because I own the patents.Okay? But you can find out that there's prior art later. Look, everybody. Everybody's been hurt.I love to see that.Okay.Like I said, though, I think you're doing.Terrence, I have no desire to take this way. So far as I know, you're the first person to do this. Okay. Now, with that said, you're taking something where he's saying real stuff about geometrical understanding based on a spiritual undertaking. And it used to be that spirituality and science were hand in hand. That's what I was trying to say about the Kerala school that figured out almost got calculus coming out of religious verse. Like, stuff that rhymed. It's crazy. Terence is coming from an older perspective, where he's drawing tons of inspiration from all these different sources. I can track it, but, like, good luck finding people who can track this, because the number of people who can do this is very, very small.But that's the problem. Okay, go ahead.Agreed. Now, then, every time he steps on a landmine, my colleagues just start laughing. And that makes me crazy, because they could help him figure out what actually he is trying to say. So, if we go back to his.This electromagnetic tensor, how does this apply to these patterns in the void in.Between these patterns, that thing we did not understand until the mid 1970s. Remember, I tried to tell you to get Jim Simons on this podcast, and then he just died. Jim SimOns and CN Yang figured out, and this is going to figure into what Terrence is saying, that everything, all forces are curvature. It's not just gravity, which we've known has been curvature since 1915, actually 1913 for Einstein, Grossman. It's actually the case that electromagnetism, the weak force and the strong force, are a different form of curvature, which might be called erasmanian curvature, or fiber bundle curvature, which is not necessarily romanian intrinsic curvature. This object encodes. The curvature encodes electromagnetism as the components of curvature to your point about nothing is a straight line.But that's. This is where I have issues you're talking about. This is in cartesian space. And in cartesian space, curvature is not allowed. There's no curvature that's allowed in cartesian space.That's wrong.Really?Yeah, because what you have, and by the way, this is super subtle thing, we've only really known this for 50 years. Thereabouts. There is, this is a weird, mysterious circle that none of us can see at every point in space and time that we can't derive from space. You can have space time and something else. Put a circle at every point that is obscured from us, and that thing has a curvature, even if space and time is flat. So we call the idealization of flat spacetime. In Kovsky space, you can slap a curvature tensor of a circle on top of it, generate this, and it wasn't until. And this is mind blowing. Can we get the Aronoff Bohm effect up here?See, but that's where my biggest issue is. Why go through all of those steps to define curved space with flat plane matrix when you have the definition of it right in front of you? That's why, when you get a chance, I'd love for you to lay these out so you can see. It predicts every distribution, every wave form. There's nothing that this doesn't.I want you to think about. You ever play blackjack?I've never been good at blackjack.Okay, well, that's never been good, because.You'Re sitting there.17, and you're sitting there on 19, and you say, hit me. And all I hear is, hit me on 19 and you keep going over.Okay?All right. Now this thing here is a proof. This is a gift for you. This says, we did not understand classical electromagnetism until the late 1950s. Well, after Mister Maxwell. Now what happened is we thought electromagnetism was that thing with the electronization electric magnetic field components that we just saw. If you put a wire coming out of this plane of the screen and you insulate it where it says solenoid, can we just isolate that we can see it? Yeah. Okay. Now you have this crazy thing, which is like you have a cathode ray tube at a, let's imagine, and you shoot it through a double slit, and you want to know whether or not there's current flowing in this insulated thing that you can't see. Now, you think that the insulation is going to keep you from being able to tell whether there's current flowing. It turns out that the interference pattern changes whether there's current, even though there's no e and b fields outside of that insulated structure. And that proves that it cannot be the electromagnetic field strengthen that actually determines electromagnetic phenomena. What's really going on? Can we call up the electromagnetic four potential?So, one of the things is, if you want to, if you want to hang with the cool kids on any of this stuff, you don't try to map the electromagnetic fields, because it's the electromagnetic for potential that's got it going on. Let's look at that thing that looks cool. I'm looking for something that looks like, like a equals and then four components. Well, hit that thing, what you just had. That's good. That a, where you see partial derivative of a that thing is called the gage potential. And the gage potential, the gage potential is really where the electromagnetism is happening. This thing over here on the right, the Faraday tensor, is a consequence of. Of the real star of the show. A is the thing that matters. And we thought that a was a convenience product that constructed the electromagnetic field strength until the late 1950s. I think one of these guys who developed this, his name is Jacir Aronoff, who's at Chapman University. I think he's still alive. So, in other words, we fooled ourselves into thinking we understood electromagnetism until the late 1950s, which is one of the reasons that you listen to your heterodox colleagues as opposed to making fun of them mercilessly, because you're not nearly as smart as you think you are.Now, most of the time, what Neil says is, oh, yes, one in 10,000 heterodox people have a point. And Neil bets on the 9999 who don't. And so he doesn't listen. This thing here is a proof that you can find elementary omissions very late in the game that change everything. And everybody who pretends that peer review works and that we've known this since antiquity, all this stuff, they need to understand the exceptions we've already found. If Terence wants to do good, he would take that a with the new at the beginning, and he would say, okay, electromagnetism isn't about the electric and magnetization fields. It's about four of these suckers rather than six of those.On a simple level, how would you describe electricity?Well, I wouldn't know how to do not allowed.I mean, and them saying that the cosmological constant is zero, which means.Do you know what a Jim Gates is?No Jim Gates.Can you explain what the cosmological constant means?Can we bring up the Einstein field equation with cosmological constant?Is that they.The dark energy that's that dark.The quantum field that they. Not the quantum field. The. What do they call it? The vacuum.All right.Is that the vacuum?Yeah, let's pull that one. No, no. Yeah, I like that one. Okay, so that arm, you knew, is the Ricci curvature. That is a sub sort of a sub packaging of the full curvature. So you throw away a piece, like fileting it, and you throw away the.Vial curvature plus a bivector.Well, these are symmetric two tensors. Sometimes people call bivector. I find that terminology confusing, but you're in the right neighborhood. That lambda is what's called the cosmological constant. And there's a raging controversy as to whether that thing is a number or whether that thing is like the temperature, which might vary subtly. And this was this thing that. Where Einstein supposedly said his greatest blunder was to put this in, he then found that you need this because Hubble shows that the universe is expanding. And then, very recently, in the end of the millennium, they said, not only is it expanding, but it's expanding at an accelerating rate. And that's when this whole dark energy thing really took shape. That thing. And where was I going with this? Oh, yeah. Jim Gates, who's probably the finest african american physicist we have. Brilliant, brilliant guy at the University of Maryland, College park. He's a string theorist, so he and I are naturally like Montagues and Capulets, but he's a lovely guy. Very, very brilliant. He says, look, we need supersymmetry, because that thing should blow up, and it's almost zero. And the only way that it's almost zero is because the bosons and the fermions, if supersymmetry is true, have to be balanced, right?So imagine that you had two gods pushing on a door, and they're of exactly equal strength. The door doesn't move practically at all, not because they're not powerful, but because they're perfectly balanced, like, unnaturally balanced.And so what happens when an irresistible force hits an immovable.Well, but these are two irresistible forces pushing in different directions and creating the immovable object between them to carry through the analogy. So that thing has to do with a balancing between two incredibly powerful but opposite structures. And I think that you're negating the idea very often that you can have perfectly balanced things through fine tuning issues. Now, one of the fine tuning issues that we don't talk about, we usually talk about them in physics, but the most famous one should be the one in biology, which is, before we had DNA, there was a guy named Erwin Chargaff. And he gave Watson and crick the worst peer review in human history. He said that these are and Jay Bhattachary, I was just with Jay Bhattacharya. In Italy, you have this guy who has a PhD in economics, and he's a doctor and he's a professor, and he becomes a fringe epidemiologist overnight because some bureaucrat who was probably in control of the bioweapons portfolio, you know, because we signed these two treaties during the 1970s, the Geneva Convention and the Bioweapons convention, he and Francis Collins suddenly convert a respected colleague into a fringe epidemiologist. It's like, no, we're gonna have a mutiny, and the mutiny is gonna be based here because this is a place that you'd invite Tony Fauci and Jay Bhattacharya.Oh, for sure.Yeah, we can do any of that.I bring garlic.We could have Michio Kaku crosses on the wall. Let's have Michio Kaku and Brian Green. Let's have a discussion about string theory. Let's fundamentally discuss neoclassical economics. Shall we discuss whether or not random mutation is the true engine of neo Darwinism? Is that reasonable? Or do some of these crazy people who say, I don't know what it is, but random mutation isn't powerful enough to build proteins because stability is too difficult. The sad fact, Joe, is that you built something that has some credibility. And even though you think of it as, I just like having conversations with people, and a lot of them are fighters, and I'm just a meatball. We don't have any other place. We can't go to the National Academy of Science. It's too politicized. We can't go to Harvard. You saw what just happened with Claudine Gay, who's still a professor. We've lost everything. And podcasts as dippy and shitty and as variable in quality as they are, Jerry, very much included, is this is all that's left. And my claim is that I'll challenge Neil. I actually think that this is a better place to do review because I'm on the hook.And by the way, some of the shit that I've said is probably wrong.The thing that pisses everybody off is the fact that I have the models behind what I'm talking about. When I talk about when we describe the electric field or the plasmic field, I've got models that define every aspect of that motion, and I'm waiting for it to be reviewed.I will shorten you.I would. I would love that. I would love that.I'll take some of your money.I would love that. I would, I would, I would love that.But I'll also try to help make them better.But it's having the proof. And then, mind you, like Jamie, if you pull up the.But Terence, you know what he's saying about, like, not being an expert in teaching and then coming from the outside and that. It's insulting. It's like, yeah, it's insulting. It's a bad way to approach a concept, because the people that have been studying these concepts for so long, instantaneously are told that they don't know, but, you know, and that's offensive to people that are actual experts in a thing. I think the same ideas could be portrayed in a way that does not do that.They have to learn that nomenclature.It's just, you're so much smarter than most of the people you're talking to. That's what the problem is.And this is one of the failures of Joe's bullshit detector. In other words, you believe what you're saying. And you're obviously very, very smart, and you obviously have a huge amount of things that you've been introduced to. Like how many other people bring up Herman Grossman and geometric algebra and Clifford algebra. I think I'm probably the only other one in the history of this program to do that.When I saw you mentioned Clifford algebra, I was like, ok, there's a commonality right now.Sean Carroll for sure knows what a Clifford algebra. I'm not sure whether Neil degrasse Tyson does. Brian Greene certainly does. But in general, this stuff doesn't get introduced in places like this. And then, and you'll watch this in yourself. I'll try to put a circuit in your mind so you'll know exactly the point where you start pissing my community off. Can we bring up the cruel tutelage of Pai Mei?What's that?I love chick flicks, and I think the ultimate chick flick.Joe, it sounds like my ex wife.I've seen you right now with your socks on.Let's go. Let's. Let's go earlier than this.Is that from kill Bill?Yeah.Oh, okay.I can't show this.That's why we can't. Yeah, you gotta be more specific.Show. The bride goes up to the top of these stairs, okay. And Peime asks her, what do you know? And she says something like, I am acquainted with such and such so and so, and I am more than proficient in the fine art of japanese, whatever. And Pai Mei completely kicks her ass because she doesn't understand where she is. And my claim is, is that you need your ass kicked, and you need to apprentice to some of us who know more than you. And believe me, let me just tell you this. I've had my ass kicked, and I will get my ass kicked more because you need some kind of humility. You're coming across wrong, by the way. Never pick a fight with Jamie Foxx. Holy shit. Is that guy good at everything?I learned that the hard way.Jimmy, if you're out there, I totally love you. And what you did in Ray is just unbelievable.He does in every move.He's just. He's so damn good.Yeah. He's an insanely talented person.He's an insanely talented person.He's one of the most intelligent people I've met. I was sitting on the set of Ali with him, and I'm playing chess with him, and I'm playing a serious game of chess. He's having a conversation with two other people while he's playing chess with me as if it's nothing. As if it's nothing. Yeah. And I play chess well. So for I was. I've never been more impressed with somebody who can compartmentalize. And he's an organizational genius.He's whatever he is. He is. But you know what? I had my guy. My guy was named Noam Elkes. I don't know if Noam Elkey. Never heard of no Milkey Nomelke's. I entered Harvard at 19 with a master's degree. Noam was 18. He didn't have a master's degree. So we were sort of, in a weird way, neck and neck and everything that I thought I was good at, nome was better. Noam, I played a little piano. Gnome could compose anything. I mean, this guy's just, like, super genius, beyond genius, right? And he was, he wasn't a bad guy at all, but he was so powerful in his mind that, like, he composed, I think, an eleven by eleven crossword with no black squares, stuff that just can't be done. And I thought, geez, there's just no point in competing with gnome alkes. And one Christmas party, the professor named Raoul bott heard me trying to play boogie woogie piano. And Noam sat down, and like Raoul said, why don't you play us some boogie woogie? And Noam started playing what he thought was boogie woogie, but it was like Rachmaninoff. And Raoul would say, no, no, no, and Noam would go into Chopin, and then he'd go into Liszt.He was playing ever more brilliant things, and finally his brain just blew because he couldn't think through boogie woogie. But Noam then became the youngest professor in the history of Harvard University. I realized that I had accidentally entered in a year in which a gnome elkies was present. And by having my ass kicked repeatedly by this guy, I had to ask myself the question, well, what am I doing on this planet? What do I have to contribute? And all the things I see a Jamie Foxx doing, he's not trying to do anything like this, right? There's a creative spark and a spirit in you that I really see and appreciate. It comes from an older era, and we don't have people like you in the academy anywhere. We used to have lots of these polymaths connect fields. And right now, what we've got is a specialization epidemic. And as far as I can tell, what you need is some discipline. And you need discipline from coming into contact with people who know a lot more than you, who can educate you as to what, we already understand how to communicate those things and not just shut them down.And the epidemic we have is assassins. We have an assassin epidemic because the midwits in the system, all they do is see things in terms of, like, Dunning Kruger. Dunning Kruger. Dunning Kruger. The funny part about it is that that's the midwits endpoint, is that they see heterodox thinkers and they can't figure out how to place them. And so they just say, if I can find one error, I can reject everything. And you keep triggering that, and that's.Why you are one times one. But that's why I keep saying the one times one is more of not a metaphor.To us, it is life and death. You try to sneak one times one through airport security, it's like. It's just the Glock 19.I understand that, but it was really to gain the attention.They never do it to gain the attention.You didn't know, and now you know.Well, okay, there's one more that's going to keep us from ever getting you through this thing. Can we pull up my page again?And we're gonna wrap it up with this one.Yeah. I wanted. Well, I want to do this. It'd be a little bit.We didn't even. But we didn't even.Terrence.Terrence, we're so far down the road.This is four and a half hours.Okay. I want you to take a look at the chemical engineering PhD, because if we don't do that, I can't actually help you.Oh, that right there. Let me talk to. Let me explain that. Yeah, here. I took over to. What was the name of the university? South Carolina University. I was working with Apollo diamonds. We were growing diamonds, and I had developed a way in which to grow diamonds larger than the two carat diamonds. I went over to South Carolina University, and I talked to them about introducing the diamond process, you know, into their university. They were going to give me an honorary degree.Okay.Now I'm thinking they're giving me an honorary degree in chemical engineering because of what I'm doing, and it's just an honorary degree in humanities that they gave me. And so I went on the show, and I was like, yeah, well, I got the. I got an honorary degree from them. But that ended up coming across as if I got an honorary degree in chemical engineering, which I don't have. An honorary degree in chemical engineering.Assume you did. An honorary degree is worthless. It's like, would you take, if your. If your child needed brain surgery, would you go to doctor Dre.No.Okay, Aaron, I want you to hold this. As a guy who had. Who was 19 with a master's degree, Harvard University. And I got into a fight and took me seven years to get that away from it, from them. And they would have been happy to bury me without it. Okay? That is blood, sweat, and tears. And the work that I actually started doing ended up in somebody else's name because Harvard University credited with them, with it.That's the PhD person.When you screw around with a PhD like this, Claudine gay. This woman needs to be fired. Okay? Harvard University needs to go back to the business of kicking ass and taking names and being the place that is the shining city on the hill. Enough with the antisemitism. Enough with the woke, enough with the DEI. Don't ever let me catch you talking about Jim Crow mathematics. You're getting absolutely treated seriously for the serious stuff that you've done. You're getting treated properly for the wrong stuff. That thing about the PhD, it's basically fraud. What I'm saying to you is, I don't give a shit. Merit is merit. If I can catch you in a fraud, if I can catch you in a lie, I can catch you in an error. I don't care. My question is, what did you do? What was the cool stuff you did do? I'm not an assassin. I don't care if you, in part, exaggerated your achievements. I know how. What it feels like to be shat on. I know that you have no ability to fight what's being said to you from on high. Okay. What I'm saying is, the only thing that matters is what you contribute in the end.And imagine that there was. Was fraud. Imagine that there were lies. Imagine that there were errors. And imagine that the linchpin turns out to be the next level drone that defines everything, because, accidentally, there are six degrees of freedom and there's six dimensions in the semi direct product of so three with r three. Whatever. It doesn't matter. It's that cool. Gregor Mendel probably faked his peapod experiments, and there's a guy named David E. Kaplan at Johns Hopkins University who said to me something so beautiful, I can't reproduce it. He said, physics is based on everything. It's the backstabbing. It's the frauds. It's the geniuses. It's the craftsmen and the workmen who get the job done, the experimentalists who toil on papers with a thousand people. And this community of all of these people have come together to produce something which is something close to the source code of the universe. And if you're interested in that pursuit and you want to get rid of some of the baby fat and some of the bullshit, I'm happy to help. There's a lot of work to do. It. It happens that I had done a lot of the work over my life so I didn't have to put an infinite amount of energy into this.But what happened is that you created a mass delusion, and it was a mass delusion in part because we were not aware of what mass delusions actually are. They start with a nub of truth. They start with creative sparks of genius. So we're on the lookout for people who are just frauds, who have nothing that they actually can contribute. And what we don't realize is that you have these things about Kayfabe, which are these melanges of reality and fakery, right? And they're interwoven. What you've produced is something that is part bullshit it and part real contribution. And we don't have a system to pull it apart, and we don't have any experience for how to sense when that's what's going on.But they consider the bullshit to be the one times one equaling two. And the 97 patents, the super symmetry.It'S not the 97 patents. It's not the supersymmetry. It's simply the residue, the reduction of. When we get rid of all the stuff that wasn't supposed to be here. Here. Because you're a self taught polymath, you're obviously incredibly intelligent. You're obviously not taught by the system, and you can't do that work all on your own.No.So you got to come in and you got to find somebody who's not looking to kill you.And that's been the entire dance. What I've tried to do is introduce a new set of tools to the scientific and mathematical community so that they can advance past the platonic solids. The platonic solids I still see in the two or three dimensional position. And since we are living in hyperspace and hyperbolic reality, then we need to have tools that define that hyperbolic space so we don't have to go through Lorenzo transformations and all of these unnecessary steps in order to get to defining curved space.I think that the real story, Terrence, is going to be whether you can stop teaching long enough to accept some help.I'm here to accept the help, and.I'm here to learn from you. Because I'll tell you something. The linchpin is a good example of something which I didn't know. And to the extent that I did know it, I threw it away. And I think it's a great idea. And I think that the art, and I think that some of the higher dimensional stuff, and I think that a lot of this stuff has a kind of beauty, that if John Horton Conway were still alive and hadn't been killed by Covid, I'd know where to send you. There's a guy, you know, there are sphere packing people. There are combinatorists. There are all sorts of people who play with stuff in this realm. But the one thing that you've got to stop doing is that when you get on a program that has millions of people, you can't create one more mass delusion. I've got a fauci. Mass delusion. I've got a string theory mass delusion. I've got a Biden. This fine mass delusion. I've got a Trump is not a problem. Mass delusion. All I have, morning, noon, and night, is mass delusion on mass delusion. But people don't understand that. The reason that these mass delusions get started is that there's enough of truth in them.QAnon is not, can't be total bullshit, because it's got some core in it. That's right. And some craziness. If you think about dianetics and Scientology, the first thing that they teach about is the reactive mind. That's not a terrible theory. And then before you know it, it's xenu and volcanoes. Right. So what's going on is that people are not aware of how kayfabe works. Right. Wrestling is one of the most dangerous, demanding sports of a certain kind. Now, it happens to be theatrical and pre programmed, but if you've ever dealt with anybody like the wrestling community, suffers a death rate unlike any other sport in the world. What you have to understand is that kayfabe, and I highly recommend you look at my essay from 2011, is about what happens when fantasy and reality intermingle. And that's what you did on the last time that you were here. And I can talk to you about the fantasy. I can talk to you about the fraud and the lies. But I'm also going to talk to you about the contributions, the genius and the insight. And what I want the world to learn is you're getting sucked into mass delusions that you're not properly imagining.There's almost always a core of truth and reality that the mainstream won't acknowledge. And then there's almost always a bullshit payload that gets leavened in because in some sense, the mainstream is our official cult and then all of the rest of us produce these other cults. And in my situation, I've gone 40 years and I haven't had a really deep conversation about GU geometric unity with my own community. Where you are is that you're in a world in which the number of people who are both competent and honest and ethical enough to have the conversation with you has dwindling to fewer than ten. It's been a pleasure and an honor to appear with you. Thanks for being a decent guy. I know that not all of this has been welcomed.This has all been welcomed. Any truth. And like I said, I take you up on examining and exploring these into the areas because like I said, these are tools. I just want to offer a new set of tools, tools to that community so that they can now advance past the points where we are.Try not offering, because the first thing you need to do, the first thing you need to do is not necessarily be a student. It's not a higher versus lower, but just recognize that you're bringing gifts and you're bringing problems. And it's very expensive to help you, but it doesn't mean it's impossible. And one of the great things about this program is that if there is anybody out there, there, they can hear it. Now, I'll be honest with you. I've been on this program maybe six times before. I am often astounded that I can reach all of planet Earth and there isn't a single soul who can hear me. And I think that one of the things you're going to have to reckon with is you're saying certain things and you may get hundreds and hundreds or thousands of responses and there won't be a single meaningful response among them. And I don't know what to do about that. That. But stay off Twitter. I did. I, yeah, I. I did my best to give you whatever response I could.All I really want is if you saw some benefit in the things that I've displayed and showed, shared with you.I want them in my house.Then let's have a conversation. I've got, I've got it set for you.We got, we're all connected now. Thank you very much, gentlemen. It was a lot of fun.Thank you, guys.Very interesting, very informative. Thank you, Jamie.Thank you, Jamie, very, very much.All right. Bye, everybody.Thank you.

always pulling in from the inside. It's always trying to tighten the density.

And you assume this energy exists in the flower of life. Why?

Because that's where you have an incredible storehouse of things between your ears that you know to associate with. And your brain is like, I mean, in part, it's like if you think about the totality of your brain, it's like a Ferrari engine in a Volkswagen. The Volkswagen chassis is not capable of supporting something else that you're doing really well. And so what you're constantly doing, as far as I can tell.So the chassis being education, formal education.It's not just that. I mean, it's in part, people who see many connections are often bad at cleaning up their own stuff. And people who don't see connections are often very rigorous, and they don't do shit for their entire. Right.See, that's why I like, I love the geometry, because the geometry demonstrates, even though I've been autodidactic and have learned these things on my own, the geometry is its own proof. Like, even in showing that these become dodec, that these create an icosahedron. Let, if you move those just for.A second, Eric, you pulled this up, though. Before we get any further away from that, explain this, please. Electromagnetic tension.What? You see, that FDe super Mu Nu is an anti symmetric four x four matrix. That is, there are only six independent components, because if you flip that matrix from the northeast, from the northwest to the southeast, as the line, which you flip over with the zeros, the things above the zeros determine the things below. So there are six independent entries in the top triangle. Now, the top three are the electric components in a cartesian coordinate system of the, of the tensor, and the b fields are the magnetic. Okay, Terence could say something closer to what we understand reality to be. He could, for example, hold up a cube and say, you know, the six faces of the cube remind me of the six independent entries in the electromagnetic field strength. And then the idea is there's a duality, and the duality relates the electric field to the magnetic field. And then you might invent something called olive Monton electromagnetic duality. Right? So in other words, if I took the top three, if I hold the cube up like this, and I put electric above and magnetic below. And then I did a transformation that took top faces to bottom faces.He would be doing something that might bring him to recent research on electromagnetic duality. But instead, what's happening is that the spheres are reminding him of waves, like wave fronts, that are expanding spherically. And he's got super cool geometry that the reason that this is so cool is that we haven't seen much of it. It's not saying that it doesn't exist. I'm not saying he's the inventor.Well, I am the inventor because I own the patents.Okay? But you can find out that there's prior art later. Look, everybody. Everybody's been hurt.I love to see that.Okay.Like I said, though, I think you're doing.Terrence, I have no desire to take this way. So far as I know, you're the first person to do this. Okay. Now, with that said, you're taking something where he's saying real stuff about geometrical understanding based on a spiritual undertaking. And it used to be that spirituality and science were hand in hand. That's what I was trying to say about the Kerala school that figured out almost got calculus coming out of religious verse. Like, stuff that rhymed. It's crazy. Terence is coming from an older perspective, where he's drawing tons of inspiration from all these different sources. I can track it, but, like, good luck finding people who can track this, because the number of people who can do this is very, very small.But that's the problem. Okay, go ahead.Agreed. Now, then, every time he steps on a landmine, my colleagues just start laughing. And that makes me crazy, because they could help him figure out what actually he is trying to say. So, if we go back to his.This electromagnetic tensor, how does this apply to these patterns in the void in.Between these patterns, that thing we did not understand until the mid 1970s. Remember, I tried to tell you to get Jim Simons on this podcast, and then he just died. Jim SimOns and CN Yang figured out, and this is going to figure into what Terrence is saying, that everything, all forces are curvature. It's not just gravity, which we've known has been curvature since 1915, actually 1913 for Einstein, Grossman. It's actually the case that electromagnetism, the weak force and the strong force, are a different form of curvature, which might be called erasmanian curvature, or fiber bundle curvature, which is not necessarily romanian intrinsic curvature. This object encodes. The curvature encodes electromagnetism as the components of curvature to your point about nothing is a straight line.But that's. This is where I have issues you're talking about. This is in cartesian space. And in cartesian space, curvature is not allowed. There's no curvature that's allowed in cartesian space.That's wrong.Really?Yeah, because what you have, and by the way, this is super subtle thing, we've only really known this for 50 years. Thereabouts. There is, this is a weird, mysterious circle that none of us can see at every point in space and time that we can't derive from space. You can have space time and something else. Put a circle at every point that is obscured from us, and that thing has a curvature, even if space and time is flat. So we call the idealization of flat spacetime. In Kovsky space, you can slap a curvature tensor of a circle on top of it, generate this, and it wasn't until. And this is mind blowing. Can we get the Aronoff Bohm effect up here?See, but that's where my biggest issue is. Why go through all of those steps to define curved space with flat plane matrix when you have the definition of it right in front of you? That's why, when you get a chance, I'd love for you to lay these out so you can see. It predicts every distribution, every wave form. There's nothing that this doesn't.I want you to think about. You ever play blackjack?I've never been good at blackjack.Okay, well, that's never been good, because.You'Re sitting there.17, and you're sitting there on 19, and you say, hit me. And all I hear is, hit me on 19 and you keep going over.Okay?All right. Now this thing here is a proof. This is a gift for you. This says, we did not understand classical electromagnetism until the late 1950s. Well, after Mister Maxwell. Now what happened is we thought electromagnetism was that thing with the electronization electric magnetic field components that we just saw. If you put a wire coming out of this plane of the screen and you insulate it where it says solenoid, can we just isolate that we can see it? Yeah. Okay. Now you have this crazy thing, which is like you have a cathode ray tube at a, let's imagine, and you shoot it through a double slit, and you want to know whether or not there's current flowing in this insulated thing that you can't see. Now, you think that the insulation is going to keep you from being able to tell whether there's current flowing. It turns out that the interference pattern changes whether there's current, even though there's no e and b fields outside of that insulated structure. And that proves that it cannot be the electromagnetic field strengthen that actually determines electromagnetic phenomena. What's really going on? Can we call up the electromagnetic four potential?So, one of the things is, if you want to, if you want to hang with the cool kids on any of this stuff, you don't try to map the electromagnetic fields, because it's the electromagnetic for potential that's got it going on. Let's look at that thing that looks cool. I'm looking for something that looks like, like a equals and then four components. Well, hit that thing, what you just had. That's good. That a, where you see partial derivative of a that thing is called the gage potential. And the gage potential, the gage potential is really where the electromagnetism is happening. This thing over here on the right, the Faraday tensor, is a consequence of. Of the real star of the show. A is the thing that matters. And we thought that a was a convenience product that constructed the electromagnetic field strength until the late 1950s. I think one of these guys who developed this, his name is Jacir Aronoff, who's at Chapman University. I think he's still alive. So, in other words, we fooled ourselves into thinking we understood electromagnetism until the late 1950s, which is one of the reasons that you listen to your heterodox colleagues as opposed to making fun of them mercilessly, because you're not nearly as smart as you think you are.Now, most of the time, what Neil says is, oh, yes, one in 10,000 heterodox people have a point. And Neil bets on the 9999 who don't. And so he doesn't listen. This thing here is a proof that you can find elementary omissions very late in the game that change everything. And everybody who pretends that peer review works and that we've known this since antiquity, all this stuff, they need to understand the exceptions we've already found. If Terence wants to do good, he would take that a with the new at the beginning, and he would say, okay, electromagnetism isn't about the electric and magnetization fields. It's about four of these suckers rather than six of those.On a simple level, how would you describe electricity?Well, I wouldn't know how to do not allowed.I mean, and them saying that the cosmological constant is zero, which means.Do you know what a Jim Gates is?No Jim Gates.Can you explain what the cosmological constant means?Can we bring up the Einstein field equation with cosmological constant?Is that they.The dark energy that's that dark.The quantum field that they. Not the quantum field. The. What do they call it? The vacuum.All right.Is that the vacuum?Yeah, let's pull that one. No, no. Yeah, I like that one. Okay, so that arm, you knew, is the Ricci curvature. That is a sub sort of a sub packaging of the full curvature. So you throw away a piece, like fileting it, and you throw away the.Vial curvature plus a bivector.Well, these are symmetric two tensors. Sometimes people call bivector. I find that terminology confusing, but you're in the right neighborhood. That lambda is what's called the cosmological constant. And there's a raging controversy as to whether that thing is a number or whether that thing is like the temperature, which might vary subtly. And this was this thing that. Where Einstein supposedly said his greatest blunder was to put this in, he then found that you need this because Hubble shows that the universe is expanding. And then, very recently, in the end of the millennium, they said, not only is it expanding, but it's expanding at an accelerating rate. And that's when this whole dark energy thing really took shape. That thing. And where was I going with this? Oh, yeah. Jim Gates, who's probably the finest african american physicist we have. Brilliant, brilliant guy at the University of Maryland, College park. He's a string theorist, so he and I are naturally like Montagues and Capulets, but he's a lovely guy. Very, very brilliant. He says, look, we need supersymmetry, because that thing should blow up, and it's almost zero. And the only way that it's almost zero is because the bosons and the fermions, if supersymmetry is true, have to be balanced, right?So imagine that you had two gods pushing on a door, and they're of exactly equal strength. The door doesn't move practically at all, not because they're not powerful, but because they're perfectly balanced, like, unnaturally balanced.And so what happens when an irresistible force hits an immovable.Well, but these are two irresistible forces pushing in different directions and creating the immovable object between them to carry through the analogy. So that thing has to do with a balancing between two incredibly powerful but opposite structures. And I think that you're negating the idea very often that you can have perfectly balanced things through fine tuning issues. Now, one of the fine tuning issues that we don't talk about, we usually talk about them in physics, but the most famous one should be the one in biology, which is, before we had DNA, there was a guy named Erwin Chargaff. And he gave Watson and crick the worst peer review in human history. He said that these are and Jay Bhattachary, I was just with Jay Bhattacharya. In Italy, you have this guy who has a PhD in economics, and he's a doctor and he's a professor, and he becomes a fringe epidemiologist overnight because some bureaucrat who was probably in control of the bioweapons portfolio, you know, because we signed these two treaties during the 1970s, the Geneva Convention and the Bioweapons convention, he and Francis Collins suddenly convert a respected colleague into a fringe epidemiologist. It's like, no, we're gonna have a mutiny, and the mutiny is gonna be based here because this is a place that you'd invite Tony Fauci and Jay Bhattacharya.Oh, for sure.Yeah, we can do any of that.I bring garlic.We could have Michio Kaku crosses on the wall. Let's have Michio Kaku and Brian Green. Let's have a discussion about string theory. Let's fundamentally discuss neoclassical economics. Shall we discuss whether or not random mutation is the true engine of neo Darwinism? Is that reasonable? Or do some of these crazy people who say, I don't know what it is, but random mutation isn't powerful enough to build proteins because stability is too difficult. The sad fact, Joe, is that you built something that has some credibility. And even though you think of it as, I just like having conversations with people, and a lot of them are fighters, and I'm just a meatball. We don't have any other place. We can't go to the National Academy of Science. It's too politicized. We can't go to Harvard. You saw what just happened with Claudine Gay, who's still a professor. We've lost everything. And podcasts as dippy and shitty and as variable in quality as they are, Jerry, very much included, is this is all that's left. And my claim is that I'll challenge Neil. I actually think that this is a better place to do review because I'm on the hook.And by the way, some of the shit that I've said is probably wrong.The thing that pisses everybody off is the fact that I have the models behind what I'm talking about. When I talk about when we describe the electric field or the plasmic field, I've got models that define every aspect of that motion, and I'm waiting for it to be reviewed.I will shorten you.I would. I would love that. I would love that.I'll take some of your money.I would love that. I would, I would, I would love that.But I'll also try to help make them better.But it's having the proof. And then, mind you, like Jamie, if you pull up the.But Terence, you know what he's saying about, like, not being an expert in teaching and then coming from the outside and that. It's insulting. It's like, yeah, it's insulting. It's a bad way to approach a concept, because the people that have been studying these concepts for so long, instantaneously are told that they don't know, but, you know, and that's offensive to people that are actual experts in a thing. I think the same ideas could be portrayed in a way that does not do that.They have to learn that nomenclature.It's just, you're so much smarter than most of the people you're talking to. That's what the problem is.And this is one of the failures of Joe's bullshit detector. In other words, you believe what you're saying. And you're obviously very, very smart, and you obviously have a huge amount of things that you've been introduced to. Like how many other people bring up Herman Grossman and geometric algebra and Clifford algebra. I think I'm probably the only other one in the history of this program to do that.When I saw you mentioned Clifford algebra, I was like, ok, there's a commonality right now.Sean Carroll for sure knows what a Clifford algebra. I'm not sure whether Neil degrasse Tyson does. Brian Greene certainly does. But in general, this stuff doesn't get introduced in places like this. And then, and you'll watch this in yourself. I'll try to put a circuit in your mind so you'll know exactly the point where you start pissing my community off. Can we bring up the cruel tutelage of Pai Mei?What's that?I love chick flicks, and I think the ultimate chick flick.Joe, it sounds like my ex wife.I've seen you right now with your socks on.Let's go. Let's. Let's go earlier than this.Is that from kill Bill?Yeah.Oh, okay.I can't show this.That's why we can't. Yeah, you gotta be more specific.Show. The bride goes up to the top of these stairs, okay. And Peime asks her, what do you know? And she says something like, I am acquainted with such and such so and so, and I am more than proficient in the fine art of japanese, whatever. And Pai Mei completely kicks her ass because she doesn't understand where she is. And my claim is, is that you need your ass kicked, and you need to apprentice to some of us who know more than you. And believe me, let me just tell you this. I've had my ass kicked, and I will get my ass kicked more because you need some kind of humility. You're coming across wrong, by the way. Never pick a fight with Jamie Foxx. Holy shit. Is that guy good at everything?I learned that the hard way.Jimmy, if you're out there, I totally love you. And what you did in Ray is just unbelievable.He does in every move.He's just. He's so damn good.Yeah. He's an insanely talented person.He's an insanely talented person.He's one of the most intelligent people I've met. I was sitting on the set of Ali with him, and I'm playing chess with him, and I'm playing a serious game of chess. He's having a conversation with two other people while he's playing chess with me as if it's nothing. As if it's nothing. Yeah. And I play chess well. So for I was. I've never been more impressed with somebody who can compartmentalize. And he's an organizational genius.He's whatever he is. He is. But you know what? I had my guy. My guy was named Noam Elkes. I don't know if Noam Elkey. Never heard of no Milkey Nomelke's. I entered Harvard at 19 with a master's degree. Noam was 18. He didn't have a master's degree. So we were sort of, in a weird way, neck and neck and everything that I thought I was good at, nome was better. Noam, I played a little piano. Gnome could compose anything. I mean, this guy's just, like, super genius, beyond genius, right? And he was, he wasn't a bad guy at all, but he was so powerful in his mind that, like, he composed, I think, an eleven by eleven crossword with no black squares, stuff that just can't be done. And I thought, geez, there's just no point in competing with gnome alkes. And one Christmas party, the professor named Raoul bott heard me trying to play boogie woogie piano. And Noam sat down, and like Raoul said, why don't you play us some boogie woogie? And Noam started playing what he thought was boogie woogie, but it was like Rachmaninoff. And Raoul would say, no, no, no, and Noam would go into Chopin, and then he'd go into Liszt.He was playing ever more brilliant things, and finally his brain just blew because he couldn't think through boogie woogie. But Noam then became the youngest professor in the history of Harvard University. I realized that I had accidentally entered in a year in which a gnome elkies was present. And by having my ass kicked repeatedly by this guy, I had to ask myself the question, well, what am I doing on this planet? What do I have to contribute? And all the things I see a Jamie Foxx doing, he's not trying to do anything like this, right? There's a creative spark and a spirit in you that I really see and appreciate. It comes from an older era, and we don't have people like you in the academy anywhere. We used to have lots of these polymaths connect fields. And right now, what we've got is a specialization epidemic. And as far as I can tell, what you need is some discipline. And you need discipline from coming into contact with people who know a lot more than you, who can educate you as to what, we already understand how to communicate those things and not just shut them down.And the epidemic we have is assassins. We have an assassin epidemic because the midwits in the system, all they do is see things in terms of, like, Dunning Kruger. Dunning Kruger. Dunning Kruger. The funny part about it is that that's the midwits endpoint, is that they see heterodox thinkers and they can't figure out how to place them. And so they just say, if I can find one error, I can reject everything. And you keep triggering that, and that's.Why you are one times one. But that's why I keep saying the one times one is more of not a metaphor.To us, it is life and death. You try to sneak one times one through airport security, it's like. It's just the Glock 19.I understand that, but it was really to gain the attention.They never do it to gain the attention.You didn't know, and now you know.Well, okay, there's one more that's going to keep us from ever getting you through this thing. Can we pull up my page again?And we're gonna wrap it up with this one.Yeah. I wanted. Well, I want to do this. It'd be a little bit.We didn't even. But we didn't even.Terrence.Terrence, we're so far down the road.This is four and a half hours.Okay. I want you to take a look at the chemical engineering PhD, because if we don't do that, I can't actually help you.Oh, that right there. Let me talk to. Let me explain that. Yeah, here. I took over to. What was the name of the university? South Carolina University. I was working with Apollo diamonds. We were growing diamonds, and I had developed a way in which to grow diamonds larger than the two carat diamonds. I went over to South Carolina University, and I talked to them about introducing the diamond process, you know, into their university. They were going to give me an honorary degree.Okay.Now I'm thinking they're giving me an honorary degree in chemical engineering because of what I'm doing, and it's just an honorary degree in humanities that they gave me. And so I went on the show, and I was like, yeah, well, I got the. I got an honorary degree from them. But that ended up coming across as if I got an honorary degree in chemical engineering, which I don't have. An honorary degree in chemical engineering.Assume you did. An honorary degree is worthless. It's like, would you take, if your. If your child needed brain surgery, would you go to doctor Dre.No.Okay, Aaron, I want you to hold this. As a guy who had. Who was 19 with a master's degree, Harvard University. And I got into a fight and took me seven years to get that away from it, from them. And they would have been happy to bury me without it. Okay? That is blood, sweat, and tears. And the work that I actually started doing ended up in somebody else's name because Harvard University credited with them, with it.That's the PhD person.When you screw around with a PhD like this, Claudine gay. This woman needs to be fired. Okay? Harvard University needs to go back to the business of kicking ass and taking names and being the place that is the shining city on the hill. Enough with the antisemitism. Enough with the woke, enough with the DEI. Don't ever let me catch you talking about Jim Crow mathematics. You're getting absolutely treated seriously for the serious stuff that you've done. You're getting treated properly for the wrong stuff. That thing about the PhD, it's basically fraud. What I'm saying to you is, I don't give a shit. Merit is merit. If I can catch you in a fraud, if I can catch you in a lie, I can catch you in an error. I don't care. My question is, what did you do? What was the cool stuff you did do? I'm not an assassin. I don't care if you, in part, exaggerated your achievements. I know how. What it feels like to be shat on. I know that you have no ability to fight what's being said to you from on high. Okay. What I'm saying is, the only thing that matters is what you contribute in the end.And imagine that there was. Was fraud. Imagine that there were lies. Imagine that there were errors. And imagine that the linchpin turns out to be the next level drone that defines everything, because, accidentally, there are six degrees of freedom and there's six dimensions in the semi direct product of so three with r three. Whatever. It doesn't matter. It's that cool. Gregor Mendel probably faked his peapod experiments, and there's a guy named David E. Kaplan at Johns Hopkins University who said to me something so beautiful, I can't reproduce it. He said, physics is based on everything. It's the backstabbing. It's the frauds. It's the geniuses. It's the craftsmen and the workmen who get the job done, the experimentalists who toil on papers with a thousand people. And this community of all of these people have come together to produce something which is something close to the source code of the universe. And if you're interested in that pursuit and you want to get rid of some of the baby fat and some of the bullshit, I'm happy to help. There's a lot of work to do. It. It happens that I had done a lot of the work over my life so I didn't have to put an infinite amount of energy into this.But what happened is that you created a mass delusion, and it was a mass delusion in part because we were not aware of what mass delusions actually are. They start with a nub of truth. They start with creative sparks of genius. So we're on the lookout for people who are just frauds, who have nothing that they actually can contribute. And what we don't realize is that you have these things about Kayfabe, which are these melanges of reality and fakery, right? And they're interwoven. What you've produced is something that is part bullshit it and part real contribution. And we don't have a system to pull it apart, and we don't have any experience for how to sense when that's what's going on.But they consider the bullshit to be the one times one equaling two. And the 97 patents, the super symmetry.It'S not the 97 patents. It's not the supersymmetry. It's simply the residue, the reduction of. When we get rid of all the stuff that wasn't supposed to be here. Here. Because you're a self taught polymath, you're obviously incredibly intelligent. You're obviously not taught by the system, and you can't do that work all on your own.No.So you got to come in and you got to find somebody who's not looking to kill you.And that's been the entire dance. What I've tried to do is introduce a new set of tools to the scientific and mathematical community so that they can advance past the platonic solids. The platonic solids I still see in the two or three dimensional position. And since we are living in hyperspace and hyperbolic reality, then we need to have tools that define that hyperbolic space so we don't have to go through Lorenzo transformations and all of these unnecessary steps in order to get to defining curved space.I think that the real story, Terrence, is going to be whether you can stop teaching long enough to accept some help.I'm here to accept the help, and.I'm here to learn from you. Because I'll tell you something. The linchpin is a good example of something which I didn't know. And to the extent that I did know it, I threw it away. And I think it's a great idea. And I think that the art, and I think that some of the higher dimensional stuff, and I think that a lot of this stuff has a kind of beauty, that if John Horton Conway were still alive and hadn't been killed by Covid, I'd know where to send you. There's a guy, you know, there are sphere packing people. There are combinatorists. There are all sorts of people who play with stuff in this realm. But the one thing that you've got to stop doing is that when you get on a program that has millions of people, you can't create one more mass delusion. I've got a fauci. Mass delusion. I've got a string theory mass delusion. I've got a Biden. This fine mass delusion. I've got a Trump is not a problem. Mass delusion. All I have, morning, noon, and night, is mass delusion on mass delusion. But people don't understand that. The reason that these mass delusions get started is that there's enough of truth in them.QAnon is not, can't be total bullshit, because it's got some core in it. That's right. And some craziness. If you think about dianetics and Scientology, the first thing that they teach about is the reactive mind. That's not a terrible theory. And then before you know it, it's xenu and volcanoes. Right. So what's going on is that people are not aware of how kayfabe works. Right. Wrestling is one of the most dangerous, demanding sports of a certain kind. Now, it happens to be theatrical and pre programmed, but if you've ever dealt with anybody like the wrestling community, suffers a death rate unlike any other sport in the world. What you have to understand is that kayfabe, and I highly recommend you look at my essay from 2011, is about what happens when fantasy and reality intermingle. And that's what you did on the last time that you were here. And I can talk to you about the fantasy. I can talk to you about the fraud and the lies. But I'm also going to talk to you about the contributions, the genius and the insight. And what I want the world to learn is you're getting sucked into mass delusions that you're not properly imagining.There's almost always a core of truth and reality that the mainstream won't acknowledge. And then there's almost always a bullshit payload that gets leavened in because in some sense, the mainstream is our official cult and then all of the rest of us produce these other cults. And in my situation, I've gone 40 years and I haven't had a really deep conversation about GU geometric unity with my own community. Where you are is that you're in a world in which the number of people who are both competent and honest and ethical enough to have the conversation with you has dwindling to fewer than ten. It's been a pleasure and an honor to appear with you. Thanks for being a decent guy. I know that not all of this has been welcomed.This has all been welcomed. Any truth. And like I said, I take you up on examining and exploring these into the areas because like I said, these are tools. I just want to offer a new set of tools, tools to that community so that they can now advance past the points where we are.Try not offering, because the first thing you need to do, the first thing you need to do is not necessarily be a student. It's not a higher versus lower, but just recognize that you're bringing gifts and you're bringing problems. And it's very expensive to help you, but it doesn't mean it's impossible. And one of the great things about this program is that if there is anybody out there, there, they can hear it. Now, I'll be honest with you. I've been on this program maybe six times before. I am often astounded that I can reach all of planet Earth and there isn't a single soul who can hear me. And I think that one of the things you're going to have to reckon with is you're saying certain things and you may get hundreds and hundreds or thousands of responses and there won't be a single meaningful response among them. And I don't know what to do about that. That. But stay off Twitter. I did. I, yeah, I. I did my best to give you whatever response I could.All I really want is if you saw some benefit in the things that I've displayed and showed, shared with you.I want them in my house.Then let's have a conversation. I've got, I've got it set for you.We got, we're all connected now. Thank you very much, gentlemen. It was a lot of fun.Thank you, guys.Very interesting, very informative. Thank you, Jamie.Thank you, Jamie, very, very much.All right. Bye, everybody.Thank you.

you have an incredible storehouse of things between your ears that you know to associate with. And your brain is like, I mean, in part, it's like if you think about the totality of your brain, it's like a Ferrari engine in a Volkswagen. The Volkswagen chassis is not capable of supporting something else that you're doing really well. And so what you're constantly doing, as far as I can tell.

So the chassis being education, formal education.

It's not just that. I mean, it's in part, people who see many connections are often bad at cleaning up their own stuff. And people who don't see connections are often very rigorous, and they don't do shit for their entire. Right.

See, that's why I like, I love the geometry, because the geometry demonstrates, even though I've been autodidactic and have learned these things on my own, the geometry is its own proof. Like, even in showing that these become dodec, that these create an icosahedron. Let, if you move those just for.

A second, Eric, you pulled this up, though. Before we get any further away from that, explain this, please. Electromagnetic tension.

What? You see, that FDe super Mu Nu is an anti symmetric four x four matrix. That is, there are only six independent components, because if you flip that matrix from the northeast, from the northwest to the southeast, as the line, which you flip over with the zeros, the things above the zeros determine the things below. So there are six independent entries in the top triangle. Now, the top three are the electric components in a cartesian coordinate system of the, of the tensor, and the b fields are the magnetic. Okay, Terence could say something closer to what we understand reality to be. He could, for example, hold up a cube and say, you know, the six faces of the cube remind me of the six independent entries in the electromagnetic field strength. And then the idea is there's a duality, and the duality relates the electric field to the magnetic field. And then you might invent something called olive Monton electromagnetic duality. Right? So in other words, if I took the top three, if I hold the cube up like this, and I put electric above and magnetic below. And then I did a transformation that took top faces to bottom faces.

He would be doing something that might bring him to recent research on electromagnetic duality. But instead, what's happening is that the spheres are reminding him of waves, like wave fronts, that are expanding spherically. And he's got super cool geometry that the reason that this is so cool is that we haven't seen much of it. It's not saying that it doesn't exist. I'm not saying he's the inventor.

Well, I am the inventor because I own the patents.

Okay? But you can find out that there's prior art later. Look, everybody. Everybody's been hurt.

I love to see that.

Okay.

Like I said, though, I think you're doing.

Terrence, I have no desire to take this way. So far as I know, you're the first person to do this. Okay. Now, with that said, you're taking something where he's saying real stuff about geometrical understanding based on a spiritual undertaking. And it used to be that spirituality and science were hand in hand. That's what I was trying to say about the Kerala school that figured out almost got calculus coming out of religious verse. Like, stuff that rhymed. It's crazy. Terence is coming from an older perspective, where he's drawing tons of inspiration from all these different sources. I can track it, but, like, good luck finding people who can track this, because the number of people who can do this is very, very small.

But that's the problem. Okay, go ahead.

Agreed. Now, then, every time he steps on a landmine, my colleagues just start laughing. And that makes me crazy, because they could help him figure out what actually he is trying to say. So, if we go back to his.

This electromagnetic tensor, how does this apply to these patterns in the void in.

Between these patterns, that thing we did not understand until the mid 1970s. Remember, I tried to tell you to get Jim Simons on this podcast, and then he just died. Jim SimOns and CN Yang figured out, and this is going to figure into what Terrence is saying, that everything, all forces are curvature. It's not just gravity, which we've known has been curvature since 1915, actually 1913 for Einstein, Grossman. It's actually the case that electromagnetism, the weak force and the strong force, are a different form of curvature, which might be called erasmanian curvature, or fiber bundle curvature, which is not necessarily romanian intrinsic curvature. This object encodes. The curvature encodes electromagnetism as the components of curvature to your point about nothing is a straight line.

But that's. This is where I have issues you're talking about. This is in cartesian space. And in cartesian space, curvature is not allowed. There's no curvature that's allowed in cartesian space.

That's wrong.

Really?

Yeah, because what you have, and by the way, this is super subtle thing, we've only really known this for 50 years. Thereabouts. There is, this is a weird, mysterious circle that none of us can see at every point in space and time that we can't derive from space. You can have space time and something else. Put a circle at every point that is obscured from us, and that thing has a curvature, even if space and time is flat. So we call the idealization of flat spacetime. In Kovsky space, you can slap a curvature tensor of a circle on top of it, generate this, and it wasn't until. And this is mind blowing. Can we get the Aronoff Bohm effect up here?

See, but that's where my biggest issue is. Why go through all of those steps to define curved space with flat plane matrix when you have the definition of it right in front of you? That's why, when you get a chance, I'd love for you to lay these out so you can see. It predicts every distribution, every wave form. There's nothing that this doesn't.

I want you to think about. You ever play blackjack?

I've never been good at blackjack.

Okay, well, that's never been good, because.

You'Re sitting there.

17, and you're sitting there on 19, and you say, hit me. And all I hear is, hit me on 19 and you keep going over.

Okay?

All right. Now this thing here is a proof. This is a gift for you. This says, we did not understand classical electromagnetism until the late 1950s. Well, after Mister Maxwell. Now what happened is we thought electromagnetism was that thing with the electronization electric magnetic field components that we just saw. If you put a wire coming out of this plane of the screen and you insulate it where it says solenoid, can we just isolate that we can see it? Yeah. Okay. Now you have this crazy thing, which is like you have a cathode ray tube at a, let's imagine, and you shoot it through a double slit, and you want to know whether or not there's current flowing in this insulated thing that you can't see. Now, you think that the insulation is going to keep you from being able to tell whether there's current flowing. It turns out that the interference pattern changes whether there's current, even though there's no e and b fields outside of that insulated structure. And that proves that it cannot be the electromagnetic field strengthen that actually determines electromagnetic phenomena. What's really going on? Can we call up the electromagnetic four potential?

So, one of the things is, if you want to, if you want to hang with the cool kids on any of this stuff, you don't try to map the electromagnetic fields, because it's the electromagnetic for potential that's got it going on. Let's look at that thing that looks cool. I'm looking for something that looks like, like a equals and then four components. Well, hit that thing, what you just had. That's good. That a, where you see partial derivative of a that thing is called the gage potential. And the gage potential, the gage potential is really where the electromagnetism is happening. This thing over here on the right, the Faraday tensor, is a consequence of. Of the real star of the show. A is the thing that matters. And we thought that a was a convenience product that constructed the electromagnetic field strength until the late 1950s. I think one of these guys who developed this, his name is Jacir Aronoff, who's at Chapman University. I think he's still alive. So, in other words, we fooled ourselves into thinking we understood electromagnetism until the late 1950s, which is one of the reasons that you listen to your heterodox colleagues as opposed to making fun of them mercilessly, because you're not nearly as smart as you think you are.

Now, most of the time, what Neil says is, oh, yes, one in 10,000 heterodox people have a point. And Neil bets on the 9999 who don't. And so he doesn't listen. This thing here is a proof that you can find elementary omissions very late in the game that change everything. And everybody who pretends that peer review works and that we've known this since antiquity, all this stuff, they need to understand the exceptions we've already found. If Terence wants to do good, he would take that a with the new at the beginning, and he would say, okay, electromagnetism isn't about the electric and magnetization fields. It's about four of these suckers rather than six of those.

On a simple level, how would you describe electricity?

Well, I wouldn't know how to do not allowed.I mean, and them saying that the cosmological constant is zero, which means.Do you know what a Jim Gates is?No Jim Gates.Can you explain what the cosmological constant means?Can we bring up the Einstein field equation with cosmological constant?Is that they.The dark energy that's that dark.The quantum field that they. Not the quantum field. The. What do they call it? The vacuum.All right.Is that the vacuum?Yeah, let's pull that one. No, no. Yeah, I like that one. Okay, so that arm, you knew, is the Ricci curvature. That is a sub sort of a sub packaging of the full curvature. So you throw away a piece, like fileting it, and you throw away the.Vial curvature plus a bivector.Well, these are symmetric two tensors. Sometimes people call bivector. I find that terminology confusing, but you're in the right neighborhood. That lambda is what's called the cosmological constant. And there's a raging controversy as to whether that thing is a number or whether that thing is like the temperature, which might vary subtly. And this was this thing that. Where Einstein supposedly said his greatest blunder was to put this in, he then found that you need this because Hubble shows that the universe is expanding. And then, very recently, in the end of the millennium, they said, not only is it expanding, but it's expanding at an accelerating rate. And that's when this whole dark energy thing really took shape. That thing. And where was I going with this? Oh, yeah. Jim Gates, who's probably the finest african american physicist we have. Brilliant, brilliant guy at the University of Maryland, College park. He's a string theorist, so he and I are naturally like Montagues and Capulets, but he's a lovely guy. Very, very brilliant. He says, look, we need supersymmetry, because that thing should blow up, and it's almost zero. And the only way that it's almost zero is because the bosons and the fermions, if supersymmetry is true, have to be balanced, right?So imagine that you had two gods pushing on a door, and they're of exactly equal strength. The door doesn't move practically at all, not because they're not powerful, but because they're perfectly balanced, like, unnaturally balanced.And so what happens when an irresistible force hits an immovable.Well, but these are two irresistible forces pushing in different directions and creating the immovable object between them to carry through the analogy. So that thing has to do with a balancing between two incredibly powerful but opposite structures. And I think that you're negating the idea very often that you can have perfectly balanced things through fine tuning issues. Now, one of the fine tuning issues that we don't talk about, we usually talk about them in physics, but the most famous one should be the one in biology, which is, before we had DNA, there was a guy named Erwin Chargaff. And he gave Watson and crick the worst peer review in human history. He said that these are and Jay Bhattachary, I was just with Jay Bhattacharya. In Italy, you have this guy who has a PhD in economics, and he's a doctor and he's a professor, and he becomes a fringe epidemiologist overnight because some bureaucrat who was probably in control of the bioweapons portfolio, you know, because we signed these two treaties during the 1970s, the Geneva Convention and the Bioweapons convention, he and Francis Collins suddenly convert a respected colleague into a fringe epidemiologist. It's like, no, we're gonna have a mutiny, and the mutiny is gonna be based here because this is a place that you'd invite Tony Fauci and Jay Bhattacharya.Oh, for sure.Yeah, we can do any of that.I bring garlic.We could have Michio Kaku crosses on the wall. Let's have Michio Kaku and Brian Green. Let's have a discussion about string theory. Let's fundamentally discuss neoclassical economics. Shall we discuss whether or not random mutation is the true engine of neo Darwinism? Is that reasonable? Or do some of these crazy people who say, I don't know what it is, but random mutation isn't powerful enough to build proteins because stability is too difficult. The sad fact, Joe, is that you built something that has some credibility. And even though you think of it as, I just like having conversations with people, and a lot of them are fighters, and I'm just a meatball. We don't have any other place. We can't go to the National Academy of Science. It's too politicized. We can't go to Harvard. You saw what just happened with Claudine Gay, who's still a professor. We've lost everything. And podcasts as dippy and shitty and as variable in quality as they are, Jerry, very much included, is this is all that's left. And my claim is that I'll challenge Neil. I actually think that this is a better place to do review because I'm on the hook.And by the way, some of the shit that I've said is probably wrong.The thing that pisses everybody off is the fact that I have the models behind what I'm talking about. When I talk about when we describe the electric field or the plasmic field, I've got models that define every aspect of that motion, and I'm waiting for it to be reviewed.I will shorten you.I would. I would love that. I would love that.I'll take some of your money.I would love that. I would, I would, I would love that.But I'll also try to help make them better.But it's having the proof. And then, mind you, like Jamie, if you pull up the.But Terence, you know what he's saying about, like, not being an expert in teaching and then coming from the outside and that. It's insulting. It's like, yeah, it's insulting. It's a bad way to approach a concept, because the people that have been studying these concepts for so long, instantaneously are told that they don't know, but, you know, and that's offensive to people that are actual experts in a thing. I think the same ideas could be portrayed in a way that does not do that.They have to learn that nomenclature.It's just, you're so much smarter than most of the people you're talking to. That's what the problem is.And this is one of the failures of Joe's bullshit detector. In other words, you believe what you're saying. And you're obviously very, very smart, and you obviously have a huge amount of things that you've been introduced to. Like how many other people bring up Herman Grossman and geometric algebra and Clifford algebra. I think I'm probably the only other one in the history of this program to do that.When I saw you mentioned Clifford algebra, I was like, ok, there's a commonality right now.Sean Carroll for sure knows what a Clifford algebra. I'm not sure whether Neil degrasse Tyson does. Brian Greene certainly does. But in general, this stuff doesn't get introduced in places like this. And then, and you'll watch this in yourself. I'll try to put a circuit in your mind so you'll know exactly the point where you start pissing my community off. Can we bring up the cruel tutelage of Pai Mei?What's that?I love chick flicks, and I think the ultimate chick flick.Joe, it sounds like my ex wife.I've seen you right now with your socks on.Let's go. Let's. Let's go earlier than this.Is that from kill Bill?Yeah.Oh, okay.I can't show this.That's why we can't. Yeah, you gotta be more specific.Show. The bride goes up to the top of these stairs, okay. And Peime asks her, what do you know? And she says something like, I am acquainted with such and such so and so, and I am more than proficient in the fine art of japanese, whatever. And Pai Mei completely kicks her ass because she doesn't understand where she is. And my claim is, is that you need your ass kicked, and you need to apprentice to some of us who know more than you. And believe me, let me just tell you this. I've had my ass kicked, and I will get my ass kicked more because you need some kind of humility. You're coming across wrong, by the way. Never pick a fight with Jamie Foxx. Holy shit. Is that guy good at everything?I learned that the hard way.Jimmy, if you're out there, I totally love you. And what you did in Ray is just unbelievable.He does in every move.He's just. He's so damn good.Yeah. He's an insanely talented person.He's an insanely talented person.He's one of the most intelligent people I've met. I was sitting on the set of Ali with him, and I'm playing chess with him, and I'm playing a serious game of chess. He's having a conversation with two other people while he's playing chess with me as if it's nothing. As if it's nothing. Yeah. And I play chess well. So for I was. I've never been more impressed with somebody who can compartmentalize. And he's an organizational genius.He's whatever he is. He is. But you know what? I had my guy. My guy was named Noam Elkes. I don't know if Noam Elkey. Never heard of no Milkey Nomelke's. I entered Harvard at 19 with a master's degree. Noam was 18. He didn't have a master's degree. So we were sort of, in a weird way, neck and neck and everything that I thought I was good at, nome was better. Noam, I played a little piano. Gnome could compose anything. I mean, this guy's just, like, super genius, beyond genius, right? And he was, he wasn't a bad guy at all, but he was so powerful in his mind that, like, he composed, I think, an eleven by eleven crossword with no black squares, stuff that just can't be done. And I thought, geez, there's just no point in competing with gnome alkes. And one Christmas party, the professor named Raoul bott heard me trying to play boogie woogie piano. And Noam sat down, and like Raoul said, why don't you play us some boogie woogie? And Noam started playing what he thought was boogie woogie, but it was like Rachmaninoff. And Raoul would say, no, no, no, and Noam would go into Chopin, and then he'd go into Liszt.He was playing ever more brilliant things, and finally his brain just blew because he couldn't think through boogie woogie. But Noam then became the youngest professor in the history of Harvard University. I realized that I had accidentally entered in a year in which a gnome elkies was present. And by having my ass kicked repeatedly by this guy, I had to ask myself the question, well, what am I doing on this planet? What do I have to contribute? And all the things I see a Jamie Foxx doing, he's not trying to do anything like this, right? There's a creative spark and a spirit in you that I really see and appreciate. It comes from an older era, and we don't have people like you in the academy anywhere. We used to have lots of these polymaths connect fields. And right now, what we've got is a specialization epidemic. And as far as I can tell, what you need is some discipline. And you need discipline from coming into contact with people who know a lot more than you, who can educate you as to what, we already understand how to communicate those things and not just shut them down.And the epidemic we have is assassins. We have an assassin epidemic because the midwits in the system, all they do is see things in terms of, like, Dunning Kruger. Dunning Kruger. Dunning Kruger. The funny part about it is that that's the midwits endpoint, is that they see heterodox thinkers and they can't figure out how to place them. And so they just say, if I can find one error, I can reject everything. And you keep triggering that, and that's.Why you are one times one. But that's why I keep saying the one times one is more of not a metaphor.To us, it is life and death. You try to sneak one times one through airport security, it's like. It's just the Glock 19.I understand that, but it was really to gain the attention.They never do it to gain the attention.You didn't know, and now you know.Well, okay, there's one more that's going to keep us from ever getting you through this thing. Can we pull up my page again?And we're gonna wrap it up with this one.Yeah. I wanted. Well, I want to do this. It'd be a little bit.We didn't even. But we didn't even.Terrence.Terrence, we're so far down the road.This is four and a half hours.Okay. I want you to take a look at the chemical engineering PhD, because if we don't do that, I can't actually help you.Oh, that right there. Let me talk to. Let me explain that. Yeah, here. I took over to. What was the name of the university? South Carolina University. I was working with Apollo diamonds. We were growing diamonds, and I had developed a way in which to grow diamonds larger than the two carat diamonds. I went over to South Carolina University, and I talked to them about introducing the diamond process, you know, into their university. They were going to give me an honorary degree.Okay.Now I'm thinking they're giving me an honorary degree in chemical engineering because of what I'm doing, and it's just an honorary degree in humanities that they gave me. And so I went on the show, and I was like, yeah, well, I got the. I got an honorary degree from them. But that ended up coming across as if I got an honorary degree in chemical engineering, which I don't have. An honorary degree in chemical engineering.Assume you did. An honorary degree is worthless. It's like, would you take, if your. If your child needed brain surgery, would you go to doctor Dre.No.Okay, Aaron, I want you to hold this. As a guy who had. Who was 19 with a master's degree, Harvard University. And I got into a fight and took me seven years to get that away from it, from them. And they would have been happy to bury me without it. Okay? That is blood, sweat, and tears. And the work that I actually started doing ended up in somebody else's name because Harvard University credited with them, with it.That's the PhD person.When you screw around with a PhD like this, Claudine gay. This woman needs to be fired. Okay? Harvard University needs to go back to the business of kicking ass and taking names and being the place that is the shining city on the hill. Enough with the antisemitism. Enough with the woke, enough with the DEI. Don't ever let me catch you talking about Jim Crow mathematics. You're getting absolutely treated seriously for the serious stuff that you've done. You're getting treated properly for the wrong stuff. That thing about the PhD, it's basically fraud. What I'm saying to you is, I don't give a shit. Merit is merit. If I can catch you in a fraud, if I can catch you in a lie, I can catch you in an error. I don't care. My question is, what did you do? What was the cool stuff you did do? I'm not an assassin. I don't care if you, in part, exaggerated your achievements. I know how. What it feels like to be shat on. I know that you have no ability to fight what's being said to you from on high. Okay. What I'm saying is, the only thing that matters is what you contribute in the end.And imagine that there was. Was fraud. Imagine that there were lies. Imagine that there were errors. And imagine that the linchpin turns out to be the next level drone that defines everything, because, accidentally, there are six degrees of freedom and there's six dimensions in the semi direct product of so three with r three. Whatever. It doesn't matter. It's that cool. Gregor Mendel probably faked his peapod experiments, and there's a guy named David E. Kaplan at Johns Hopkins University who said to me something so beautiful, I can't reproduce it. He said, physics is based on everything. It's the backstabbing. It's the frauds. It's the geniuses. It's the craftsmen and the workmen who get the job done, the experimentalists who toil on papers with a thousand people. And this community of all of these people have come together to produce something which is something close to the source code of the universe. And if you're interested in that pursuit and you want to get rid of some of the baby fat and some of the bullshit, I'm happy to help. There's a lot of work to do. It. It happens that I had done a lot of the work over my life so I didn't have to put an infinite amount of energy into this.But what happened is that you created a mass delusion, and it was a mass delusion in part because we were not aware of what mass delusions actually are. They start with a nub of truth. They start with creative sparks of genius. So we're on the lookout for people who are just frauds, who have nothing that they actually can contribute. And what we don't realize is that you have these things about Kayfabe, which are these melanges of reality and fakery, right? And they're interwoven. What you've produced is something that is part bullshit it and part real contribution. And we don't have a system to pull it apart, and we don't have any experience for how to sense when that's what's going on.But they consider the bullshit to be the one times one equaling two. And the 97 patents, the super symmetry.It'S not the 97 patents. It's not the supersymmetry. It's simply the residue, the reduction of. When we get rid of all the stuff that wasn't supposed to be here. Here. Because you're a self taught polymath, you're obviously incredibly intelligent. You're obviously not taught by the system, and you can't do that work all on your own.No.So you got to come in and you got to find somebody who's not looking to kill you.And that's been the entire dance. What I've tried to do is introduce a new set of tools to the scientific and mathematical community so that they can advance past the platonic solids. The platonic solids I still see in the two or three dimensional position. And since we are living in hyperspace and hyperbolic reality, then we need to have tools that define that hyperbolic space so we don't have to go through Lorenzo transformations and all of these unnecessary steps in order to get to defining curved space.I think that the real story, Terrence, is going to be whether you can stop teaching long enough to accept some help.I'm here to accept the help, and.I'm here to learn from you. Because I'll tell you something. The linchpin is a good example of something which I didn't know. And to the extent that I did know it, I threw it away. And I think it's a great idea. And I think that the art, and I think that some of the higher dimensional stuff, and I think that a lot of this stuff has a kind of beauty, that if John Horton Conway were still alive and hadn't been killed by Covid, I'd know where to send you. There's a guy, you know, there are sphere packing people. There are combinatorists. There are all sorts of people who play with stuff in this realm. But the one thing that you've got to stop doing is that when you get on a program that has millions of people, you can't create one more mass delusion. I've got a fauci. Mass delusion. I've got a string theory mass delusion. I've got a Biden. This fine mass delusion. I've got a Trump is not a problem. Mass delusion. All I have, morning, noon, and night, is mass delusion on mass delusion. But people don't understand that. The reason that these mass delusions get started is that there's enough of truth in them.QAnon is not, can't be total bullshit, because it's got some core in it. That's right. And some craziness. If you think about dianetics and Scientology, the first thing that they teach about is the reactive mind. That's not a terrible theory. And then before you know it, it's xenu and volcanoes. Right. So what's going on is that people are not aware of how kayfabe works. Right. Wrestling is one of the most dangerous, demanding sports of a certain kind. Now, it happens to be theatrical and pre programmed, but if you've ever dealt with anybody like the wrestling community, suffers a death rate unlike any other sport in the world. What you have to understand is that kayfabe, and I highly recommend you look at my essay from 2011, is about what happens when fantasy and reality intermingle. And that's what you did on the last time that you were here. And I can talk to you about the fantasy. I can talk to you about the fraud and the lies. But I'm also going to talk to you about the contributions, the genius and the insight. And what I want the world to learn is you're getting sucked into mass delusions that you're not properly imagining.There's almost always a core of truth and reality that the mainstream won't acknowledge. And then there's almost always a bullshit payload that gets leavened in because in some sense, the mainstream is our official cult and then all of the rest of us produce these other cults. And in my situation, I've gone 40 years and I haven't had a really deep conversation about GU geometric unity with my own community. Where you are is that you're in a world in which the number of people who are both competent and honest and ethical enough to have the conversation with you has dwindling to fewer than ten. It's been a pleasure and an honor to appear with you. Thanks for being a decent guy. I know that not all of this has been welcomed.This has all been welcomed. Any truth. And like I said, I take you up on examining and exploring these into the areas because like I said, these are tools. I just want to offer a new set of tools, tools to that community so that they can now advance past the points where we are.Try not offering, because the first thing you need to do, the first thing you need to do is not necessarily be a student. It's not a higher versus lower, but just recognize that you're bringing gifts and you're bringing problems. And it's very expensive to help you, but it doesn't mean it's impossible. And one of the great things about this program is that if there is anybody out there, there, they can hear it. Now, I'll be honest with you. I've been on this program maybe six times before. I am often astounded that I can reach all of planet Earth and there isn't a single soul who can hear me. And I think that one of the things you're going to have to reckon with is you're saying certain things and you may get hundreds and hundreds or thousands of responses and there won't be a single meaningful response among them. And I don't know what to do about that. That. But stay off Twitter. I did. I, yeah, I. I did my best to give you whatever response I could.All I really want is if you saw some benefit in the things that I've displayed and showed, shared with you.I want them in my house.Then let's have a conversation. I've got, I've got it set for you.We got, we're all connected now. Thank you very much, gentlemen. It was a lot of fun.Thank you, guys.Very interesting, very informative. Thank you, Jamie.Thank you, Jamie, very, very much.All right. Bye, everybody.Thank you.

not allowed.

I mean, and them saying that the cosmological constant is zero, which means.

Do you know what a Jim Gates is?

No Jim Gates.

Can you explain what the cosmological constant means?

Can we bring up the Einstein field equation with cosmological constant?

Is that they.

The dark energy that's that dark.

The quantum field that they. Not the quantum field. The. What do they call it? The vacuum.

All right.

Is that the vacuum?

Yeah, let's pull that one. No, no. Yeah, I like that one. Okay, so that arm, you knew, is the Ricci curvature. That is a sub sort of a sub packaging of the full curvature. So you throw away a piece, like fileting it, and you throw away the.

Vial curvature plus a bivector.

Well, these are symmetric two tensors. Sometimes people call bivector. I find that terminology confusing, but you're in the right neighborhood. That lambda is what's called the cosmological constant. And there's a raging controversy as to whether that thing is a number or whether that thing is like the temperature, which might vary subtly. And this was this thing that. Where Einstein supposedly said his greatest blunder was to put this in, he then found that you need this because Hubble shows that the universe is expanding. And then, very recently, in the end of the millennium, they said, not only is it expanding, but it's expanding at an accelerating rate. And that's when this whole dark energy thing really took shape. That thing. And where was I going with this? Oh, yeah. Jim Gates, who's probably the finest african american physicist we have. Brilliant, brilliant guy at the University of Maryland, College park. He's a string theorist, so he and I are naturally like Montagues and Capulets, but he's a lovely guy. Very, very brilliant. He says, look, we need supersymmetry, because that thing should blow up, and it's almost zero. And the only way that it's almost zero is because the bosons and the fermions, if supersymmetry is true, have to be balanced, right?

So imagine that you had two gods pushing on a door, and they're of exactly equal strength. The door doesn't move practically at all, not because they're not powerful, but because they're perfectly balanced, like, unnaturally balanced.

And so what happens when an irresistible force hits an immovable.

Well, but these are two irresistible forces pushing in different directions and creating the immovable object between them to carry through the analogy. So that thing has to do with a balancing between two incredibly powerful but opposite structures. And I think that you're negating the idea very often that you can have perfectly balanced things through fine tuning issues. Now, one of the fine tuning issues that we don't talk about, we usually talk about them in physics, but the most famous one should be the one in biology, which is, before we had DNA, there was a guy named Erwin Chargaff. And he gave Watson and crick the worst peer review in human history. He said that these are and Jay Bhattachary, I was just with Jay Bhattacharya. In Italy, you have this guy who has a PhD in economics, and he's a doctor and he's a professor, and he becomes a fringe epidemiologist overnight because some bureaucrat who was probably in control of the bioweapons portfolio, you know, because we signed these two treaties during the 1970s, the Geneva Convention and the Bioweapons convention, he and Francis Collins suddenly convert a respected colleague into a fringe epidemiologist. It's like, no, we're gonna have a mutiny, and the mutiny is gonna be based here because this is a place that you'd invite Tony Fauci and Jay Bhattacharya.Oh, for sure.Yeah, we can do any of that.I bring garlic.We could have Michio Kaku crosses on the wall. Let's have Michio Kaku and Brian Green. Let's have a discussion about string theory. Let's fundamentally discuss neoclassical economics. Shall we discuss whether or not random mutation is the true engine of neo Darwinism? Is that reasonable? Or do some of these crazy people who say, I don't know what it is, but random mutation isn't powerful enough to build proteins because stability is too difficult. The sad fact, Joe, is that you built something that has some credibility. And even though you think of it as, I just like having conversations with people, and a lot of them are fighters, and I'm just a meatball. We don't have any other place. We can't go to the National Academy of Science. It's too politicized. We can't go to Harvard. You saw what just happened with Claudine Gay, who's still a professor. We've lost everything. And podcasts as dippy and shitty and as variable in quality as they are, Jerry, very much included, is this is all that's left. And my claim is that I'll challenge Neil. I actually think that this is a better place to do review because I'm on the hook.And by the way, some of the shit that I've said is probably wrong.The thing that pisses everybody off is the fact that I have the models behind what I'm talking about. When I talk about when we describe the electric field or the plasmic field, I've got models that define every aspect of that motion, and I'm waiting for it to be reviewed.I will shorten you.I would. I would love that. I would love that.I'll take some of your money.I would love that. I would, I would, I would love that.But I'll also try to help make them better.But it's having the proof. And then, mind you, like Jamie, if you pull up the.But Terence, you know what he's saying about, like, not being an expert in teaching and then coming from the outside and that. It's insulting. It's like, yeah, it's insulting. It's a bad way to approach a concept, because the people that have been studying these concepts for so long, instantaneously are told that they don't know, but, you know, and that's offensive to people that are actual experts in a thing. I think the same ideas could be portrayed in a way that does not do that.They have to learn that nomenclature.It's just, you're so much smarter than most of the people you're talking to. That's what the problem is.And this is one of the failures of Joe's bullshit detector. In other words, you believe what you're saying. And you're obviously very, very smart, and you obviously have a huge amount of things that you've been introduced to. Like how many other people bring up Herman Grossman and geometric algebra and Clifford algebra. I think I'm probably the only other one in the history of this program to do that.When I saw you mentioned Clifford algebra, I was like, ok, there's a commonality right now.Sean Carroll for sure knows what a Clifford algebra. I'm not sure whether Neil degrasse Tyson does. Brian Greene certainly does. But in general, this stuff doesn't get introduced in places like this. And then, and you'll watch this in yourself. I'll try to put a circuit in your mind so you'll know exactly the point where you start pissing my community off. Can we bring up the cruel tutelage of Pai Mei?What's that?I love chick flicks, and I think the ultimate chick flick.Joe, it sounds like my ex wife.I've seen you right now with your socks on.Let's go. Let's. Let's go earlier than this.Is that from kill Bill?Yeah.Oh, okay.I can't show this.That's why we can't. Yeah, you gotta be more specific.Show. The bride goes up to the top of these stairs, okay. And Peime asks her, what do you know? And she says something like, I am acquainted with such and such so and so, and I am more than proficient in the fine art of japanese, whatever. And Pai Mei completely kicks her ass because she doesn't understand where she is. And my claim is, is that you need your ass kicked, and you need to apprentice to some of us who know more than you. And believe me, let me just tell you this. I've had my ass kicked, and I will get my ass kicked more because you need some kind of humility. You're coming across wrong, by the way. Never pick a fight with Jamie Foxx. Holy shit. Is that guy good at everything?I learned that the hard way.Jimmy, if you're out there, I totally love you. And what you did in Ray is just unbelievable.He does in every move.He's just. He's so damn good.Yeah. He's an insanely talented person.He's an insanely talented person.He's one of the most intelligent people I've met. I was sitting on the set of Ali with him, and I'm playing chess with him, and I'm playing a serious game of chess. He's having a conversation with two other people while he's playing chess with me as if it's nothing. As if it's nothing. Yeah. And I play chess well. So for I was. I've never been more impressed with somebody who can compartmentalize. And he's an organizational genius.He's whatever he is. He is. But you know what? I had my guy. My guy was named Noam Elkes. I don't know if Noam Elkey. Never heard of no Milkey Nomelke's. I entered Harvard at 19 with a master's degree. Noam was 18. He didn't have a master's degree. So we were sort of, in a weird way, neck and neck and everything that I thought I was good at, nome was better. Noam, I played a little piano. Gnome could compose anything. I mean, this guy's just, like, super genius, beyond genius, right? And he was, he wasn't a bad guy at all, but he was so powerful in his mind that, like, he composed, I think, an eleven by eleven crossword with no black squares, stuff that just can't be done. And I thought, geez, there's just no point in competing with gnome alkes. And one Christmas party, the professor named Raoul bott heard me trying to play boogie woogie piano. And Noam sat down, and like Raoul said, why don't you play us some boogie woogie? And Noam started playing what he thought was boogie woogie, but it was like Rachmaninoff. And Raoul would say, no, no, no, and Noam would go into Chopin, and then he'd go into Liszt.He was playing ever more brilliant things, and finally his brain just blew because he couldn't think through boogie woogie. But Noam then became the youngest professor in the history of Harvard University. I realized that I had accidentally entered in a year in which a gnome elkies was present. And by having my ass kicked repeatedly by this guy, I had to ask myself the question, well, what am I doing on this planet? What do I have to contribute? And all the things I see a Jamie Foxx doing, he's not trying to do anything like this, right? There's a creative spark and a spirit in you that I really see and appreciate. It comes from an older era, and we don't have people like you in the academy anywhere. We used to have lots of these polymaths connect fields. And right now, what we've got is a specialization epidemic. And as far as I can tell, what you need is some discipline. And you need discipline from coming into contact with people who know a lot more than you, who can educate you as to what, we already understand how to communicate those things and not just shut them down.And the epidemic we have is assassins. We have an assassin epidemic because the midwits in the system, all they do is see things in terms of, like, Dunning Kruger. Dunning Kruger. Dunning Kruger. The funny part about it is that that's the midwits endpoint, is that they see heterodox thinkers and they can't figure out how to place them. And so they just say, if I can find one error, I can reject everything. And you keep triggering that, and that's.Why you are one times one. But that's why I keep saying the one times one is more of not a metaphor.To us, it is life and death. You try to sneak one times one through airport security, it's like. It's just the Glock 19.I understand that, but it was really to gain the attention.They never do it to gain the attention.You didn't know, and now you know.Well, okay, there's one more that's going to keep us from ever getting you through this thing. Can we pull up my page again?And we're gonna wrap it up with this one.Yeah. I wanted. Well, I want to do this. It'd be a little bit.We didn't even. But we didn't even.Terrence.Terrence, we're so far down the road.This is four and a half hours.Okay. I want you to take a look at the chemical engineering PhD, because if we don't do that, I can't actually help you.Oh, that right there. Let me talk to. Let me explain that. Yeah, here. I took over to. What was the name of the university? South Carolina University. I was working with Apollo diamonds. We were growing diamonds, and I had developed a way in which to grow diamonds larger than the two carat diamonds. I went over to South Carolina University, and I talked to them about introducing the diamond process, you know, into their university. They were going to give me an honorary degree.Okay.Now I'm thinking they're giving me an honorary degree in chemical engineering because of what I'm doing, and it's just an honorary degree in humanities that they gave me. And so I went on the show, and I was like, yeah, well, I got the. I got an honorary degree from them. But that ended up coming across as if I got an honorary degree in chemical engineering, which I don't have. An honorary degree in chemical engineering.Assume you did. An honorary degree is worthless. It's like, would you take, if your. If your child needed brain surgery, would you go to doctor Dre.No.Okay, Aaron, I want you to hold this. As a guy who had. Who was 19 with a master's degree, Harvard University. And I got into a fight and took me seven years to get that away from it, from them. And they would have been happy to bury me without it. Okay? That is blood, sweat, and tears. And the work that I actually started doing ended up in somebody else's name because Harvard University credited with them, with it.That's the PhD person.When you screw around with a PhD like this, Claudine gay. This woman needs to be fired. Okay? Harvard University needs to go back to the business of kicking ass and taking names and being the place that is the shining city on the hill. Enough with the antisemitism. Enough with the woke, enough with the DEI. Don't ever let me catch you talking about Jim Crow mathematics. You're getting absolutely treated seriously for the serious stuff that you've done. You're getting treated properly for the wrong stuff. That thing about the PhD, it's basically fraud. What I'm saying to you is, I don't give a shit. Merit is merit. If I can catch you in a fraud, if I can catch you in a lie, I can catch you in an error. I don't care. My question is, what did you do? What was the cool stuff you did do? I'm not an assassin. I don't care if you, in part, exaggerated your achievements. I know how. What it feels like to be shat on. I know that you have no ability to fight what's being said to you from on high. Okay. What I'm saying is, the only thing that matters is what you contribute in the end.And imagine that there was. Was fraud. Imagine that there were lies. Imagine that there were errors. And imagine that the linchpin turns out to be the next level drone that defines everything, because, accidentally, there are six degrees of freedom and there's six dimensions in the semi direct product of so three with r three. Whatever. It doesn't matter. It's that cool. Gregor Mendel probably faked his peapod experiments, and there's a guy named David E. Kaplan at Johns Hopkins University who said to me something so beautiful, I can't reproduce it. He said, physics is based on everything. It's the backstabbing. It's the frauds. It's the geniuses. It's the craftsmen and the workmen who get the job done, the experimentalists who toil on papers with a thousand people. And this community of all of these people have come together to produce something which is something close to the source code of the universe. And if you're interested in that pursuit and you want to get rid of some of the baby fat and some of the bullshit, I'm happy to help. There's a lot of work to do. It. It happens that I had done a lot of the work over my life so I didn't have to put an infinite amount of energy into this.But what happened is that you created a mass delusion, and it was a mass delusion in part because we were not aware of what mass delusions actually are. They start with a nub of truth. They start with creative sparks of genius. So we're on the lookout for people who are just frauds, who have nothing that they actually can contribute. And what we don't realize is that you have these things about Kayfabe, which are these melanges of reality and fakery, right? And they're interwoven. What you've produced is something that is part bullshit it and part real contribution. And we don't have a system to pull it apart, and we don't have any experience for how to sense when that's what's going on.But they consider the bullshit to be the one times one equaling two. And the 97 patents, the super symmetry.It'S not the 97 patents. It's not the supersymmetry. It's simply the residue, the reduction of. When we get rid of all the stuff that wasn't supposed to be here. Here. Because you're a self taught polymath, you're obviously incredibly intelligent. You're obviously not taught by the system, and you can't do that work all on your own.No.So you got to come in and you got to find somebody who's not looking to kill you.And that's been the entire dance. What I've tried to do is introduce a new set of tools to the scientific and mathematical community so that they can advance past the platonic solids. The platonic solids I still see in the two or three dimensional position. And since we are living in hyperspace and hyperbolic reality, then we need to have tools that define that hyperbolic space so we don't have to go through Lorenzo transformations and all of these unnecessary steps in order to get to defining curved space.I think that the real story, Terrence, is going to be whether you can stop teaching long enough to accept some help.I'm here to accept the help, and.I'm here to learn from you. Because I'll tell you something. The linchpin is a good example of something which I didn't know. And to the extent that I did know it, I threw it away. And I think it's a great idea. And I think that the art, and I think that some of the higher dimensional stuff, and I think that a lot of this stuff has a kind of beauty, that if John Horton Conway were still alive and hadn't been killed by Covid, I'd know where to send you. There's a guy, you know, there are sphere packing people. There are combinatorists. There are all sorts of people who play with stuff in this realm. But the one thing that you've got to stop doing is that when you get on a program that has millions of people, you can't create one more mass delusion. I've got a fauci. Mass delusion. I've got a string theory mass delusion. I've got a Biden. This fine mass delusion. I've got a Trump is not a problem. Mass delusion. All I have, morning, noon, and night, is mass delusion on mass delusion. But people don't understand that. The reason that these mass delusions get started is that there's enough of truth in them.QAnon is not, can't be total bullshit, because it's got some core in it. That's right. And some craziness. If you think about dianetics and Scientology, the first thing that they teach about is the reactive mind. That's not a terrible theory. And then before you know it, it's xenu and volcanoes. Right. So what's going on is that people are not aware of how kayfabe works. Right. Wrestling is one of the most dangerous, demanding sports of a certain kind. Now, it happens to be theatrical and pre programmed, but if you've ever dealt with anybody like the wrestling community, suffers a death rate unlike any other sport in the world. What you have to understand is that kayfabe, and I highly recommend you look at my essay from 2011, is about what happens when fantasy and reality intermingle. And that's what you did on the last time that you were here. And I can talk to you about the fantasy. I can talk to you about the fraud and the lies. But I'm also going to talk to you about the contributions, the genius and the insight. And what I want the world to learn is you're getting sucked into mass delusions that you're not properly imagining.There's almost always a core of truth and reality that the mainstream won't acknowledge. And then there's almost always a bullshit payload that gets leavened in because in some sense, the mainstream is our official cult and then all of the rest of us produce these other cults. And in my situation, I've gone 40 years and I haven't had a really deep conversation about GU geometric unity with my own community. Where you are is that you're in a world in which the number of people who are both competent and honest and ethical enough to have the conversation with you has dwindling to fewer than ten. It's been a pleasure and an honor to appear with you. Thanks for being a decent guy. I know that not all of this has been welcomed.This has all been welcomed. Any truth. And like I said, I take you up on examining and exploring these into the areas because like I said, these are tools. I just want to offer a new set of tools, tools to that community so that they can now advance past the points where we are.Try not offering, because the first thing you need to do, the first thing you need to do is not necessarily be a student. It's not a higher versus lower, but just recognize that you're bringing gifts and you're bringing problems. And it's very expensive to help you, but it doesn't mean it's impossible. And one of the great things about this program is that if there is anybody out there, there, they can hear it. Now, I'll be honest with you. I've been on this program maybe six times before. I am often astounded that I can reach all of planet Earth and there isn't a single soul who can hear me. And I think that one of the things you're going to have to reckon with is you're saying certain things and you may get hundreds and hundreds or thousands of responses and there won't be a single meaningful response among them. And I don't know what to do about that. That. But stay off Twitter. I did. I, yeah, I. I did my best to give you whatever response I could.All I really want is if you saw some benefit in the things that I've displayed and showed, shared with you.I want them in my house.Then let's have a conversation. I've got, I've got it set for you.We got, we're all connected now. Thank you very much, gentlemen. It was a lot of fun.Thank you, guys.Very interesting, very informative. Thank you, Jamie.Thank you, Jamie, very, very much.All right. Bye, everybody.Thank you.

and Jay Bhattachary, I was just with Jay Bhattacharya. In Italy, you have this guy who has a PhD in economics, and he's a doctor and he's a professor, and he becomes a fringe epidemiologist overnight because some bureaucrat who was probably in control of the bioweapons portfolio, you know, because we signed these two treaties during the 1970s, the Geneva Convention and the Bioweapons convention, he and Francis Collins suddenly convert a respected colleague into a fringe epidemiologist. It's like, no, we're gonna have a mutiny, and the mutiny is gonna be based here because this is a place that you'd invite Tony Fauci and Jay Bhattacharya.

Oh, for sure.

Yeah, we can do any of that.

I bring garlic.

We could have Michio Kaku crosses on the wall. Let's have Michio Kaku and Brian Green. Let's have a discussion about string theory. Let's fundamentally discuss neoclassical economics. Shall we discuss whether or not random mutation is the true engine of neo Darwinism? Is that reasonable? Or do some of these crazy people who say, I don't know what it is, but random mutation isn't powerful enough to build proteins because stability is too difficult. The sad fact, Joe, is that you built something that has some credibility. And even though you think of it as, I just like having conversations with people, and a lot of them are fighters, and I'm just a meatball. We don't have any other place. We can't go to the National Academy of Science. It's too politicized. We can't go to Harvard. You saw what just happened with Claudine Gay, who's still a professor. We've lost everything. And podcasts as dippy and shitty and as variable in quality as they are, Jerry, very much included, is this is all that's left. And my claim is that I'll challenge Neil. I actually think that this is a better place to do review because I'm on the hook.

And by the way, some of the shit that I've said is probably wrong.

The thing that pisses everybody off is the fact that I have the models behind what I'm talking about. When I talk about when we describe the electric field or the plasmic field, I've got models that define every aspect of that motion, and I'm waiting for it to be reviewed.

I will shorten you.

I would. I would love that. I would love that.

I'll take some of your money.

I would love that. I would, I would, I would love that.

But I'll also try to help make them better.

But it's having the proof. And then, mind you, like Jamie, if you pull up the.

But Terence, you know what he's saying about, like, not being an expert in teaching and then coming from the outside and that. It's insulting. It's like, yeah, it's insulting. It's a bad way to approach a concept, because the people that have been studying these concepts for so long, instantaneously are told that they don't know, but, you know, and that's offensive to people that are actual experts in a thing. I think the same ideas could be portrayed in a way that does not do that.

They have to learn that nomenclature.

It's just, you're so much smarter than most of the people you're talking to. That's what the problem is.

And this is one of the failures of Joe's bullshit detector. In other words, you believe what you're saying. And you're obviously very, very smart, and you obviously have a huge amount of things that you've been introduced to. Like how many other people bring up Herman Grossman and geometric algebra and Clifford algebra. I think I'm probably the only other one in the history of this program to do that.

When I saw you mentioned Clifford algebra, I was like, ok, there's a commonality right now.

Sean Carroll for sure knows what a Clifford algebra. I'm not sure whether Neil degrasse Tyson does. Brian Greene certainly does. But in general, this stuff doesn't get introduced in places like this. And then, and you'll watch this in yourself. I'll try to put a circuit in your mind so you'll know exactly the point where you start pissing my community off. Can we bring up the cruel tutelage of Pai Mei?

What's that?

I love chick flicks, and I think the ultimate chick flick.

Joe, it sounds like my ex wife.

I've seen you right now with your socks on.

Let's go. Let's. Let's go earlier than this.

Is that from kill Bill?

Yeah.

Oh, okay.

I can't show this.

That's why we can't. Yeah, you gotta be more specific.

Show. The bride goes up to the top of these stairs, okay. And Peime asks her, what do you know? And she says something like, I am acquainted with such and such so and so, and I am more than proficient in the fine art of japanese, whatever. And Pai Mei completely kicks her ass because she doesn't understand where she is. And my claim is, is that you need your ass kicked, and you need to apprentice to some of us who know more than you. And believe me, let me just tell you this. I've had my ass kicked, and I will get my ass kicked more because you need some kind of humility. You're coming across wrong, by the way. Never pick a fight with Jamie Foxx. Holy shit. Is that guy good at everything?

I learned that the hard way.

Jimmy, if you're out there, I totally love you. And what you did in Ray is just unbelievable.

He does in every move.

He's just. He's so damn good.

Yeah. He's an insanely talented person.

He's an insanely talented person.

He's one of the most intelligent people I've met. I was sitting on the set of Ali with him, and I'm playing chess with him, and I'm playing a serious game of chess. He's having a conversation with two other people while he's playing chess with me as if it's nothing. As if it's nothing. Yeah. And I play chess well. So for I was. I've never been more impressed with somebody who can compartmentalize. And he's an organizational genius.

He's whatever he is. He is. But you know what? I had my guy. My guy was named Noam Elkes. I don't know if Noam Elkey. Never heard of no Milkey Nomelke's. I entered Harvard at 19 with a master's degree. Noam was 18. He didn't have a master's degree. So we were sort of, in a weird way, neck and neck and everything that I thought I was good at, nome was better. Noam, I played a little piano. Gnome could compose anything. I mean, this guy's just, like, super genius, beyond genius, right? And he was, he wasn't a bad guy at all, but he was so powerful in his mind that, like, he composed, I think, an eleven by eleven crossword with no black squares, stuff that just can't be done. And I thought, geez, there's just no point in competing with gnome alkes. And one Christmas party, the professor named Raoul bott heard me trying to play boogie woogie piano. And Noam sat down, and like Raoul said, why don't you play us some boogie woogie? And Noam started playing what he thought was boogie woogie, but it was like Rachmaninoff. And Raoul would say, no, no, no, and Noam would go into Chopin, and then he'd go into Liszt.

He was playing ever more brilliant things, and finally his brain just blew because he couldn't think through boogie woogie. But Noam then became the youngest professor in the history of Harvard University. I realized that I had accidentally entered in a year in which a gnome elkies was present. And by having my ass kicked repeatedly by this guy, I had to ask myself the question, well, what am I doing on this planet? What do I have to contribute? And all the things I see a Jamie Foxx doing, he's not trying to do anything like this, right? There's a creative spark and a spirit in you that I really see and appreciate. It comes from an older era, and we don't have people like you in the academy anywhere. We used to have lots of these polymaths connect fields. And right now, what we've got is a specialization epidemic. And as far as I can tell, what you need is some discipline. And you need discipline from coming into contact with people who know a lot more than you, who can educate you as to what, we already understand how to communicate those things and not just shut them down.

And the epidemic we have is assassins. We have an assassin epidemic because the midwits in the system, all they do is see things in terms of, like, Dunning Kruger. Dunning Kruger. Dunning Kruger. The funny part about it is that that's the midwits endpoint, is that they see heterodox thinkers and they can't figure out how to place them. And so they just say, if I can find one error, I can reject everything. And you keep triggering that, and that's.

Why you are one times one. But that's why I keep saying the one times one is more of not a metaphor.

To us, it is life and death. You try to sneak one times one through airport security, it's like. It's just the Glock 19.

I understand that, but it was really to gain the attention.

They never do it to gain the attention.

You didn't know, and now you know.

Well, okay, there's one more that's going to keep us from ever getting you through this thing. Can we pull up my page again?

And we're gonna wrap it up with this one.

Yeah. I wanted. Well, I want to do this. It'd be a little bit.

We didn't even. But we didn't even.

Terrence.

Terrence, we're so far down the road.

This is four and a half hours.

Okay. I want you to take a look at the chemical engineering PhD, because if we don't do that, I can't actually help you.

Oh, that right there. Let me talk to. Let me explain that. Yeah, here. I took over to. What was the name of the university? South Carolina University. I was working with Apollo diamonds. We were growing diamonds, and I had developed a way in which to grow diamonds larger than the two carat diamonds. I went over to South Carolina University, and I talked to them about introducing the diamond process, you know, into their university. They were going to give me an honorary degree.

Okay.

Now I'm thinking they're giving me an honorary degree in chemical engineering because of what I'm doing, and it's just an honorary degree in humanities that they gave me. And so I went on the show, and I was like, yeah, well, I got the. I got an honorary degree from them. But that ended up coming across as if I got an honorary degree in chemical engineering, which I don't have. An honorary degree in chemical engineering.

Assume you did. An honorary degree is worthless. It's like, would you take, if your. If your child needed brain surgery, would you go to doctor Dre.

No.

Okay, Aaron, I want you to hold this. As a guy who had. Who was 19 with a master's degree, Harvard University. And I got into a fight and took me seven years to get that away from it, from them. And they would have been happy to bury me without it. Okay? That is blood, sweat, and tears. And the work that I actually started doing ended up in somebody else's name because Harvard University credited with them, with it.

That's the PhD person.

When you screw around with a PhD like this, Claudine gay. This woman needs to be fired. Okay? Harvard University needs to go back to the business of kicking ass and taking names and being the place that is the shining city on the hill. Enough with the antisemitism. Enough with the woke, enough with the DEI. Don't ever let me catch you talking about Jim Crow mathematics. You're getting absolutely treated seriously for the serious stuff that you've done. You're getting treated properly for the wrong stuff. That thing about the PhD, it's basically fraud. What I'm saying to you is, I don't give a shit. Merit is merit. If I can catch you in a fraud, if I can catch you in a lie, I can catch you in an error. I don't care. My question is, what did you do? What was the cool stuff you did do? I'm not an assassin. I don't care if you, in part, exaggerated your achievements. I know how. What it feels like to be shat on. I know that you have no ability to fight what's being said to you from on high. Okay. What I'm saying is, the only thing that matters is what you contribute in the end.

And imagine that there was. Was fraud. Imagine that there were lies. Imagine that there were errors. And imagine that the linchpin turns out to be the next level drone that defines everything, because, accidentally, there are six degrees of freedom and there's six dimensions in the semi direct product of so three with r three. Whatever. It doesn't matter. It's that cool. Gregor Mendel probably faked his peapod experiments, and there's a guy named David E. Kaplan at Johns Hopkins University who said to me something so beautiful, I can't reproduce it. He said, physics is based on everything. It's the backstabbing. It's the frauds. It's the geniuses. It's the craftsmen and the workmen who get the job done, the experimentalists who toil on papers with a thousand people. And this community of all of these people have come together to produce something which is something close to the source code of the universe. And if you're interested in that pursuit and you want to get rid of some of the baby fat and some of the bullshit, I'm happy to help. There's a lot of work to do. It. It happens that I had done a lot of the work over my life so I didn't have to put an infinite amount of energy into this.

But what happened is that you created a mass delusion, and it was a mass delusion in part because we were not aware of what mass delusions actually are. They start with a nub of truth. They start with creative sparks of genius. So we're on the lookout for people who are just frauds, who have nothing that they actually can contribute. And what we don't realize is that you have these things about Kayfabe, which are these melanges of reality and fakery, right? And they're interwoven. What you've produced is something that is part bullshit it and part real contribution. And we don't have a system to pull it apart, and we don't have any experience for how to sense when that's what's going on.

But they consider the bullshit to be the one times one equaling two. And the 97 patents, the super symmetry.

It'S not the 97 patents. It's not the supersymmetry. It's simply the residue, the reduction of. When we get rid of all the stuff that wasn't supposed to be here. Here. Because you're a self taught polymath, you're obviously incredibly intelligent. You're obviously not taught by the system, and you can't do that work all on your own.

No.

So you got to come in and you got to find somebody who's not looking to kill you.

And that's been the entire dance. What I've tried to do is introduce a new set of tools to the scientific and mathematical community so that they can advance past the platonic solids. The platonic solids I still see in the two or three dimensional position. And since we are living in hyperspace and hyperbolic reality, then we need to have tools that define that hyperbolic space so we don't have to go through Lorenzo transformations and all of these unnecessary steps in order to get to defining curved space.

I think that the real story, Terrence, is going to be whether you can stop teaching long enough to accept some help.

I'm here to accept the help, and.

I'm here to learn from you. Because I'll tell you something. The linchpin is a good example of something which I didn't know. And to the extent that I did know it, I threw it away. And I think it's a great idea. And I think that the art, and I think that some of the higher dimensional stuff, and I think that a lot of this stuff has a kind of beauty, that if John Horton Conway were still alive and hadn't been killed by Covid, I'd know where to send you. There's a guy, you know, there are sphere packing people. There are combinatorists. There are all sorts of people who play with stuff in this realm. But the one thing that you've got to stop doing is that when you get on a program that has millions of people, you can't create one more mass delusion. I've got a fauci. Mass delusion. I've got a string theory mass delusion. I've got a Biden. This fine mass delusion. I've got a Trump is not a problem. Mass delusion. All I have, morning, noon, and night, is mass delusion on mass delusion. But people don't understand that. The reason that these mass delusions get started is that there's enough of truth in them.

QAnon is not, can't be total bullshit, because it's got some core in it. That's right. And some craziness. If you think about dianetics and Scientology, the first thing that they teach about is the reactive mind. That's not a terrible theory. And then before you know it, it's xenu and volcanoes. Right. So what's going on is that people are not aware of how kayfabe works. Right. Wrestling is one of the most dangerous, demanding sports of a certain kind. Now, it happens to be theatrical and pre programmed, but if you've ever dealt with anybody like the wrestling community, suffers a death rate unlike any other sport in the world. What you have to understand is that kayfabe, and I highly recommend you look at my essay from 2011, is about what happens when fantasy and reality intermingle. And that's what you did on the last time that you were here. And I can talk to you about the fantasy. I can talk to you about the fraud and the lies. But I'm also going to talk to you about the contributions, the genius and the insight. And what I want the world to learn is you're getting sucked into mass delusions that you're not properly imagining.

There's almost always a core of truth and reality that the mainstream won't acknowledge. And then there's almost always a bullshit payload that gets leavened in because in some sense, the mainstream is our official cult and then all of the rest of us produce these other cults. And in my situation, I've gone 40 years and I haven't had a really deep conversation about GU geometric unity with my own community. Where you are is that you're in a world in which the number of people who are both competent and honest and ethical enough to have the conversation with you has dwindling to fewer than ten. It's been a pleasure and an honor to appear with you. Thanks for being a decent guy. I know that not all of this has been welcomed.

This has all been welcomed. Any truth. And like I said, I take you up on examining and exploring these into the areas because like I said, these are tools. I just want to offer a new set of tools, tools to that community so that they can now advance past the points where we are.

Try not offering, because the first thing you need to do, the first thing you need to do is not necessarily be a student. It's not a higher versus lower, but just recognize that you're bringing gifts and you're bringing problems. And it's very expensive to help you, but it doesn't mean it's impossible. And one of the great things about this program is that if there is anybody out there, there, they can hear it. Now, I'll be honest with you. I've been on this program maybe six times before. I am often astounded that I can reach all of planet Earth and there isn't a single soul who can hear me. And I think that one of the things you're going to have to reckon with is you're saying certain things and you may get hundreds and hundreds or thousands of responses and there won't be a single meaningful response among them. And I don't know what to do about that. That. But stay off Twitter. I did. I, yeah, I. I did my best to give you whatever response I could.

All I really want is if you saw some benefit in the things that I've displayed and showed, shared with you.

I want them in my house.

Then let's have a conversation. I've got, I've got it set for you.

We got, we're all connected now. Thank you very much, gentlemen. It was a lot of fun.

Thank you, guys.

Very interesting, very informative. Thank you, Jamie.

Thank you, Jamie, very, very much.

All right. Bye, everybody.

Thank you.