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Good to see you, brother.

Dude, thanks for having me, man.

My pleasure.

This is a fucking pleasure.

How fun was this weekend, man? It was insane.

It was not since Cher was at the garden has there been so much.

Pandemonium, bro, when Brian Holtz was screaming.

About Billy Joel, you're going right to that. Because I was like, how long are we going to wait until we talk about it? Scott Holtzman isolating the room.

He was amazing. He was amazing.

Seeing him at the comedy store, which we've seen him many times, and then at the mothership, now seeing him in an arena like that go full on. Holtzman is a real treat.

16,000 people, and he went.

He opened with fuck Billy Joel. Yeah. And then he's like, I don't care if your favorite hair, that's your daughter. Fuck em. Look at it. You play the fucking piano. I mean, yeah, it was wild.

He was amazing.

The surprises on that show, I wanna hear from your vantage point real quick, from obviously doing arenas for a while now, a show like that, getting to see you for a moment before you walked out backstage, and you were just like, it was cool to see you looking at it, like, what the fuck? This is why I was blown away.

First of all, I have seen kill Tony evolve from the very beginning. So I saw some of the earliest episodes in the belly room.

But you were telling me Tony came to you and was like, will you do my show? I got this new. And you were just like, yeah, fucking, all right, help a buddy out. You have no idea what it was.

No. When I first did it, I was like, okay, let's have some fun. I think I first did it. He brought up. I might have first did it at the ice house. They used to do it at the ice house in the little room.

Yeah.

So that was probably one of the first ones that I did. And I did a bunch in the belly room, and then it moved to the main room, and then it moved to Texas when everything shut down, they were trying to do it in the main room for a while with no audience. They did quite a few episodes with zero audience. It's just a story of persistence and getting.

That's why I keep telling you on comics, the consistency is so overlooked in this business. And Tony just believed in it and also kept finding ways to evolve it. And the more people you guys coming on, and then, like, you'd see Saget come on, and, like, more and more people started to go, oh, something different to fuck around with, right?

Yeah. And he just got better at it, too.

Yeah, that's, you know, I mean, he's.

He's a wizard at hosting that show.

Yeah.

He's got. He's managing all these moving parts. He knows when to bring people in and when to, you know, he knows, like, how to work the panel. He knows how to, like, let you go, let somebody else go. He's like, it's a dance, man. And the dude is the best at it. He's the fucking best at it. So for me, walking out there and seeing that crowd, I was like, this is insane. And to see the black keys on stage, I'm like, this is insane. Jelly roll. Jelly roll. Sing in New York, like, what the fuck is happening, man? This is crazy.

Yeah. The pops that everybody got, like, all the surprises.

Oh, my God. When Joey Diaz went on stage, it was the loudest I've ever heard an audience cheer for any human being ever in my life.

I thought he was gonna be so taken aback by the roar that he was legit going to run for president, because he came out, he was like, you cock shotguns back here. I came to the circus, by the way. He came in so hot and rode that high and got in, like, three or four bangers. And I saw Tony at the airport last night, and he was like, I didn't even hear what he said. And I go, dude. He said something about, like, I played here. I was on quaaludes. They put me in the handicap section, and then I fucking came to the circus. It was the different circus where there was no net. The clowns fell. They just fucking swept him out of the way, girl.

He went off.

That was awesome.

He went off. It was classic.

And you never seen me do Doctor Phil, probably live, right?

No, I don't think I have.

How was that?

I think I might have saw it once at the mothership. How many did you do?

I've only done it on kill Tony twice. And then I did two Phil shows on a Sunday there. But you were gone.

That's right. Okay. No, so that was the first time I ever saw you do it on stage.

Yeah.

And no, I know Doctor Phil. Know. He's been on the podcast. Good friends with his son.

Yeah.

So.

So what is that like?

It's gotta be weird for him. It's gotta be weird for him. This guy is doing a comedic version of him. It's like the most popular guest on.

Kill Tony, the fuck, dude? Of all the.

I mean, dude, it's a great guest, dude. It's a great guess. And, you know, the fucking. And that. That's not the best image because there you can kind of see that. You got that thing on your head.

Yeah, the ball cap.

But you can't tell while you're on stage. It's fucking incredible.

It's wild, right?

It's so funny, dude. You have that character is like, what's in all.

It's still got the abrasiveness of, like, talk show Phil, right? Like, bustin chops. Like, that's why it makes sense when I'm doing these roast jokes, right, that you're like, yeah, it doesn't seem. Cause even for me, I didn't know. I didn't watch, like, a whole season of Phil episodes. It was during COVID My wife and I were just stoned and drunk and watching bullshit. And then we'd see these Phil reruns, and I was just laughing. Cause these kids would come on and they're like, you know, my mom tried to tell me I can't smoke weed. He's like, well, maybe you should shut your fucking little twat mouth. He wouldn't say it, but he was just. In a version, he was just like, well, maybe you need to look in the mirror and see that you aren't exactly perfect. I mean, he just was real abrasive, but in a funny way. And it's a funny type of character to do this with because everyone has some idea of who Phil is, but he's not so known that you're like, this wouldn't like, how do I know this isn't who he is? Right, right. And making him.

I'm not defaming him either. I'm not up there saying silly shit that's, like, racist or whatever.

No, no, no.

It's all goof.

It's very funny.

And I think he picks up on that.

Oh, he's a great guy. I'm sure he does. I'm sure he's flattered.

Well, his publicists are trying to get him to come on my show, which would break the Internet. Cause what I wanna do at the store or wherever. Cause now we're doing these theater. I'm doing the beacon in November and the Philly. The Miller Theater in Philly in October.

I'm doing the Gramercy.

Just got done. The Gramercy. Yeah. But all these Phil theater tours is what we're doing now. Like, theater shows.

Wow.

We're gonna do the ACL live here next year and majestic and celebrity theater in Arizona.

Did you pay him?

No, I mean, fucking, where's my. Where's my Phil? Are you still cool with this cam right here? Hey, doc. But so when he comes on, I'm like, dude, it'll break the Internet when. Cause, you know, there's a whole intro video, and then, you know, please give it for doctor Phil. And so I'm thinking instead of me coming out, he walks out, and people just go nuts. And then maybe after 20, 30 seconds, I come out, shake hands.

Well, it's also an opportunity for him to shit on you for having the biggest thing of your career. Imitating him.

Well, that's what he said when he gave me guests of the year last year.

Yeah.

You finally figure out way to be famous, pretending to be someone other than yourself. And you know what, though? Isn't it, though, a great, like, as much as it, like, is so fun and so fun? And I want to say this about with Tony, too, his openness to go. I am always expanding. Not only, you know, I want to be involved in exploring, expanding comedy, but the kill Tony show, for Tony, for me to go, Tony, I think Phil on kill Tony would be fun. He's an advice guy. You were giving advice to comics. But for Tony, be like, fuck, yeah. Let's add more characters.

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Is really awesome.

Takes a lot of risks, and he likes to fly off the seat of his pants. He likes a little bit of chaos on the show. Like, twice I showed up with people, and I just brought them on stage. One time it was post Malone, and the other time was Tucker Carlson.

Oh, I saw that. Wait, that was impromptu.

Totally impromptu. They had no idea they were going to do it until they did it. When I got there with post, I was like, you got to come to the club. Let's go hang out. We were having just a great. I fucking love that guy. He's such a nice guy.

He really is.

He's so nice to everybody. He's nice to everybody. At the bar downstairs, all the staff. He's just so normal, man. He just hangs with you. He can just hang with you. And so, anyway, we're just hanging out. So, you know, we're like, let's go to the club. And so we get to the club, and Tony was there. I think we went to dinner. Did we go to dinner? Yeah, we went to dinner. And then after dinner, you go to Eddie's. Yes, dude, it's the best. So we leave there, and I go, let's go check out the club, and it was kill Tony. Okay, you got to see this show that they're doing. Doing. It's called kill Tony. It's crazy.

Oh, wow. So you're intro into the show.

No idea. He has no idea what's going on. He has no idea. I'm roping him into this. So I don't even have an idea. But Tony sends me his text, come on stage. And I was like, all right, dude, okay. I go, come on, man. We're gonna go on stage. He's like, fuck, yeah. Really? I go, yeah, come on, let's go on stage. And he just went with it. Went 100%, went with it, sat down, had a great fucking time. Had some funny lines. David Lucas, he looked like an unemployed crocodile hunter.

Oh, my God. Oh, my God, dude. Some of David's lines are so spot on. The joke is just as good as, like the, like, like, what did Jeff Ross called David tell when he came out on night two at the garden? He goes, you look like you run a. You manage a circus in Bosnia or something like that.

Yeah, Lucas said that I looked like because I was wearing that crazy fur coat and the glasses. He goes, you look like my 11th grade teacher. Did you catch outside of school?

Dude, I called Dave once. I go, all right, hootie and the bloated fish or, yeah, dude, Dave, that's another part of the show, too, where it's like, there's now been so many established parts that people look forward to, which makes an arena show so exciting for the fans. Cause they're like, wow, I'm gonna see surprises and bucket polls are. You have so many elements that are spontaneous, right?

Yeah. David saying those things was spontaneous in front of 16,000 people and crushing. Yeah, he's the best at that. Him and Tony back and forth. I told him they should do a podcast with just David Lucas and Tony talking shit to each other. Cause there's compilations on the Internet. They're like a fucking hour long of just David and Tony just shitting on it and laughing while they're shitting at each other.

Oh, yeah.

It's the best light hearted shitting on people I've ever seen from two wizards at it.

Like they're casting spells and fearless, but an underlying respect to where. And that's what's really cool.

Yeah.

So that there's no personal offense ever taken.

No, no, no. They love each other.

Had you ever seen you watch, I'm sure, some clips of Shane and I before? Like after we did that show with.

The mothership I saw a lot of clips from that show. Oh my God, that show has like, what is the number up to now? That episode?

16 million. Dude, that's so crazy, dude, we were in, it was a Friday and Tony calls me. I was doing kill Tony, but he goes, change of plans, need you to come Sunday. Bring your makeup gals. Shane sticking around doing Trump. And I go, holy shit. So in my head I'm like, this will be fun. You never still know how anything's gonna be received, right? But I'm just like, I don't know, man. Shane's as popular and fucking likable and funny as it gets and he has only done trump on his sketch show and on SNL. And I feel like I'll be able to figure out a Biden to whatever, but I know that Shane's down to play. So I knew that it was gonna be like, we're in the back, dude, and we're in the makeup chairs and I'm shuffling around and Shane's like, what are you doing for the face? And I'm like, well, I kinda gotta get the, you know, the half smile going like that. And then, and then I was shuffling around, did the face a few times and he started laughing. And then at one point I just look in the mirror and he's just going, we locked eyes and we started laughing.

I go, what the fuck are we doing, dude?

He's the best trump of all time. His trump is impossible, bro.

He was so in the pocket, which is why we made each other break a few times when we did the mothership because it was like, I can't believe we're doing this for 2 hours. Yeah, dude. But to run it back in the garden was like, I think the move too.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was awesome. It was amazing. The whole thing was amazing. Yeah, it was incredible.

Do you love?

Just to me it's just, it seems surreal. I know, like just standing there, taking it all in, it's like, what is.

Going on and how many people want to come in to fuck for Joey to come in, for Harlan to come in. Like Schultz flew in, I think from vacay just to like be there for that.

No, he was supposed to be. Yeah, he definitely through flew in, but he was supposed to be. There was a bunch of flights that got delay. We still made it, but still.

What a cool pop. Him coming out mid show.

Incredible. It was just so fun, man. Just so ultimately fun. Just really, just a great celebration, you know, a celebration of the success of the show and of comedy. Just fun, raw comedy.

Totally, dude. Do you, after, you know, all years of doing this, do things like that, I don't know, like, mean a little more to, like, be able to be. To see that, like, something like that live? Or is it, like, does it give you, I don't know, a little more juice for just comedy in general to know that, like, we're in a cool time where shit like that is possible and happening?

I guess, dude, we're in an amazing time. It's an amazing time for stand up. If you're funny and you're trying to have fun and just go out there and be silly. People are looking for that right now, man, and they're looking for something that rebels against this mind virus. It's telling you how to think and behave. We don't like it. Like, shut the fuck up. You're not compassionate and also controlling. That's not possible. This fucking scolding, shrill fucking stupidity that you hear from people telling you how you have to think and behave, that nothing, that these things are not up for debate. These are, like, existential threats to humanity and civilization aren't up for debate. Shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up.

I'm getting more and more just cognitive of, like, just jokes. Like, I get more and more bummed that people get really offended by certain things.

You just gotta stop paying attention. The key is, like, it's just jokes.

Like, no one's really, especially at our level, like, people making those jokes. It's like. Cause it sounded funny and it, like, was a, you know, I don't know. You know, to each his own and everything subjective, but, like.

Yeah, but this is what's going on, dude. There's always going to be people that wouldn't enjoy it, but they get to see it now.

Yeah.

Whereas before, people just found out what you did, you went to a club. You know, if you liked the guy, you liked the guy, you saw the guy on tv, you went to go see him live, and that was it.

Yeah.

Now you're getting exposed to people that would never go see you live.

Oh, bro, I get it.

They just want to talk so much shit. Yeah, but that is just because you're getting exposed to more people. So there's pros and cons. The pros is the show gets 16 million views. That's insane.

Yeah.

Like, what is an average Jimmy Fallon show get? Let's find out what that is. Like, what's the, what's the amount?

Maybe in the mills, probably.

Let's find out. I don't even know I don't even know. But he's probably the most popular of the late night guys, right?

Yeah.

So what does he get? I think Jimmy Kimmel quit. Right? Did he quit?

No, he's still going. Oh, yeah.

I thought he was gonna quit. Is he gonna quit?

I just saw Jeff Goldblum hosting there, and I think he's on vacation.

Maybe I would get to a point where I'd be like, when can I do every.

Asked to do that? No.

Yeah.

You doing a song with somebody.

The whole reason why I started a podcast is no one would ever give me money for a radio show. Not even a radio show.

Oh, wow.

Like, I was thinking about that. I was like, I would. I remember when Opie and Anthony got. They got taken off the air because they brought on a homeless guy who said some wild shit about Condoleezza Rice, like, wanting to rape her or something fucking awful.

I like that.

This guy was like, I had no idea.

At least in the noah. Enough to know who was like, yeah.

But he was just crazy homeless guy.

Right.

And Opie and Anthony was a wild show. I mean, those motherfuckers, especially when they got on XM, they could say whatever the fuck they wanted. Oh, my.

Were they definitely at the kind of the precipice of things? Kind of getting a little edgier?

Yeah.

Radio wise, they.

So an average gets 1,720,000 views. That's for Jimmy Kimmel. Is that the. So he's number 1.5. Okay. Fallon is 1.4. Oh.

Bears in the league.

Colbert is in the lead with 2.5 million. So out of those people, how many of them are tuning in? Because it's just on tv?

Sure.

There's a thing that people do. It's 11:00. What's on? You know, especially boomers. They're locked in. That's what they've done their whole fucking life.

Yeah.

See what's on tv. Oh, at 08:00 Colbert was on, and they just watch the show. Those are the same people that believe the news, which is ironic. Did you see what happened with Colbert's audience?

No.

So Caitlin Collins from CNN is on, and I see if I retweeted it, it's fucking hilarious. Constantine from trigonometry tweeted it, and I retweeted. I was like, this is crazy. I just want you to see it. Okay, before I describe it. But it is. It's the audience laughing at CNN being honest. Watch this. This is crazy. What's that, bro? Trying it to Twitter. It's uploading oh, this is the government. They're attacking Twitter because of the Elon Musk thing. Guaranteed. Let's just call it that from the beginning and go big screen because this is so preposterous. Trump has kind of been thrown on his heels by this, and he's not really sure how to go after Vice President Harris. He knew his attack lines on President Biden. He really has struggled with how to, how to go after someone who's 20 years younger than him, who is a different gender, a different race. It's kind of been this moment wherever he has not been able to coalesce around a single attack line.

I know you guys are objective over there that you just report the news as it is. Oh, I know a CNN makes it.

I know that's supposed to be a lab life.

I wasn't supposed to be, but I guess it is. Trump is kind of bro.

Wow, bro, bro. How crazy is that? The audience is like, shut the fuck up. That is hilarious. They thought he was being a joker. They thought that was a joke. That's how crazy this world has gotten where fucking CNN, being unbiased is a joke to people in the audience. That's so crazy. And why, what got accomplished? If you were running a business, what did you accomplish by doing things that way? You've ruined your business because now people think you're full of shit.

Yeah.

And you could have just been actual, just straightforward journalists and been beyond reproach and probably got away with. You wouldn't got as much money. They probably got as much money. Get those ads in.

Do you think that's what they teach to in journal? I mean, I don't know. At some, some point, like, when do you figure out when you're in journalism school or whatever that, like, there is a, there's probably obviously a handful of people more than that, that want to stay, like, you know, authentic and true.

And really, there's a lot of those.

And then at some point, you just, what, get an offer to go somewhere? Or somebody above you goes, dude, you got to get that story out. Like, you know, I don't know. And you're trying to get a name for yourself, like any sort of sports pundit, right? Sometimes they say wacky shit just to get their name out there, but, well.

It'S good for the business, right? So if they write a thing that says, you know, hey, everybody used to like Trump. Like, show you ever seen leave videos of Trump on the View with Barbara Walters back when they liked him? Ever seen that?

Yes, but I can't remember what you're referring to.

You should see it because it's bonkers house. Literally bonkers. It's going around. See if you can find it.

Like Barbara's. He's just being, dude, it's nuts.

It's like literally nuts.

Like Sean Connery saying you can hit women. Nuts.

No, no, no. They love him. They love him. Everyone loves Trump on the View. Whoopi loves him. Wow. Yeah. Barbara, Walter loves everyone.

Love approval. Wow.

Everybody was friendly. Everybody was like, they were considerate. They were talking nicely to each other. There's no attacks. It was a wonderful conversation.

Whoopi, I love your hair. What would you, what do you wash it with? Syrup. And they just laughed it.

I mean, it's going around. All right, so that's, I'll look on. Somebody posted, brother. That's why I can't remember who posted it on, on Twitter. But I was like, this is crazy. Watching it is just bananas.

Do you think they've seen what Shane and I have done at all? Do you think they've seen, like, for sure? Yes.

Yeah, this is it. Watch this. This is bonkers. Go full screen. This is literally bonkers. And the television. But does he really want to add president of the United States to his resume? A lot of people would like him to.

Please.

Let's find out. And please welcome my friend, Donald Trump. My friend, my friend. Watch this. Just watch this. This is nuts. We're in an alternative universe, okay. Because this is not that long ago.

Go standing o bro.

Watch this. Just watch how this goes. Watch this. So she's a Republican. That's easy. Yeah, but everybody else, Joy can't wait.

To get a hug in.

Yeah, everyone's hugging. Look at this. Look at this. Kisses, hugs, kisses to whoopi. Everybody. Hugs and kisses. Even Joy Behar. Hugs.

Even Joy Behar. Hugs and kisses.

See, now watch this. So I'm going to take you at your word that you have not decided yet when you're going to run, but you're thinking about it and you've expressed some of your views which are controversial and in many ways. Yeah, but not to her.

Well, not to her.

Okay, you're a Republican. But let's say, let's say that you do decide in the spring, right? And your ideas resonate so much.

On the other hand, you know, we.

Saw Newt Gingrich apologizing for his marriages and divorces.

You've had three marriages, two sort of uncomfortable divorces.

Do you think that the, they were very comfortable. We want me to bother.

Do you think getting laughs right away. That would bother anybody. I think the country is doing so badly, they want somebody that's going to help it.

I think the country has never been.

In a position like it is right now.

It's being ripped off by every nation, every intelligent nation in the world, whether it's China, they're taking our jobs, they're.

Making all our product, and then they loan us back the money.

We pay them interest, whether it's OPEC. That's crazy. Look at this watch. This is a field day right now. How about the arab league?

They say, we want you to go.

In and attack Libya.

These are the wealthiest countries in the world.

Why aren't they paying us?

So then they changed their minds.

But you didn't answer. No, I did answer your question. I really think people, I think maybe ten years ago it would have mattered five years ago. The fact is, I think people want.

Somebody now that's going to protect them.

And protect this country. Because we're not going to be a great country for long if we keep.

Going the way we're going right now.

The audience cheers. We have France.

France leading the charge.

Okay, France. This is our new leader, by the way.

They led for about 2 hours. After that, nobody's seen them.

I don't know if you know that or not geographically. Let me just ask a follow up question to that.

Their lead is the point. Let me just ask a follow up question to that.

Let's say you run. You've given a lot of thought for this. Who would you like as your vice president? Possibly Sarah Palin.

Well, I think it's far too early even to discuss that.

I'm going to make a decision sometime prior to June. I'm thinking about it very strongly. I think I'd do a really good job.

I think I'd protect this country like it's not being protected now.

It's funny, so many of the things.

I say now, politicians are saying, hey, that's right.

Why don't we, like, why aren't they paying us? If you look at North Korea, South Korea, we're protecting South Korea.

They're making a fortune, let's call it hundreds of billions of dollars of profit on us.

We have 25,000 soldiers over there protecting them. They don't pay us. Why are they paying us? You'd be treating us like a business.

A business with heart.

Believe me, there's a lot of heart.

It's a business, but it's also a business with heart.

We will destroy this country. Won't be a war if the economics.

Of this country keep going the way they're going.

We're not going to have a country. You're kind of a social liberal, Donald. You know, you're a social liberal. Could you actually get the base to vote for you in the primary? Well, every poll is saying that I'm.

The one that does the best.

You know, they're doing polls.

They actually have you. A higher approval rating than Mitt Romneyton, Pawlenty, John Boehner.

But out of all those, let's just pause and think.

Just, he's very poised.

He's listening, he's grasp the 180 that the media has taken on him since he decided to be president. When you see the machine go after a guy, we've never seen the machine go after someone as bold faced. You know, the prosecutions, the Russiagate stuff on television every night, all of it. And then to see, just a few years ago, they loved him.

Yeah.

You know, he was like a Democrat. He was a Democrat, I think.

Yeah.

Like 2000 something. Oh, yeah, 2008, maybe. Something crazy like that. Clinton.

I think they were all pals, right? There's pictures, them at Dave and Buster's and shit.

Just. Oh, yeah. Like what he, I think he said he had to pay them to come to a wedding. Like they have a price if you pay them.

Pay to play as a spectator.

What is an accusation? It's a Trump accusation. See, the thing about, it's like, apparently he said that he was in helicopter with Willy Brown, but it wasn't Willie Brown, it was Joe Brown. It was a different brown. And so now Willie Brown is saying that's not true. You know.

Yeah.

It's just Donald Trump says his money drew Hillary Clinton to his wedding. She had no choice because I gave it to a foundation. Wow.

Yeah.

Is that, is that what, what, what I just said with, is that true? Yeah. Joe Brown thing, I think that was like a mistake he made. And then people like, he's old, she's young. Like, you fucking seen her mistakes. This is crazy. The gaslighting is nuts. It's the same gaslighting they did to turn Trump into a monster. Now they're doing that same gaslighting to turn her into our future, our hope. And it's working. It's crazy to watch. It's crazy to watch.

Is it crazy to, like, I mean, I don't know. Do you, do you think it's only going to get like 20 years from now? Because the, the upswing, I guess, of just all social media. Social media and media in general, and then also, you're taking the people that are, you know, involved like it's the perfect mesh of, of crazy and crazier. Right?

So this says former Trump executive, disputes his claim that Willie Brown was on board. Right? This is a woman, said Barbara Rez, the Trump organization's former executive vice president of construction development, said former state senator Nate Holden was on the plane, not Brown. Is that the same exact helicopter thing? So is a helicopter crash? Is that what it was? So no, Brown was on there. Not Willie or Joe.

He's been on tons of helicopters.

It's all the, you know what she was saying? You know what she was saying? Like, he doesn't have an attack strategy. That's. I don't think, you know, this is what I was trying to say when everybody got mad at me, when I said what I liked about JFK junior or RFK junior. Excuse me. Robert F. Kennedy is a guy who just goes after issues, he goes after actions. He talks about things. Trump has, like, always in the past, like, attacked. He's like, attacked people attack people. And it's just in this case, I feel like I don't know if what they're doing right now, the way they're elevating, I don't know she's ever gonna debate him.

They locked one in, I think, September 10.

What is that gonna be like when she's off screen, off grid, off paper.

I don't know, off script, wild.

Just completely able to say whatever she wants. Whatever she wants to say. If we get one of, you kind.

Of gotta match Trump a little bit with his, you know, fearless. Like, you know, nobody has risen to the level of his, you know, I'm just gonna kind of interrupt and combat everything you say. Like, she's, you have to be, go toe to toe and be in the ring. You can't be there and kind of just.

Yeah, 100%. But I do have to say that that one speech that she gave right after they decided that she was gonna be the nominee, that one speech where she said, if you're gonna say something, why don't you say it to my face? Great timing.

Middle school recess. Shit.

It wasn't just that, man. The way that she delivered, it was like, very clear. It was prepared. Right. And so that means, like, she's coachable, you know, which is very important. If you want to be a president, you gotta be coachable.

Yeah.

You know?

Oh, yeah.

So she figured out how to deliver a banger of a speech. Right. Like, play that because it's pretty powerful.

Yeah, I think she'll have something to say back to him. Cause.

No, but this is the thing. That's a speech. But when you go to toe to toe to toe, when you're just talking off the top of your head, that's where she has some issues.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah. I think people lock up when they know that everybody is criticizing every word they're saying, and you're applying for a job as essentially the mom of the world.

Oh, wow. Wow.

Or the dad of the world. You know, if he wins, that's what you are. You're the fucking dad of the free world. Right.

But if she just does a Biden impression and goes, you're a sucker. You're a sucker. Just throws you right back at him.

There's so many people watching you, your brain just freezes up with anxiety. But listen to this. This is amazing.

Here's the thing.

Here's the funny thing about that.

Here's the funny thing about that.

So he won't debate, but he and his running mate sure seem to have a lot to say about me. And by the way, don't you find some of their stuff to just be plain weird? Well, Donald, I do hope you'll reconsider to meet me on the debate stage. As the saying goes, if you got something to say. Damn.

They knew it was coming.

Oh, she nailed it.

Yeah, she nailed that.

She nailed that. How do you think that's, that that alone can get you the president. This is. We're in idiocracy. That alone, like, she. That is.

Get a couple banger sound bites. Right.

You can't say that's not outstanding. Totally. She just crushed it. She crushed it. Yeah, she had the big moment.

Oh, I'm tuning in. This is pay per view now.

She had the big moment, and she crushed it. And she did it without any ums or stammers. No fucking missed words. She had a smile. The laugh made sense. It made sense there.

Yeah. Yeah. For the first time, it was in context.

But she laughs, like, sometimes she laughs, like, out of nerves. It seems like just. Just try to get everybody to feel lighter about the situation. Yeah, but that wasn't that one. That was like a genuine, genuine smile on a laughter. Crushed it.

Yeah.

That's a problem. That's a problem. And I don't think they thought she was gonna be able to do that. That's the thing.

Yeah.

You can fucking coach somebody, bro. It ain't hard. I mean, maybe she just practice these coaches.

There's public speakers and stuff.

Yeah. Public speaking coaches. Yeah. There's political speech analysts. There's people that magic.

There's comedians. David Lucas gets hired to give her, like, some one liners. Listen, I mean, there's a crazy world where there's shit like that where they. Somebody goes, you need a couple zingers in your back pocket.

I don't know, 100%.

That's not your world. And your brain doesn't operate like that. That Trump's does. Trump is looking at, like, you know, to make a little put down, or he's just quick in that way.

So he is quick in that way also. It would behoove him to hire a few great comics to just tour with him and just write one liners about all these different fucking people. I mean, if he could remember them. I mean, I think. I know he likes to go off his own head, but he could remember a few Hinchcliffe bangers. If he hires Hinchcliffe to take him on the road, you know, fucking insane, that would be. Yeah, dude, bangers. For Trump to shit on people.

Comedy cures. And it also is like, sometimes what kind of just pushes things over the top?

The thing you're getting from him is, you know, no one is coaching him, right. You know, he's going off the cuff. You know, he's. Nobody gets to tell him what to do when he goes out there and he tells him. I think it's like he's just off the cuff. Off the cuff. And that's why it gets sideways sometimes. You know, it gets a little fumbly sometimes.

I get.

But what I'm saying is that what she did was like a pro. She did that like a pro.

Yeah.

That's where it gets dangerous, because you.

Don'T think that was calculated. You think that was off the cuff, like, just responding to what was.

Yeah, no, that was a 100% planned out thing. Yeah, 100% and well executed.

Yeah.

Like, she fucking nailed it. The problem is, that's what we're looking for. It's not even necessarily who has the best policies for the country. It's not necessarily who's gonna make real reform, who's really gonna change things and make it better for everybody, versus who looks like the kind of person who should be president, who's talking like a.

Leader, who's got the whole audit.

Say it to my face and the holes.

What if that becomes your catchphrase?

That's a mic draw.

Yeah. You're going around to every country. I mean, that's your. There's gonna be those t shirts. That's your icarumba. If you're Bart Simpson.

Well, that's a bit of a problem. She does repeat the same speeches over and over and over again in these speeches. So they have all these compilations. Her saying things in the exact same order.

You got to mix it up.

But this is the thing that they like about Trump is that he does not do that. When Trump goes up there, he is more than capable of talking for an hour and a half straight. Be entertaining. He cracks on things, he says funny things like he was joking around about Biden wandering around, not knowing where he is. It was hilarious. It was like he was a comic, he was killing. I know, and I guarantee you he probably had an idea in his head that he's gonna shit on Biden, probably, you know, had an idea how he's gonna do it. But that's like just being a free baller. You're up there, free ball. He's the only one that can do that.

People do respond to that too. Everybody does, like you said, want to look at somebody and go, oh, they represent us well, the same way. Like if you have a agent or manager, right? You want them. If they're out in public, you go, oh, do they? Are they an extension of me in a certain way?

So we, you want to see the best at it.

Yeah.

Clinton, Clinton. When he was running for president the first time, bro, put on a clinic. I'll tell you something, dude, he's the fucking Michael Jordan of those motherfuckers.

I can't argue with that, dude.

Old school titty grabber from the called.

Tits Bazumbas, you know, he was an.

Animal and played the sax. And on our city, oh, guys, smooth talked better than, and he was like, that's the president. You hear him talk like, that's our guy.

Exactly right.

Listen to this motherfucker talk. Oh, let me just get a speech. When he was, this is when he's the president.

We've never seen that.

He's the president. He's playing saxophone. Give me a little bit of that. Let me hear it. Slinging dick before the Internet, son.

Up until this point we'd seen footage of like Nixon playing go fish. There was no cool president doing no.

He was the coolest ever. You know, people who lost their dogs. Uh huh.

Well, I've been governor of a small.

State for twelve years. I'll tell you how it's affected me.

Every year, Congress and the president sign laws that makes us, make us do more things and gives us less money.

To do it with.

I see people in my state, middle class people, their taxes have gone up in Washington and their services have gone down, while the wealthy have gotten tax cuts.

I have seen what's happened in this.

Last four years when in my state, when people lose their jobs, there's a good chance I'll know them by their names. When a factory closes, I know the people who ran it. When the businesses go bankrupt, I know them.

And I've been out here for 13.

Months meeting in meetings just like this, ever since October, with people like you.

All over America, people that have lost their jobs, lost their livelihood, lost their health insurance.

What I want you to understand is the national debt is not the only cause of that.

It is because America has not invested in its people.

It is because we have not grown.

It is because we've had twelve years.

Of trickle down economics.

We've gone from first to 12th in.

The world in wages. We've had four years where we produced.

No private sector jobs.

Most people are working harder for less money than they were making ten years ago. It is because we are in the grip of a failed economic theory. And this decision you're about to make better be about what kind of economic theory you want, not just people saying, I want to go fix it, but what are we going to do?

What I think we have to do is invest in american jobs, american education, control american health care costs, and bring.

The american people together again.

Okay, stop. If that guy runs right now, he wins. That guy runs right now, he fucking blows everybody out of the water.

Easy listening voice.

Democrats come home with, like, every fucking state. That guy wins.

Can you do that? He can't jump back in, right? No, no, he did too.

He's not the same guy anymore.

Right?

He's not the same guy anymore. Doesn't have the energy scandals. That guy, if you could go back in a time machine and grab that Bill Clinton and run him today, he wins. When? And it makes sense.

What if there was a younger son, Clinton that was a spitting image of Bill, and Monica Lewinsky was the running mate? Is there ever a world or is that two in the simulation?

It's two in the simulation. That would be too strange.

Be too strange. But what if she came out and her policies were great and she had to say it to my face, but she goes and she made jokes about, like, and, you know, we're gonna swallow the competition. I don't know.

She, you know, well, the problem was she didn't swallow. Right? That's all I got in the dress.

Oh, that's right. All right, we'll clean up all the mess.

Well, maybe just.

We'll clean up every dress and mess. I don't know.

Yeah, maybe she just wanted to keep it for sure. Yeah.

This is just a soft pitch. I didn't say this was a great idea.

No, it's a. I see where you're.

Going with it, though.

It's nuts that that's what we used to get for choices. Yeah, like, they made sense when you.

Saw Arnold in the mix. Cause I feel like, at least for me, that was. Cause I wasn't, you know, around, obviously, for the Reagan stuff, but, like, to the. Arnold was my first taste of, like, oh, anybody can do you know what I'm saying?

Like, how was Ronald Reagan when he became president?

Right?

I mean, it doesn't make sense to us, but if you were someone who grew up during that time when he was a movie star.

Yeah.

It's like, you know, Dennis Quaid being the president. Yeah, yeah. And he's playing Reagan.

Oh, yeah. Same gal that did his makeup, does my Phil stuff.

Oh, that's wild.

She's a goat. Jen Espino.

It's just like, you know, the world has gotten real weird, man. It's real weird when we know what the trick is. Everybody's talking about the trick. I mean, there's all these videos of Kamala off script. Justin talk nearly as clearly. It's not what. But if you could just keep her on that script and focus everything else now. You're still running the show. You're still running the show just like you were for the last four years. Cause, like, no one even talks about Biden anymore. Like, literally, you don't even care that he's still the president.

Don't even know what he's doing.

Quite a few months.

Yeah.

Yeah. It's August, kids. September, October, November, December. No president. No president. And also, how bad does he deteriorate between now and then? Because clearly, that man is at the end of a long run.

The presidency took its toll on him.

I think it takes his toll on everybody because he ate quicker than.

Yeah, I mean, everybody.

Trump just come. He seemed fine. Yeah, he seemed fine. Four years didn't age him at all.

Yeah, wild.

Wild. They do just water off the back.

Well, you look at LeBron, he's fucking for playing 20 plus years. Some people just got a little extra juice.

LeBron spends millions of dollars on his body. He's never been out of shape. You know, he's Trump and LeBron don't.

Spend the same amount of money on their bodies.

Okay. You really can't compare the two. Also, it's not like the NBA ages you like that. No, it's the stress of knowing you could start a fucking nuclear war. The economy rides on you.

Why would you want that stress? Even running for president seems like the craziest thing to even. Just the campaigning. You see when people drop out after 45678 months. I'm like, God, what do you do now? Like, is that withdrawal or even that? Come down. It's like a shroom come down where you're like, fuck, now you're questioning everything. Cause you're like, you put everything into it. But then is there a weird, like, fuck, I didn't have enough to even get close, like. Or do you just go, all right, I gave it a shot and it wasn't my. Wasn't my time fucking.

I mean, depends entirely on the individual. I think it's just people just getting fed up that want to throw their self into that crazy race. But that thing is nuts.

You never had any of that, right? Like, through any part of your. Once you even like, yeah, it's wild. That's a different type of. There's a being wanting to be on stage and make people. Laughter because my buddy mind said this to me just about, you know, as we were talking about, you know, actors, whoever running for president. And he was like, I'll be great if there was a comedian that ran. And I'm like, yeah, but we don't. That's not our.

Al Franken probably could have run. Yeah, we could have run.

Yeah.

And he probably could have won. Yeah, he's. He's a really interesting. Yeah, he just got fucked. Yeah.

Was it that picture?

Yeah, yeah, there was a picture. He was trying to be funny, and it wasn't funny. It's just unfortunate.

Wrong place, wrong time, wrong hands, wrong.

Trying to be a comedian, trying to be funny, you know?

Oh, wait, real quick. I just had a thought when Dice came out and did his. Because I wanted to. That, first of all, talking to him about being back in the garden. You're just saying, just being funny or whatever. And I. Watching him do his hickory dickory joke at the garden again was wild, dude. And hearing him talk about being back, there was so, that's a. There's so many small things in between the entire garden experience that I was like, I want to not ever forget this because seeing him even just be there, I was like, that's crazy.

Well, dice was kind of on the outs with the comedy community. It was. To me, it was the dumbest thing I'd ever seen. It was real weird because he did MTV, and he got banned for life from MTV for telling jokes. I forget what the jokes were.

In the poly area or no.

Yeah, it was kind of around that time, maybe a little after Pauly was off of MTV, but, um, he had these jokes. I forget even what he was joking about. Like tampons or something. No. You know, I don't even know what the fuck he was joking around about.

It was perfect.

But it was Andrew Dice Clay. You asked the dirtiest comedian of all time to do a set.

Yeah.

And then you got mad when he does the kind of jokes that Andrew Dice Clay does.

Right?

Do you even fucking watch his shit? No dice rules.

They heard he was popular, and they just were like, get the guy.

I don't.

Who everyone's watching.

I don't know what the fuck they thought. If they thought he was going to do something different because he was on MTV, I don't know what they thought. But anyway, they banned him for life. And there was a lot of comedians that came out against him. A lot of comedians said that they thought his act was sexist and racist and. Yeah, it was. But it was a character. He was like, there's a man. His name is Andrew Silverstein, and there's this character, Andrew Dice Clay. And the whole idea was like that some stupid people like him. Stupid people like a lot of things, but smart people like him, too, because it's jokes. Cause he's being hilarious, saying the most ridiculous shit. And for whatever fucking reason he was on the outs, he wasn't respected by a lot of comedians. It was real weird. It was disrespected. And it was like, I get it if you don't like that kind of comedy, but it's like, who are you to decide what's good? Like, I don't think that way, but I think it's funny when people say things that way.

Yeah.

Like, I'm not really mad at Billy Joel. I think he's awesome. But when Holtzman was shitting on Billy Joel, I loved him.

Couldn't get enough.

Yeah, it was amazing.

So nobody shits on Billy Joel. So it was like, that's also why it's funny. Like, every. You gotta hit him and hug him, dude. Everybody has to be fucked with. I'm sorry. You know, and there's loving degrees, obviously. Like, you know, if somebody's. I don't know, again, like jokes. There's. There's. I mean, some of the jokes I've had with friends who have been really bad hospital, bedridden. And, like, that's changed their entire outlook on stuff. Like, you know, like, you gotta be.

Able to joke around about.

Yeah, dude, it's a real superpower. It's. It's really. I mean, even some.

From.

Some of this Phil's stuff, which is so silly, dude. Some of these messages, like, messages I get are wild about people. This kid I met in Jersey during the stress factory. You ever do the stress factory? All the time. Vinny Brand. So I'm doing these shows. This kid comes up, and he's like, my mom has cancer. Has four months to live. We've been watching your Phil stuff is all that she wants to watch, and it makes her smile. So that's our thing now. And he starts bawling, and I got all choked up, and it was like, just more and more of that happened in the last few years, and not just of that stuff, just.

Dude, comedy's medicine.

It's wild, Joe.

It's medicine. It really is.

It's medicine for people, because I think we get so. And I know I'm guilty of this. Like, a lot of us, when you're getting going, you're so. You're thinking, you know. Yeah. About the show and making people laugh, and I'm present, and I'm afterwards chatting with people and taking it in. But those. Now that we have this opportunity to receive messages like that or hear it live in the face, like that is. It's wild.

Amazing.

Yeah. It really makes me so even more lucky to, like, be a part of. And you look at something like Kiltoni, it's like. And be. Having to be global. There's people in probably Beirut. They're having a shit day that, like, saw fucking Hans Kim. And they're like, I always want to see Hans Kim in the garden or whatever their dream was, you know?

But, yeah, it's. It's. It really is like a kind of medicine. It is for me, for sure. If someone makes me laugh, I feel way better.

When did you start getting, like, love?

Like, what I wanted to say, though, before I forgot because I was going, going. So dice is embraced now by this class of comedians to this group of comedians that are coming out. Dice was one of my heroes when I was 19 years old. I mean, I was laughing so hard at his. I was in my car in front of my house with this girl I was dating. I was 19. We were listening to dice on a cassette. We were just sitting in the front seat of my car, just laughing. It was so funny. I couldn't believe how funny it was. And it was just listening to it on a cassette.

Yeah.

You know, and then as I became, you know, a comedian, headliner, and traveler, got on tv, all the stuff, and became friends with dice, and then. I really like some comedians don't like dice. I was like, this is. This doesn't even make sense to me. What are you guys talking about? Like, the guy does legitimate performance art on the street. He does for no money. He. He plans it out. He strategizes, and he makes these videos of him stumbling into people and telling them, you want. You wanted the picture. You wanted the picture with me. They have no idea who the fuck he is. And it's genius. It's genius performance art. The guy does not get the credit that he deserves, and it's.

He's really.

He's a great guy.

Yeah.

Just for whatever reason, there's this weird time period where comedians hate, and I don't understand that. Doesn't make any sense to me. And he was. I think he got too big, too, because he was the first guy to ever sell out arenas, right? He was the first guy that was doing those. Like, he did Madison Square guard, multiple nights, sold out. You know, he does every. He did Nassau Coliseum, so it was a classic.

Got so big, people just want to kick him off the mountain.

I think there's a little bit of that for sure, because there's no comedians before him that was doing arenas, right. And he was doing a different thing because he was doing this thing where everybody knew the jokes and they wanted to say it with him. What's in the bowl, bitch? And the fucking thousands of people.

Yeah, come on.

It's like a rock band. You're seeing a band play your favorite song.

Yep.

So he had the rhymes, man. The rhymes. You could not go wrong with those rhymes. And, you know, he's dressed in a fucking giant, glittery biker outfit. It's fucking bad.

I did not like a little bit of that.

It's fun. It's like, there's all kinds of comedy. You can love that and still love Patton, Oswald. I think he's funny, too. It's like all kinds of stuff is funny, man. Duncan Trussell's hilarious. Everybody's different. It's okay sometimes.

Yeah.

But it's just this. This class of comedians. Great. Gets that. This group of indians gets.

Yeah.

Gets just be funny. It's all bullshit unless you're funny.

And another fun thing about Caltoni is that it's like, you know, the. The audience that has cultivated it's putting, you know, having dice on like that is like people who may or may not have fully been educated on Andrew will now be like, oh, fuck. And then go back and do a deep dive.

And then these kids have no idea even existed.

Yeah.

Okay. Because they're 20.

Yeah.

You know, they're 20 years old.

Yeah. They don't see.

Born in 2004, son. That is crazy. You already had navigation in your car. And those kids were born. Oh, yeah. And so they don't know what the fuck is going on. Who's that guy? Why is every clapping?

Yeah.

And you got to become a comedy historian. Historian. And you got to go, oh, dice rules. And then listen to the day the laughter died. You want to be a real dice fan? You listen to the day the laughter died. It's 2 hours long. Okay. Rick Rubin produced it.

Oh, my God.

2 hours long of him just popping into dangerfields with no material and bombing and, oh, yeah, on purpose. On purpose in the height of his stardom. Okay, this guy's selling out arena, and he decides to do a two disk special of him bombing on purpose. On purpose.

I love that.

I mean, no material, dude. No material. No, no bombed on purpose or bombed on purpose. Look, if he wanted to, he could have done his act and he would have crushed. They would be, oh, my God, it's dice. He decides to bomb on purpose. Dude. It's the craziest thing. Yeah, because the kind of ego you have to have to be able to bomb on purpose on a cd and then put it out. No Internet, by the way. This is all in his crazy head, right? This is not a thing you do because, you know, you want to impress people on Reddit. This is a wild thing he did as an artist. It really is a wild artist move. And this is where I think he doesn't get enough credit because everybody thinks, oh, he's just the dirty guy. He's the guy who tells racist jokes. No, no, no, no.

Innovative.

Pay attention to what this fucking crazy person is doing. And the thing he does now, he's not trying to get people to, like, know who he is. He's just making this the most uncomfortable video and the people who are fans of it, like he's a fucking maniac just walking up to this crazy chinese lady.

Oh, yeah.

He wanted to picture like they don't know what the fuck to do. And he's big and he's imposing. He's got these crazy sunglasses on. He looks like he might be an insane person. You're worried about your safety. Yeah, yeah, it's hilarious. He's a fucking. He's a genius.

It's inspiring to see somebody like that that has. That doesn't lose their zealous zest for the funny. Like, even in the green room at the garden, he was doing videos with everybody, and he came up and he goes, Phil, do a video for me.

Where I come up and you go.

Hey, I'm talking to my fans. And I go. I go, what? He goes, no, no, but in character right now, you're Adam. Do Phil. So then he comes up and he goes, hey, doc. And I go, Andrew, I'm talking to my friends. Will you fuck off? And he goes, jesus fucking Christ, this guy. And he puts it back and he goes, I thought I liked this guy. And then he's like. And he goes over to Sal and does a little video. And, yeah, he just was like, he around, man. It was like. And that's what the, that's what the backstage vibe should be. You know, dude, he used to do.

These little sketches at the store, and he would do it with a vhs handheld camera. He'd do sketches at the store. And I asked him one night, I go, what are you doing these for? He goes, four. It's like, what am I doing? Great answer. I'll put it together someday.

Yeah, yeah.

He was just having fun. Yeah, just having fun.

Oh, the first time he brought me up in the or at the store, Jeff Scott was over there on the keys, and he goes, he goes, jeff who we got next? And I'd met him maybe three times, but didn't expect him, whatever. But he goes, and jeff goes, Adam Ray. And he goes, oh, I love this guy. And, you know, we didn't know each other. And he goes, this guy. You've seen him here, you've seen him there. Keep it going for my friend Alan Gray. And then I get up, and then I get up and he goes, sorry ahead, dude. Right? Like, to me. And I just laughed, and I was like, yeah, just get razzed by him. Yeah, he's.

I would love when he would go on stage in the OR, and there'd be like, ten people in the crowd.

Yeah.

And he would just fuck with them.

What a treat to get to see that fucking guy.

Look at this fucking guy with his pants. It looks like he got attacked by a fucking mountain lion. How much did you pay for those pants, you fucking moron? It's like this. I would call it mean dice.

Yeah.

That was my favorite Dice to watch in the. Or would he do mean dice?

They're like, dice is roasting me. Get there out of here.

They were dying. They were dying. It was funny. Yeah, it was like, it sounds mean when I'm saying it, but mean. Dice was hilarious.

He. He's been to the mothership. Yeah.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

He loves it. Yes.

I'm just happy. I was always just, would you freak me out to become his friend? Because I was that one for you.

That's just crazy that as far as, like, in the business, realize I was young man.

I was friends with him and my twenties.

Wow.

And I was standing in the back of the car. He's the reason why I started going on the road, because I was standing in the back of the comedy stories, like, you should do the road. And I said, why? I'm here at the store. He goes, yeah, I know, but you know what? You don't want to be attached to Hollywood. These fucking jerk offs. He's like, you can make all the money that you need on the road. He goes, and you get us. Get an audience. He goes, you're a funny guy. Should do the road. And I was like, I should do the road. So I start doing the road before.

The fuck out of here opened you.

Up to the idea 100%. For years, I was mostly just doing the store, and I would do the laugh factory and I'd do the improv. I was just doing Hollywood sets. And occasionally I would do something else where it was a long set, but it was a little awkward because I was mostly doing 15 minutes sets. And so then I started headlining again. I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, you have to do this. You have to do hours. You have to do like 4 hours on a weekend, like two on Friday, two on Saturday. But it's like, the problem was I always had, like, 1ft in and 1ft out, because what 1ft in was like, I was always working on television. So that was like, most of my day. Most of my day on news radio was working on the tv show. Like, it dampens your enthusiasm for doing the thing that got you to the dance. But I want set a news radio once. And the producer said to me, why are you still doing stand up? You're an actor now. I was like, oh, no.

Oh, shit.

I was just like, this whole cycle of needing people to pick you for something, I was like, yuck, get me out of this. Yeah.

Why are you deciding what I should be to people?

And it was at that same time where dice told me, you should do the road at the same time. So it was like a fortuitous universe convergence of this guy that I couldn't believe I was friends with. It was just weird to me.

Would those news radio days be so long that sometimes you wouldn't want to go up into a spot? Or was it.

I always did it. I never canceled. I always did it even though I was exhausted.

It was your reward, too, right? You were looking forward to it. Like, I can get through the day so I can get on stage almost.

It was a little bit of that. But it was also, those were my people. You know, the comedians were my people. I had to be around the freaks. I had to be around the weirdos, the Holtzman's, you know, I became friends at Holtzman in 94.

Wow.

Yeah. So I had to be around those guys. Like, those are my compatriots.

It is wild how quickly you find that out that you are in the right spot. I remember when I first started going around the store in what, 2000? I started sampling in 2007. So I was right around there and just going open mics and waiting for 4 hours and tommy telling me I'm going up and then not going up and then being like. And he's like, well, maybe come back tomorrow. And then just being around. Even if I didn't go up, I was around for 4 hours and I didn't just sit and wait. I like, milled around. And that's where I met tony and all these guys that you're like, oh, cool, you're doing this, too. And that was the connecting over. That is an immediate bond that's just like once you kind of lock eyes with someone like, oh, you're trying to do this, too. Unspoken respect. And then also like, oh, cool, somebody that like, oh, we both didn't go up, or you got up. Oh, cool. Yeah, well, dude, next time maybe do this. And then, oh, where are you going now? You know, it's late. Like, I'm fucking, I'm jazzed from watching 4 hours of comedy and not going up.

And I feel like it's sad if I just go to bed. So, well, let's go fucking play video games and smoke weed and talk and just talk about our experience of that night.

And there are wild times that you don't appreciate at the moment because you're worried. You don't know if the future is ever going to be real. You don't know if you're ever going to be a real comedian, you know, because you don't. You want to do it. You're obsessed with it, but it's hard to even get on stage, it's hard to even take the first steps towards the dream. So it's like, even though it's an amazing time and you're going to look back on it so fondly forever this time out here, it's crazy at the time. You just don't know. And that not knowing and not being able to control your destiny as a young person is one of the most terrifying and paralyzing feelings because you don't know if it's going to happen in whatever you're trying to. To do. You're just. You're a fog of, you know, hope and dreams and. I don't know. I don't know. I can't see the future. I don't know if it's ever going to work out.

The uncertainty that is a constant cloud over your head, but also the appropriate amount of delusion and enthusiasm for wanting to make it right or make it. I mean, just wanting to be able to work in this world.

Well, I was very fortunate that I'm a very determined person because I was terrible when I started stand up. Yeah. I mean, occasionally I had some good jokes, but I was bad at putting it together, but I didn't know how to write. I didn't know. I just knew, like, what I liked, and I knew that I could make people laugh in inappropriate ways. I just couldn't figure out how to get that.

Were you comfy on stage?

No. Yeah, it took a while. Took a while for me to be comfortable on stage, which is so crazy. I was so nervous about it, but I had fought, like, 100 times. It's just so weird that, like, getting kicked in the head didn't make me as nervous. Talking to people, that's so wild to me. It's so crazy. There was a lot of fear that came with the fighting, that didn't come with stand up. Like, all throughout the day. Like, you have massive anxiety all throughout the day when sparring days. You'd have massive anxiety when you're going to a tournament. And that's when I became funny, because I would make everybody laugh when we were all freaking out, because we were, like, on a bus driving to New York together to go get kicked in the face and trying to laugh. I would just make jokes because it's very likely that one of us might get knocked on Congress, you know, I'd seen a few of my friends get knocked unconscious, and it's a terrifying feeling. I saw a friend of mine get ax kicked in the face, and he was really never the same guy again.

After that, he was a really good fighter. And we went up to Canada, and he fought this guy named Jersey Long. And Jersey Long was this national champion from Canada who was nasty. He was nasty. And he caught my friend in the head with an ax kick and ko'd him. And I didn't think my friend should been fighting him. I didn't think my friend was good enough at that point and experienced enough. He was good. He was very talented, but he didn't have enough experience on a national level. And this guy was at the peak of his form, and he fucking caught him so hard, and it was so horrible watching him crumple and go unconscious. And I was like, God damn. It was one of the worst kos I'd ever seen live from, like, a friend getting ko'd. It's like, God damn.

Make you really just reevaluate.

Oh, it made me a bunch of times. Made me reevaluate koing people made me reevaluate it. Watching people snoring on the ground and knowing that could have easily been you. Easily could have been you. Easily, you know, easily. There was definitely guys that could have knocked me into the shadow realm. They just didn't. I just got lucky. I got lucky, and I never really got knocked out until my last kick boxing fight. I get tko'd. I was still conscious. It was. I was okay. I got rocked. I got hit with a left hook and dropped. My legs just disappeared. My leg just went weep. Go away.

What's that like?

It's weird. It never happened before. I've been rocked before in the gym, but I'd never been dropped where I was really exhausted. It was my third fight of the night, too.

Cause even that's a crapshoot, right? Like when you're getting kicked in the head and you go down or whatever it is that knocks you out, it's still right. There's always the, oh, a couple centimeters to the left, and that would eventually.

This guy caught me perfect on the jaw. And I think I had my mouth open because I think was tired, because it was, like I said, it was the third fight of the day, and I remember being exhausted because I would get sick a lot of times before fights because I would get nervous. So I get real nervous. And your immune system drops because you're freaking out all the time. Yeah. And also you're cutting weight. I'd be cutting my calories down because I was trying to compete in different weight class.

Those nerves don't enter in the comedy like before your live special, which I told you a couple days ago, but it was awesome.

Thanks.

And also, I'm just. I love doing it different, man. When Harlan Williams did a fucking special outdoors in front of animals, I was like, fuck, yeah. You know, doing something different. But the live thing is so not guaranteed, man. You're prepped, you're ready. You've done live. But, like, still. You're. You're still. It's still a new challenge, right?

I said no to it at first, right? I was like, I don't want to do that. Fuck that.

We'll put you over the top. And what. And what were the nerves like? That were.

Well, what put me over the top was. I was like, why? Are you scared, pussy? This is like, what do you like to do? You like to do things, scare you, do this thing, you fucking bitch. Yeah, that's exactly what I thought to myself, because I said no. I was on the phone with my manager, and she was said, netflix wants to do a live special. I was like, fuck that. I go, I don't want to do that. No, no, no, tell him no. Maybe I'll do a special. But at that time, I wasn't even thinking about doing a special. I was just working on comedy. I was just having fun and just doing comedy. And then being at my own club, it was fucking wonderful. And then I was like, why are you being such a. Okay? As I drove when I said no, and then I. When I got home, I think, or maybe the next morning I called her up, I said, don't tell no yet. Let me think about it. And then the next day I said, I'm gonna do it.

Conversations with other people about it. Or you just kind of had a. I didn't tell anybody a car pep talk or what?

No, no. Just my own head was like, this is what you're supposed to do. Stupid dude. Yeah, just do something. Do something that scares the shit out of you. Cuz that scares the shit out of you. But I just realized, like, I'm having great shows. I know that I'm having the materials tight. It's funny. I'm like, what am I worried about? I'm not gonna be able to. I do it every night. Just do it like a regular night. And I do everything live. I do the UFC live. I do. I used to do YouTube videos. We used to do live. Used to stream the podcast live. I've done so many shows live. Like, what am I worried about? And I'm like, are you worried about fucking up? Okay, well, don't think about fucking up. Think about doing it the best way you can do it. And the best way I could do it was like, to over prepare. I prepared like crazy.

Yeah.

I was in. At one point in time, I was doing 6 hours a week. So I was doing three nights, two shows a night, headlining, you're ready. At that point, after, like an hour and 15 minutes of other guys killing. An hour and 15, an hour and a half sometimes. One time it was an hour and 45 minutes because the protect our parks guys were all with me.

Holy shit.

So we all went out. We were blazed. We were all so drunk. We were so drunk. When we got there, we hopped out of the limo and ran upstairs. And it was ridiculous. At one point, Norman got so drunk during the podcast that he went backstage, threw up, and then went to sleep. So you know that backstage area?

Oh, yeah.

Like, right behind.

Real cozy.

Yeah, he was sleeping up there. Yeah, out cold. So he goes up, and then, you know, Ari's hammered. He goes up. Brian. Brian Simpson was there. Tony was there. Like, it was a giant crazy show, so. But all those shows, when you're going up that late, it's like running with weights on. You gotta keep that momentum going. You got to keep things tight. So all I did was just over prepare. I just really listened to a lot of recordings. I watched the video from Friday night because we recorded Friday night too.

Oh, great.

So I watched that video. I was writing bits out that I knew, but I was writing them out word for word on an I notebook over and over and again.

And when you're over prepared, I'm assuming, I don't know if you riffed anything in the moment, but I feel like when you are that in the pocket, you're like, all right, now I feel comfy to shoot from the hip.

Yeah. You could just do a show like a regular show, like, how you would do it. That's how I thought. I'll just go. I go. I want to over prepare, but I just want to do it like a regular show. Yeah, but it's also a regular show in a theater, which was odd because I had only done my club for a year and a half. I hadn't done any other venues.

Yeah.

For a whole year and a half before Friday night, I had not done any other big places.

Wow.

Yeah. For a long ass time. I think the last time I did a big place was probably one of the arenas that I did. And then I went to the club, and then I stayed in the club for, like, a year and a half.

So next special you have to be, what, blackout drunk just to mix it up?

No, I think I'll do a live one again. Yeah, it was fun. It was fucking terrifying, but fun, like, in the moment. It wasn't terrifying at all. Yeah, I was just in the moment, and all I was doing was just concentrating on staying in the moment and enjoying myself and having a good time and doing it the best I can do it and being, you know, real. I was so prepared because I knew, like, what my transitions were going to be. I done that set in that order for, like, three weeks. I was like. I was ready.

Yeah, we're going to live stream these Phil theater shows. I think just taking a, you know, a page out of the kill Tony book. It's like, why not if people. You know, because there's only a handful of theaters we're doing, but it's like, there's people, you know, you can reach way a bigger audience doing that. And, I mean, it's all the filters all unscripted, so it's like, there's a little more room for, you know, something, whatever, but I don't know.

Well, there's a lot, lot of room for it, but the most important thing.

You'Re like, actually don't.

The most important thing is that's what people like.

Yes.

They like that you're going without a name.

Right.

They like it.

Yeah.

That's why they like the live kill Tony's. That's why they like all this stuff.

Yeah. Anything could happen.

Yeah, look, kill Tony at its base, the whole thing is there's no net. You know, it's like you're gonna go up. Some guy went up in master Square garden the first time he ever went on stage. Ever. Ever.

That's fucking so crazy.

Ever.

That's so crazy.

I mean, what a mind fuck.

Yeah.

That must be to walk out in front. And by the way, those people were harsh.

I was gonna ask you, how do you feel with, like, a joke in? They're like, so my mom is. My mom.

My mom's.

My mom's weird. They're like, fuck you, boo. Yeah, I mean, the boo's coming so quick. Sometimes.

Also, they're drunk. Okay. There's people out there. They've been ready for the show all day. They've been day drinking. They probably went to a pub, got fucked up.

Oh, in New York? Yeah.

Yeah. They're walking. And then they walked into this most iconic arena. Their favorite show. It's live. There's 16,000 people. They're fucked up. Let's go, Tych. And then some guys on stage, and it's not that good. You're like, boo.

I paid for this.

Especially in New York. Especially in New York. I know they're not polite. If it's going south, they're gonna let you know. But that's part of the fun, because when it goes great, they let you know, too. They're great Laughers. God damn. When they were laughing, they were laughing hard. It was a fun show. It was really fun. That weirdness of, like, it could go sideways. It could be awesome, but it's always gonna be funny.

Yeah.

And then you got the regulars, like, William Montgomery is a goddamn national treasure.

I can't get enough of him.

I truly drive him to death.

Me too, man.

He's so funny, dude. He's so fucking funny.

And he gives it. He's so. I love, too, when people are just so. He's such a kind guy, but he's so, like. He just commits fully, dude. And he's just always in the pocket, and he's always. That's a tough thing, too, is going on. Like, I've only been on his long panel or a 510 minutes bid, and it's, like, to go on for a minute, and then however long the interview part is, he's just always. He always delivers, I guess, which is.

He's. He's a character, right? He's this maniacal character, and you can get away with so much as that maniacal character.

I met his. He's got two brothers by what? Met one, and he goes, hi, my name's Vance. I think it was William's brother. And I was like, of course you are. Like, he just had all the. William, like, really just very intense.

Like, did you notice how William hugs you?

Oh, yeah.

He hugs you like, he might be stabbing.

He hugs you like a trump handshake. Like, he pulls you in, and then it's really weird. Like, he's stabbing you, actually. That's very tense.

Yeah, yeah, he might want to stab you.

What is that? That's just.

I don't know what it is. I've tried to relax him on it for several years now. Yeah, he just hugs you, and you're like, am I in trouble? Danger here?

Yeah, it's just we jumping out of a plane. Why are you holding on to me?

So, what a writing exercise that show is, to have to come up with a whole new minute every week.

Yeah.

That's bananas. Yeah, it's a bananas experience. I mean, it's such. It's such a crazy job. And to do it live in front of a crowd and then have it on YouTube. And if you bomb, it's on YouTube forever. It's like, that's the ballsiest shit you can do, man.

Let me ask you this. Would you ever go on like now that there have been, you know, I've gone on as a few characters. Shane going on doing, doing Trump. If there was ever a pitch to you from Tony or whoever, cuz you're good actor, man. And if. Would there ever be a world if somebody was like, dude, Joe, let's get you up and some to come on.

And do like an impression that was.

Like a wild person. Not even like a long panel thing, but like a. Yeah, I would do that like a fake person, you know.

Have to be a person that I could actually do an impression of.

Okay.

Because I'm not that good. I only have a few. Like I can do dice and I can Joey, but it's only a few.

But what about an original?

There's a guy named Earl Strickland. This is my best impression. My best impression is a professional pool player. Let's go for real.

His voice or just the way he is.

A video of me doing an impression of him. I sound exactly like him.

Awesome.

And I say the crazy, he's a genius, genius pool. One of the greatest pool players of all time. But like all people that are incredible at what they do, they're nuts. Yeah, almost all people that are really, really good at things are out of their fucking mind. Oh yeah, and he's out of his fucking mind. And he's famous for things like he puts like ankle weights on his wrists when he plays and tapes up his fingertips and puts like shooting goggles on. Meanwhile, he's like one of the greatest pool players that's ever lived.

Wow.

So he has all these like gadgets and shit. He does. But I do this impression him play it for me because you got to hear him talk. Mister Earl Strickland, ladies and gentlemen. That's my buddy Justin.

How are you doing tonight?

Pool is a beautiful game played by ugly people. Okay, first of all, how are you gonna play pool if you're not properly equipped? Where's your beekeepers outfit? You don't have no ass weights?

I don't see you in waiters.

What are you doing? You have goggles on? No. Then get the fuck off the table. This is.

Wow.

You gotta listen to the. Doesn't sound like you listen to the guy. That's like, if that guy was fan. Yeah, I could do like a whole tour as him.

Oh, my God. That's your next chapter.

I could do a tour of pool halls.

Meet and greets with that, but.

That'S the only one I could do that good.

Well, here's the thing. Even that voice, I'm like, dude, that's a kill Tony guy. You see that guy? Come on.

Right? This is him. It's every week. Was just the best players in the world playing.

Bro, you nailed it.

I know how to do his voice. Played by a bunch of ugly people.

The stash, bro.

Yeah, he's a wizard now.

Is he. Is he so famous that, like, a biopic is in the works?

If something happened, they could do a biopic. Strickland. And I could play Earl Strickland. I can't play as good as Earl Strickland and not built like girl Strickland, but I could definitely do a neural Strickland impression.

Oh, my God.

He'd be so mad at me.

Have you. Wait, so you haven't you met him?

Yeah, yeah, met him. He was happy when I met him. I ran into him, and he was like, why are you picking on me? I'm a giant fan. It's the only way I could do.

An impression of you that good.

I'm a huge fan. And we became friends, like, friendly. But then I try to get him on the podcast, and he doesn't want to come on. He's mad at me for something.

Doing his voice. Keep fucking saying.

He's made a podcast saying that he, like, turned me down. Down. They didn't want to do my podcast. Oh, God. I'm only a fan.

Yeah.

I'm only telling. The only. I only joking around because I think you're awesome.

Is pool your man? How do I ask this question? Not vice number one, hobby number one. Like, if you had the ideal day, like a joint, a show, you know, maybe post show for however long and you're hanging, obviously. I know you like your dinners and whatnot, but, like, is pool your true. Like, you're in your happy place, then?

Just a. To me, it's like a game that's also a mind cleanser.

So there's certain social aspect of it, right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Social aspool. If you're hanging around a pool hall. For sure.

Yeah.

Also, it's like pool players are also obsessed with it the way you're obsessed with it. So you could talk about stuff.

Yeah.

You can't talk about with other people, like tip millimeter sizes and carbon fiber shafts and shit. Nobody wants to talk about that. But the pool players can't wait to talk about it. So you're talking about these weird assets, very particular aspects of this game. But while you're doing it, when you're just trying to concentrate on running out and just trying to concentrate on putting that cue ball perfect for the next ball, perfect for the next, you're thinking three balls ahead. You're plotting your lines, and you're going to. There's no room for anything else. There's no room for. Oh, I forgot to call that guy back. Oh, I got to do this. Oh, I got to do that. Oh, I didn't do this today. There's no room while you're shooting. Shooting. It's a mind cleanser. So all the things, should I do this? Should I do that? All that goes away. And it just cleans your mind down because it requires all of you to make a hard, especially on tight pockets. A long shot on tight pocket requires all of you to stay in line. Have your stroking arm follow through smooth. Have the proper grip on the cue where you're not gripping it too tight.

You got it. Like you're cradling it like a little baby bird. Like a little baby birdhouse your hand, and you're just letting that q weight and the acceleration from your arm push through that ball, and you want to watch that spin as it collides with the other ball and moves perfectly to the next ball. That requires all of you. So while you're doing that, it cleans your head out.

Dude, Strickland, you're just making me realize is like, bob Ross for pool. The way that you described all that, I was like, dude, that all made sense. You just basically broke down pool in the most beautiful way. And it really is. There's so much finesse. There's so much, like, strategy. There's so much. There's athleticism involved.

There's a little bit of body control. I wouldn't call it athleticism, but you have to have execution. You have to be able to execute the shots. And that requires, like, a finesse that's learned over thousands and thousands and thousands of shots.

I thought I was going to be a pro pool player at one point. My mom. My mom was a single mom. Four jobs, ran an assisted living homes activities. That was one of the jobs, like, bringing our school choirs and then just coming up with games for. And so I'd go there for a lot of times after school, and there was a guy that was like, I don't know, the fucking janitor. Who knows if this guy even, like, worked there. But all of a sudden I'd always be upstairs with him playing pool and my sister and, and he just, like, was so good and would, like, show us trick shots. And I got so into it. It was one of those things you got so into for like three, four years. And then, I don't know, girl.

Yeah, but if you got someone who's good that showed you how to do it, right?

Yeah. I always think back every now. Not always, but think back to like, oh, man, what if I, like, had really made that a thing? Because I. I mean, who knows where I was? But all I know is I was playing, like, anything as a kid, right? I was playing all the time to where I was like, oh, man, what if that was like, that have been crazy.

If I knew you from the pool instead of the comedy world, that would be crazy.

I know, right?

Yeah. Then you probably would have had this thing in your head. Like, I think I could do comedy. Oh, yeah, I think I could do it. You know that thing that you had in your head before you ever started doing it, like that little voice. It's like, maybe you should do comedy.

That was me on the bus impersonating, doing ace Ventura scenes. So I was a fat kid and then I was getting teased all the time.

Look at you. Handsome bastard. Fat kids.

Right?

I'm trying to get the guy in it too. Remember the fat kid? It comes back buff and handsome and in it too. Well, you don't remember? I watched it the other day in the, in it one. The chubby kid.

Yes.

Cut up by the bully.

Yeah.

Remember that?

Yeah.

Then in it too. Now he's a stud. He's got like a six pack. Beautiful, man. Like something happened.

Oh, yeah, we're still. Yeah, you got a glow up. I appreciate it. Yeah, it was, I was getting teased all the time, so it was fat kid. And then I started making friends laugh and they were like, oh, you're the funny kid. So now I was like, oh, this is making them laugh, which feels good. And then it's also changing the way their looking at me, which I felt like a crazy superpower. I mean, it was 6th grade and I was just, you know, I just was like, oh, I gotta chase this then. So then it was, you know, but I was doing it naturally. I wasn't going out of my way to do it. It just came like I was. I'd watch H. Ventura. Then I was like, oh, I want to, you know, do that to a couple friends on the bus. And now I'm like telling stories. And then I would prank call Seattle sports radio stations and record it on, like, my first Sony and play it for friends on the bus. And they'd be like, just seeing them laugh was fun. Or prank call. One of the first things I did was there was a girl in our class that everybody had a crush on, and me, too, but she was like, you have bigger tits than me.

Why would I like you? And so I called my buddy, who she ended up dating, and pretended to be her as I called him with other friends. Kind of diabolical.

Jesus. You could do an impression of her that's that good.

In fourth grade. Yeah. Remember voice? I didn't sound like this in fourth grade.

That's insane, dude. Even back then you were doing that.

Yeah. Impersonating teachers and whatnot.

Yeah, that's hilarious.

But the chasing of it was, which is why I was telling somebody this the other day, Jim Carrey, when he came through, when he was scouting from dine up here at the comedy store, and I had never met him. And he's walking through, and Adam Meeket's walking him through. And that movie was so influential, me, Jim Carrey in general, but how much I was involving it in making people laugh. He walks.

Was it a movie or was it a television show?

Ace Ventura.

No, no, the comedy store thing.

Oh, television show. Showtime.

Right? Yeah. Okay.

So he's coming through the back bar. I think he was going to do roast battle. And I'm staying in the back bar or the main bar of the store, and he walks through, and Adam's like, hey, Adam, it's Jim Carrey. And I go. And jim goes, okay, man. And keeps walking. I was like. And rob the bartender was like, dude, you fucking. What was that? And I was like, I couldn't communicate. And then I put it all together, and I was like, oh, dude. Like, I'm sure subconsciously in that moment, I was like, oh, dude, this guy, you know, whether it was all about it or not, like, me just telling you all the stuff about the movie and influencing me and. And giving me the confidence to, like, want to try to make people laugh.

He was your jesus. Yeah.

I mean, in a weird way. I mean, I think so, man. Put me on the track to try, and now that's my life. I don't know.

Right.

Maybe I'm getting too heady about it.

No, you're not getting too heady. No, I appreciate what you're saying. That's exactly what it is. Like, he is the guy that started the spirit spark, right? He's the guy that inspired I think so impressions of him. Getting laughs is what got you down the road.

Yeah.

Yeah. So, you meeting him was a freak out.

Yeah.

He should be used to freak outs by now. Like, you're fucking Jim Carrey, dude. Yeah, but I bet he gets bugged out by people that don't act normal around him.

Sure.

You know, means probably so tired of it. Yeah.

Maybe he appreciated that. And then Adam later was like, dude, you fucking froze in front of Jim Carrey.

That's a great idea, dude. He was right.

I don't know. He's probably coming back. You saw Santino. He'll be back. He hasn't been here in 30 years. Now he's definitely not coming back. And you fucking stared at him. Weird. Shut up. Shut up. Adam egg.

That's a perfect Adam egg. But you know, those guys. I think that being that famous for that long is like, radiation poisoning.

I think so.

You know, I think you have to have a very unique constitution to live near Chernobyl.

Oh, yeah.

And I think that a guy that's that famous for that long probably goes a little while.

Yeah.

And they also, like, became insane, I think, when he was doing Andy Kaufman. He became Andy Kaufman for, like, a year.

I know. I need to be taking a pay. Like, what if that happens with, to me with this filth thing?

No.

Yeah, I know.

I can separate you. Separate you? You're talking to me before you went on stage.

Imagine, fuck. If I was just like, Joe, you excited for tonight's show?

I would understand. I'd go, yeah. Phil, what's up? Told Jay I said hi.

I should have done it. Dude, you, uh. That coat you were wearing that night, we're like. You were? I mean, it was incredible, dude. And you look like, with this, your shades and that jacket.

I just wanted to be ridiculous because we're at Madison Square Garden.

I love it, dude.

Yeah.

You were adding to the show.

Yeah. It would just, to me, felt like, this is so big. I should dress. Preposterous. I feel preposterous.

Last where you get a jacket like that?

Nordstrom's, let's go. Shout out to Nordstrom's.

Let's go.

I got a. It's a. It's not. No animals died in the making of that jacket.

Muppets, maybe.

A few seals probably choked to death on the oil that spilled out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, is that even eco friendly? When people have, like, fake fur, I guess they think that it causes less death. But I wonder if, overall it does. I wonder if, like, what is the amount of life lost through the petrochemical production of nylon versus beaver trapping? How many things lives get lost because of the actual production of fake leathers and plastics and chemicals? How many things go into the ocean? How many things die because they get poisoned by the runoff? Where are these things made?

Let's ask Siri.

Where is this stuff made? Is this stuff made in some third world country that doesn't have any environmental regulations and they're just dumping this waste into the river, which we know has happened is like. But you feel better cause you're wearing a fake fur? I'm not sure.

I know.

I am not sure. I think we might be better off just using real fur.

Maybe.

I bet we are. Yeah. But it's just cruel. The idea of killing an animal just for its skin is just cruel.

Pretty wild.

It's wild, but, I mean, we kill them for food. It weird. Be like, there's places that are fur free zones now. Okay, right. Like, states, like, places you can't sell furs. I bet you could still wear them. It is America. Yeah, but here's the thing. You can't sell fur. I think you can't sell fur in parts of Los Angeles. See if that's true.

Sounds about right.

I think they put a ban on selling fur, but you can still sell leather. Do you know how fucking insane you are when you have animal skin on all of everything? You have animal skin on the inside of your car. You have animal skin on your shoes. You have animal skin on your belt. You have animal skin in your wallet. You have animal skin everywhere. If it's better, it's leather upholstered. Yeah, look. Look at this beautiful leather upholstery. It's better if it has leather. So you have animal skin everywhere as long as there's no fuzz on it. Fur sales are illegal in California. California 2019 State of California the first state to ban fur states Governor Gavin Newsom signed into law AB 44, which bans the sales and manufacturing of new clothing and accessories made from fur. I get it. I get people wanting to be kind and not kill an animal for its fur. I totally understand where you're coming from, but it is a little weird that we're okay with leather. Yeah, it's a little weird.

Yeah.

And don't ban leather, you motherfuckers. That's not my point. My point is shut the fuck up and let people do whatever they want to do. Like, I don't. I don't think you should ban furs. I don't want one. I'd rather have a fake one. You know?

What do you think about the text?

I feel bad.

Yeah.

But I mean, but I get it. If I was living in a place where they couldn't, like, where did it all come from? Right? It came from. That was the only way to stay alive. People wore big ass fur coats because it protects you. They don't wear fur coat. The Inuits don't wear fur coats because it looks cool. They want to stay alive.

Yeah, it's warmth.

Yeah. That's all it is. It's the best way to stay alive. Especially when you're getting it from these animals that you're killing.

Yeah.

Like, that's literally how you get your clothes and your food. It's from these animals. That's the origin of it all. Now it's like a weird thing because you're wearing it to show everyone you're a baller. You come in in a full length mink coat. What's up? Play up?

Yeah. Like my ostrich hat.

Yeah, you just. You have feathers on your cap. Some exotic bird that lost its fucking life. So you can look like a pimp and you just.

Just to go to the clippers gaming.

Style, wearing gold all over your alligator pussy rings, diamonds, carved out of the ground by child labor, you know, and you just glitter in and shining.

You have to. You have to walk in like that, by the way.

Yeah. If you got a fur coat, even.

The coat's doing the talking for you.

But my friend Bill had one. I put one on once. I was like, oh, my God, this thing's amazing. We were in aspen and he had a mink coat. I go, what is that? What is that coat? Let me try that on. I put it on, I was like, oh, my God. Wow, this is amazing.

Yeah.

It insulates you so perfectly. It's like pimps.

Pimps made mint coats popular, is that.

I don't know who made mint coats popular, but they're popular with rich ladies.

Rich ladies, yeah, it's rich ladies.

And then it's like, I think pimps caught on, like, because it wasn't. When a lot of Joe Namath didn't know. Namath, like, famously wear unique coat.

Yes.

Yeah. Balls are shit.

Baller shit. Yeah.

But back then, people didn't think twice because everybody's just trying to stay alive. They were just trying to not starve to death.

Right.

They didn't give a fuck about those animals. And once things get soft and sweet and people have started doing way better, you know, in society, you know, it's like you don't have to worry about starving to death. Everybody's like, hey, why are we killing these little animals for their fur?

Live family. What do you think about the taxidermy stuff? Like the full on people that have, like, rooms with just.

I don't do that with animals. I hunt because I like what's called a european mount. And a european mount. Is the skull with the antlers on it just the actual skull? Yeah. I know what it looked like. I don't want a fake representation of it on my wall. It's basically a doll. First of all, the people that do it are amazing. And the art of it is pretty incredible. Incredible because it is an art form. What you're doing is you're using this mold, right? So you have a mold that's roughly the size of the torso of the animal you killed. They have a photograph of the animal that you killed, and then they take the skin from the animal that you killed and mold it around this foam and do it so perfectly that it looks just like the animal. They put fake eyes and they do it all up, and it's got the antlers from the actual animal, and they've. They've made a fake version of this animal that you killed. I get it, I get it. But it's not for me.

Right. Also, I don't know, I feel like I would get pretty baked in my own house and have some. Some late night freakouts at some of these things that look super. Well, a buddy of mine has a full house of them. He's. His name's Doug, he lives in Jersey and. But he's into it for the artistic, like he says, it's beautiful. It's got this biggest. Jimmy, you don't have that thing I was going to show Joe, do you? The little trailer? So, Joe, I made this doc called Doug about my friend who was a lifeguard when he was 21, in the seventies, jumped into a pool in Jersey to save a kid who was faking drowning, and he ended up being paralyzed from the neck down. And his brother Brian, who was an accountant, quit doing that to save his brother mentally, physically, he was in the hospital, wanted to die. Was like, leave me in the pool. I don't want to live like this. He was a college football star, you know, going to be a lawyer. Lawyer, Brian, not only gets him physically fit and mentally stable to a place to where he wants to live, gets him so strong that he enters the Paralympics, ends up becoming the world champ, setting all the world records, gets on the COVID of a Wheaties box, travels the world with Michael Jordan, Joe Montana, Bo Jackson, speaking to people all over the world, becomes a criminal lawyer, helps get the disability act going.

And so I meet Brian, whos now a physical therapist to the stars in New York. And he goes, hes telling me about his brother. Hes like, dude, you got me. My brother, Jug.

He's incredible.

Come to New Jersey, meet my brother. You can hear him. It's good as your strict impression. And so I go to Jersey, and I see his place. He shows me all these pictures and videos of him with the pope and Christopher Reeve and Regis and Kathie Lee. And I'm like, holy shit, is this doc out already? Yeah, it's on YouTube. And I just. It's a 1 minute trailer.

Let's see the trailer. Yeah, let's see the trailer.

Thanks, brother. So I directed. It's the first time, the dug air story from the Wheaties cereal box to the electors. It was 1978, when Doug Eyre, as.

A lifeguard, dove into a pool to save a drowning boy.

When I dove in, this stand kicked back, and my head hit the bottom of the pool. He said, brian, I don't feel my legs.

I don't feel anything. I'm screaming to the guards, come on, come on.

My life, it like, ended and began.

Right at that moment. My brother, he goes, you're not going.

To get this corny arm.

And he would duct tape one pound wrist weights to my hand. They told me about wheelchair sports.

He goes out on the field, breaks the first world record, breaks the second.

World record, breaks the third. Jack with shop of discus dug in. We never thought we'd see that.

Never.

And then I got a phone call. Soon his picture will be pasted on.

3 million boxes of the stuff.

You see my brother on the face, but so cool. Where does it go from there?

You know, hold down, get dirty in life, and get back up again.

And that's the journey. And you can't beat the parking. Just remember that. Dude, that's badass.

Crazy story.

That's a crazy story.

So I went out there and I was like, I literally had to film the interviews, and their mom just passed with Brian Doug. And because the story of the brother, you know, just being there for Doug is wild and inspiring and I don't know, you know, having that amount of pictures and video to accompany any doc, I feel like is pretty imperative. And it was overwhelming. So I was like, I'm gonna come out, at least interview you guys. And then took a couple years to put it all together, but it's on my YouTube channel, YouTube.com adamraycomedy. I tried to pitch it a few places, didn't really have enough juice. And then I was like, I'm just gonna put it up. Cause I want them to. It should be out there. A movie on that story. I mean, it's wild, Joe. I'll text you a link. It's like 50 minutes.

So that you've never did a documentary or anything like this before.

First one directed. Yeah.

That's crazy. So you just got inspired because this guy's story, to put 1000%.

I was like, I can't believe that. That your story is not more. I go, I'm like, how the fuck have I not heard about this? And, you know, I've talked to a few people since who'd been like, oh, I remember seeing something on the news about this. Yeah, fucking a quick news, a ten second whatever.

But, like.

And Brian's such a character. The brother. That's who I was doing the voice of.

That's a great impression. His voice. That is right. It might be better than my easy.

But. But Brian now is. That's his life now, so that's also crazy. He dedicated his life to helping his brother, and now he is to the stars in New York and whoever else. I mean, he'll be on a. I flew him to Vegas once when I had a major back thing, and three days of aggressive stretching and fucking fixed me. And on the plane, he's like, there's a woman next to me, and her shoulder was fucking fucked up. Like, fix the shoulder? She wasn't able to do that for fucking 40 years. Now she can. And he kept telling me about Doug, and I was like, what did he.

Do to her shoulder that let her.

I don't know, just fuck. He licked at her. I don't know. A little. I don't know, release.

Some kind of, you know, he's.

There's a name for the type of physical therapist he is, but he says that it's in case people don't understand, but he's a wizard, man. And he. Yeah. So I just got. I was like, I need to do this.

Is he, like, do rolfing? Is it that kind of stuff?

What's that?

That's a really painful kind of soft tissue manipulation. You ever had it done?

No.

It's brutal, man.

Oh, really? Well, I mean, it does. It's. It's a. That's why I say aggressive stretching. It's really. But. But he just. A lot of unlocking things a lot of. But there's days when I've seen him, I stuck around New York an extra day to get worked on. And, you know, I get just from flying and carrying a lot of shit here. My quads get real tight all the time and so, you know, I'm just not stretching enough, which I know I got to. But, you know, he's like, I could use two more days with you to, like, really get you, you know, loosen you up. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I've been doing a lot of stretching lately because I done a lot of, like, especially getting ready for the special. I was working out a lot also to calm my mind.

Yeah.

And I might have overdid a little bit. And so I just was sore, man. My back was sore.

You feel on stage as you were moving around.

And then I decided on Saturday. No, not on stage. Just mostly, like, when I wake up in the morning, I'm going a little too hard here.

Right.

But I was what it really was. I wasn't stretching enough and everything was just tight because I was doing a lot of, like, kettlebell shit and it was just tight. And I spent like, two and a half hours on Saturday just stretching in my hotel room. Just stretching. That's all I did. I just watched some YouTube videos and stretched. And I felt a hundred percent better when I got. And I was like, oh, you fucking idiot. You should be doing this all the time. I know you don't put it. I need to do, like, long stretch sessions like that all the time.

That's patience, man. Two and a half hours.

Yeah, you just watch YouTube. Just put your phone down and watch some.

You have no excuse to not. I know. I tell my sister now, too, and she's like, I need to find more time to, you know, exercise in this. And I'm like, dude, you watch shows, like, already after work, just like, for even 20 minutes, like, walk around and just, you know, space out.

But, well, it's also if you want to exercise, like, get on a. Some kind of a cardio machine and watch a movie on an iPad. It's a cheat code.

Yeah. It's how I watch anything is on the bike.

Best way to distract yourself from the fact that you're exhausted.

Totally.

If you watch a good movie with headphones on an iPad on a, like, a stationary bike.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, you can enjoy the movie. Yeah, you actually can enjoy the movie and actually put in some serious cardio.

Yeah.

And you're. You. You'll be distracted, so you won't be thinking about the fact, you're exhausted on the bike. You'll be thinking about. Oh, my God. Don't go on to the basement.

Yeah.

They'Re going in the basement. I can't fucking believe. This movie is insane. Fucking movies. Insane.

Yeah. Yeah.

Especially a good thriller, you know?

Oh, yeah. That keeps you engaged. Yeah. What's your goat? I was. Well, what's your go to workout movie? Or can you not watch? Are you rewatcher?

Yes. John Wick. John Wick's the greatest ever workout movie.

Whoa.

Ever. Yeah. Yeah.

I have a confession. Haven't seen it.

Oh, my God. It's like.

Let's watch.

Saying she hasn't seen.

Put it up, Jamie.

No, it's like a girl saying she hasn't seen Barbie. Really?

Right. Oh, wow.

Yeah. It's the most insanely of all time. It's right. Yeah. It's so Keanu. It's so ridiculous.

And they've made 15.

They need four of them. Yeah, I think four, right? Yeah.

I remember hearing this last one. It was the talk of the town. People were like, it's a fun movie. Yeah.

But it's a really good movie to work out, too, because it's just so crazy cool because, like, so many people are getting killed. You just like, oh, yeah. You get in those extra reps. You're watching people engage. Yeah.

Wow.

Yeah, it's a crazy movie.

Mortal Kombat. Remember when that became a game member? I am when that what? Dude? That I understood why my mom was like, you can't play video games. Because I remember sitting downstairs, I had my bar mitzvah. She goes, I'm not buying you a video game system, but you can use some of your jew money to buy. She didn't say that. She goes, she can buy some of your. You can buy. What if she did? She goes, you can use some of your money from gifts to buy. And so I bought a super Nintendo and then more. And then I got, I think, a sega, and then Mortal Kombat. Or my buddy had a sega, and we played Mortal Kombat. And I remember just being like, what is happening right now? We went from Street Fighter, which is, you know, throwing, you know, heru gets and whatnot and then just ripping a guy's cock off.

Yeah. Yeah. You could kill people.

Yeah.

Pull their fucking skull out with their spine attached to it.

Pretty cool. And then just. Just go have a fucking crustable right after.

And it's very addictive. All those games are very.

Were you ever a gamer? Yeah.

What was your quake? But it's just because they're fun. Yeah, it's like, they're not addictive because they suck. They're awesome. They're just too awesome. Like, playing quake is too awesome. It's crazy fast paced. You're shooting rockets at people. They're electrocuting you to death. It's nuts. And it's such an adrenaline rush that you just don't want to stop. You just want to go to the next game. Next game. Keep playing. Keep playing. You know, you're exhausted. You're dehydrated. You haven't had any food 8 hours.

Oh, yeah.

What's wrong with you? And then you have to go to bed. You're lying.

Why am I still awake?

Yeah. This is crazy.

I've only played Halo a handful of times. My younger brother is pretty obsessed, but he's really good. And I played it online and I was real high, so I started to kind of get emotionally invested to where, like, I'd see guys getting shot and I was like, fuck, I can't. My heart was beating so fast, it was too much. If I was sober, I would have been less comrade.

Virtual reality ones. Now, my friend Matt Sarah, he play. He plays these virtual reality with the goggles. What's the one that Matt plays? What is that the game he plays? That is population one. Population one. So it's a VR shooter. So he's running around with VR goggles on. So he really feels like he's in the game. And he's like they're shooting at each other and shit. It's nuts.

Oh, my God.

He's getting goggles on. He's like, in his fucking house moving.

Around that security flip.

You feel like you're in a war. Like you're. You're so immersed in it. This. This video game is now a whole next level experience.

Yeah.

Because just in front of the computer is pretty involving. Yeah, you get the headphones on. Especially with these computer games now have 3d sound. So you hear sound coming from there. You know, guys over there, you know, you run towards Mac, your wife. Yeah.

I mean, yeah, it's. That's.

That's another thing about these goddamn games. You could beat the shit out of people. Like, there's a lot like, what is it? Red dead. Which?

Red Dead redemption. Right?

Yeah. Where you, like, take someone and fucking tie a noose to their neck and drag it behind your horse like you do wild shit. You could drown a prostitute in the river.

Yeah.

You do wild shit. And people like, hey, maybe you shouldn't be able to do this game.

This is a little seven year old. Shouldn't be able to see that. That's possible.

Yet it shouldn't be able to beat a prostitute with a shovel. Yeah, like, what are you doing?

Maybe a super soaker just hit her in the face or something. Yeah, something lighter.

Well, it's just the whole game is chaos. You know, it's like you. But you could do chaos to anybody. Just like Grand Theft Auto. You could do chaos to anybody.

You know, first time playing that, though, and driving down sunset and seeing, like, the comedy store was pretty cool, I think.

Grand theft auto, I think I read this. They were comparing the amount of money that Grand Theft Auto has generated versus, like, almost any other, like, movie game. Like, I believe in Paris, into how it does to, like, big Hollywood blockbusters, like, how much money as Grand Theft auto generated. I mean, that has got to be one of the most popular games of thousand that maybe it's about stealing cars and $1.5 billion.

Yo, good call, dude.

Yeah.

We'll be right back. That's a fucking. Holy shit, dude. That's so much money.

That's so much money.

Joe. That's wild. Thanks for pulling that speaker.

Do you think you deserve that amount of money?

What have you done? Other than show teenagers it's possible to beat, steal, and rob from a hooker? Hold that thought. We'll be right back.

Do you remember the guy who used to rob, run bum fights, and he came on doctor Phil as Doctor Phil shaved his head. The top of his head, Joe.

That's what we could do. You want to come on the doctor Phil live show? That guy. All we got to do is throw a stash on you.

That guy, he fucking.

Phil goes, what are you doing? And he goes, what? What? He goes, what are you doing? What are you doing? And he was like, I'm doing. I'm doing what you're talking about. I'm exploiting people. I make. I don't like it. Get out of here. Get out of here. Robin. Dude just kicked him off his set.

But it was weird, right? Like, you knew that's what he did.

Of course.

And you invited him on the show.

Yeah.

He probably just didn't like that path of the argument. I bet that path is a legitimate path.

Do you think he knew? Maybe he didn't know he was going to get into full makeup, because I'm sure Phil's not visiting the guests. Right.

Listen, this is not a surprise.

If you.

If you think. If you. If you think I exploit people every.

Time you bring a guest on this show you exploit them and spread whatever problems they have to the whole world.

You think that's helping them? Yeah, keep telling yourself that.

You can go.

You know what? Who do you think you are, huh? Bye. Come on. Huh?

No, I'm not finished talking to you.

Yeah, you are.

No, I'm not.

Yeah, you are.

Yeah, you're done. Don't even grab a complimentary doctor Phil hat. Just go. I hate me right now. I mean, this guy. Yeah.

Thing about that guy, though, is that guy, that bum fights thing was crazy.

It was wild.

Guy paid people to pull their teeth out. Yeah, it was. There's some awful, awful shit.

Yeah. You want to talk about using YouTube for the wrong reason?

Well, it wasn't YouTube.

It wasn't?

No, these were cassettes. There's, like, VHS's.

Maybe my first taste of bomb.

When. When did. What was bomb fights originally released on? I don't believe it was YouTube. I think it was pre YouTube.

Yeah.

No, it was sold for $22 apiece.

So bump. So people were either, I guess was bump fights for people that couldn't get girls gone wild? What, like. Cause those were both probably pop.

Basically, what bum fights was, was a lot of shit that you see already on the Internet. You see, I. How many bum fights have you actually seen on the Internet? I've seen so many guys that are, like, on heroin fist fight in the streets of Los Angeles. Like, this is a shitload of videos of bums duking it out, their pants fall down, guy gets kicked in the head, knocked unconscious. There's a lot of that that you can find. I get sent it all the time by Tom Segura.

Really?

Yeah. He sends just cell phone footage? No, the Instagram reels.

Oh, yeah.

Like, terrible things that you can see people just doing to each other all over the. So the thing is, like, this guy made a living off of it, though, and he was, like, selling these dvd's, and I think we didn't want to admit that people want to see that. Just like we don't want to admit people want to drown hookers and red dead redemption. But they do.

They do.

They do want to see that. If you let people slap each other in the face on television, people will tune in.

Oh, yeah.

If you let people dress up like fucking medieval knights and sword fights, people will watch. That is 100% a fact. And back then, we didn't want to believe that, and there was no Internet, so we didn't really understand our nature until the Internet came along.

So think about two girls, one cub.

Think about porn. Okay, think about the amount of porn that gets digested by the average american male versus that of 1950.

Oh, God.

There's a huge difference.

Yeah.

There's. The guys were jerking off to underwear ads, okay? Guys were starving for things.

Now, that's weird.

Yeah. They were jerking off to memory. They didn't even. They had no idea, really.

We had a lot of solid imaginations, probably in the fifties, sixties and seventies.

A good. Good idea in your head. That's why. That's all you had. That's all you had. And then now everyone has a phone, and anyone's phone can connect to a plethora of porn sites.

Had a guy on my flight about three months ago. No joke. Porn on the phone. No headphones. Jeez. Yep. Heard, like, heard, oh, fuck, my butt.

Fuck, my God.

And then was just kind of like. Like. And then saw. Saw the. You know, people kind of, like, turning people. No one wanted to. Citizens arrest this guy. So everyone was kind of like.

He probably was doing it to make people uncomfortable, for sure. Yeah. Because what is the law?

It was wild. I mean, I was two rows.

Are you allowed to do that? Like, what's the law? Like, where are you? Right. I'm saying. Yeah, like, you shouldn't be looking at his. But if he. If you can hear it.

Yeah.

Like, what is the law? Right? Yeah. Like, what if you're playing a podcast? That's offensive. What if you're playing a podcast on your phone? That makes me upset and. But you're playing it. I have to listen to it. I'm getting upset.

Right?

What is the law on that?

Right?

I feel like you're allowed to do that, right? So if you're allowed to say, like, fuck that guy and fuck this, but you can't say, fucked I. My butt. It gets a little weird, right? It gets a little weird. Like, it's his phone. Why. Why even looking at what's on his phone, you shouldn't be a fucking two rows back.

Put your headphones on.

How about stop paying attention to his phone? But also, why does he have porn on his phone? And it's loud, right? Like, I don't think.

Is it a public. Is it almost like urinating in public? A public decency thing? Like, you can't.

It's just like that. According to the law that I'm looking.

Up, you can't pee in public or watch someone talk about peeing. Right.

But can you. You listen. That's what I'm saying. Like, what is the law in, like.

Are you a peeping Tom, if you're listening. Yeah. Defendant convicted of watching porn in parking lot fails and constitutional challenge to public obscenity law.

Watching pornography in public. In public serves no legitimate purposes. Unless you want to fucking jizz like.

A racehorse, you're trying to get first class to turn things up a notch.

Doing so with one's window down and at a restaurant's busy parking lot and full view of families recklessly exposed pornography to young children. Oh, well, this is a little different. This is like a business. And he got in there with his window rolled down and he's beaten off. He might be a little bit of a freak, but it depends on, like, was he in the corner of the parking lot away from everybody?

Yeah.

Was he by himself? He's like, I just gotta rub this out. I gotta make a decision right now. I'm real confused. You know, it could have been like, totally thing. Yeah. Like, look, I'm losing my mind here. The public library is key block porn, and it's not illegal to watch.

Wow.

No way. That's crazy.

Look at libraries. Staying cool and hip.

If that's true, how many people are jerking off in San Francisco in a library right now?

Oh, I don't know. 1000% of the people attending the library.

Hundreds.

Hundreds. Yeah.

I would certainly recommend against doing this. One lawyer says, but he said Missouri. Scroll back up. It said, under Missouri statutes, depending on the exact circumstances, the prosecutor could file at least two different charges. But this is Missouri. Every state's different with that, too. Right? But didn't. Wasn't the article about San Francisco or any public library? Yeah, this is public library. Oh, it's any public. Oh, my God. Anywhere. I almost got arrested for taking photos, mooning a camera when we were, like, 21 or something. Like, yo, that's how crazy San Francisco is. I. He didn't say San Francisco. I assume. Assumed.

Wow.

I just assumed. Right. You. We didn't even bring I in my head, I'm like, the has to be San Francisco. That's so crazy. That's how crazy San Francisco's gotten. Where a story comes up and it's almost like, what? The Bernstein bears. What's that called? Yeah, that thing when you. The Mandela effect.

Yeah, the Bernstein bear effect.

Yeah. Well, it's the Mandela. People thought the Mandela died in jail, right. But he didn't.

Right.

And so there's this thing, like, people have, like, a whole narrative in their. It's like a glitch in the matrix type thing. I think that might apply to this. Cause it's like, instantly I was like, oh, it happened in San Francisco. I would have told the story in my head. I would have gone on, did you hear what happened in San Francisco?

That's crazy.

That you can watch pornography in the fucking library. Meanwhile, it's every library. Wow. Every library. That's.

Is that one person making that?

The guy in the parking lot was in New Jersey. Of course he is.

You saw that thing? Yeah, duh.

If you had a guess what state's gonna produce the most parking lot. Did you on the top of the.

List hear that story about the guy? It was maybe a few years ago. It might actually been during COVID When everyone was doing big work zooms. And the guy thought, work zooms? I'm sorry. Yes. And he stayed on. He didn't turn his computer or sound off. It was one of those things where you log on for the zoom. You know, the boss like, all right, guys, everyone's here, blah, blah. And then you can just turn your screen off. But he didn't turn his off, dude. Yeah.

Fucking hundreds of guys got crossed. I have a big about it. Hundreds of guys got caught doing that. It was. That was that Jeffrey Tuban guy. The CNN guy.

Yeah, that's, I guess a famous.

Yeah, but it was like, that's a wrap.

Right, guys? You're fired.

He's back. Wow. The tubing guys back.

But let's say it was like a Jamba juice conference. And you're on Zoom and you get likely.

It's a wrap.

It's a rap.

It's rap. But if you're a rapper, no big deal at all. No, I didn't know the cameras on. Sorry.

Sorry. Yeah, sorry. Welcome for getting to see some beautiful.

I don't think no one tells you welcome if you're getting caught doing that. But it's one of those things where it's just like, here's an article from the UK where it says it's debatable whether porn use public, even illegal. It should be the best hope for prosecution. Currently looks to be an offense against public decency. But what an archaic notion that sounds now. Isn't that weird? When was this written? If the government wants to retrieve any credibility from this debacle, it could order a legal review. View. Can old laws be repurposed or is new legislation required? That's interesting, because, like, when all these laws are put in place. They probably never anticipated porn on the Internet.

No.

Especially the way it is now.

Great point.

You know, when you talk about businesses that never got bailed out. Imagine if I told you there was a business. And this business is going to eat up about 30 plus percent of all the Internet traffic. Traffic. And this business is used by some ungodly percentage of men. Way more than it takes to elect a president. Right. What does it take to elect president? You don't even. 51%. Way more than 51% guys have used pornography. But yet when that business stopped making money because dvd sales went away, nobody talked about a bailout of the porn. Shut the fuck up. Bail out banks who bail out this business and that business and too big to fail. Not the porn business. Everybody's like, I don't even know what you're talking about. I don't. Is it still real? I don't even know they were making porn anymore. I mean, I don't even watch it.

Did you see the Ashley Madison duck?

What is that?

Ashley Madison was at the dating site. Yeah. The affair. The site for where people could have affairs.

Oh, that's right.

Is a wild, it's.

Oh, they got doxxed, right? Didn't some.

Yeah, they got hacked.

Yeah.

Yeah. And, and so they basically, it's, it wasn't. Yeah, people signed up to have a. It was a wild folk.

Just a whole website full of wild folks.

Oh, man.

And a bunch of risk takers. Just a bunch of people.

Just a lot of people doubling down.

And running away from the.

Hit me on twenties. Yeah.

02:00 in the afternoon. Yeah.

Meet me at the subway.

Yeah.

Next to the KFC. It's getting wild. Where's that my pants mask? It was maybe that guy was in.

The parking lot getting ready for one of them.

It was wild, dude.

Warming up.

Yeah. And then they interviewed a couple couples that were all about that we're doing it together, that we're just like that. We're swingers. Yeah.

Swingers are weird. They like, they have a missing fuse. It's like there's something in them. It's like it's different.

I met a few swingers through Brad Williams, of course, because swingers and little people know each other.

Oh, really?

There's a direct. Yeah, there's a interesting. Yeah, they have the same agents. Yeah, they just. So I met my first through Brad. Porn stars, swingers and other little people through Brad and comedians. But these swingers were wild. Dude, I never, I mean, I'm coming from small town north Seattle and like, I just even know it's not something I just is in my zyka. I never met. And so just talking to them so normally was just wild. You know what I'm saying it was.

I did these gigs in, God, I can't remember what state it was. Somewhere in the south. It might have been Nashville. So I did this gig with, and we had this guy drive us from the club. He picks us up at the hotel or at the airport, takes us to the hotel, and then he's driving us to the gig, and everything's normal. And then he eventually, at the end of the weekend, he's driving us to the airport, and when the guys drive us to the airport, he opens up about his swinger life. Like, out of nowhere. He's like, you guys ever swing? We have a swinging, swinging club in town, and we're like, swing? Like, what do you mean? He's like, you know, like, we wipe, swap, and. And the, like, he goes, I've been doing it for a while. I go, you like swinging? He goes, oh, yeah, I love it. Yeah, we swing. You know, my wife fucks with her. I get I get to decide, though, you know, like, if he's too good looking or he's too buff. I get to decide that I don't like that guy. He. She can't fuck that guy.

And we, they make, like, decisions like that.

Oh, my God.

And this guy's just opened up to us out of nowhere.

What preceded that conversation?

Nothing like fucking zero today, huh? Swinging. You guys like, swinging like what? Out of nowhere? This dude's just chatting it up about the guys he lets his wife fuck. It was crazy.

That's wild.

But he was one of them dudes that, like, had a ponytail, but it was also bald. Like, the whole thing was a mess.

Of course.

He was chaos. He was a human just examiner.

If you bring up swinging unprovoked, you have a ponytail.

He was a bizarre cat character, but it was just, I've only met a few groups of people that are, like, really into that. And one of them was in, I was doing the improv in Tampa, and.

This did that once.

Fun gig. Yeah, fun gig. And then this foursome of people were like, we're swingers. You should come. We have a swinger convention. Like, get the fuck outta here. They look like people that would be swingers, you know, just like, just a mess. Just a mess. Tampa is the swinger capital of the US. That's it.

No joke. I had a guy come up to me and proposition me in Kansas City to someone I was featuring for Harlan at the Kansas City improv. And he goes, he goes, man, it's funny. He's like, bam, wife. You guys doing it? You want to fuck my wife. And I was like, whoa, had it ever been proposed like that? Then she comes over, what are you guys talking about? Go, oh, he's trying to say wants to us to do something. And he, whatever. She goes, what the fuck? Had no clue that that was even. I was like, oh, he said. And then it was just super weird. She's like, daryl, what the fuck? Why would you like, I'm crazy, but what the f. I would never do that. And he. I'm like, oh, this guy must just be going around doing that.

That's his thrill. Yeah, he wants someone to fuck his.

Or maybe he wanted me to say yeah, and then like beat you up.

Yeah, could be. Could be a trap.

It was fucking wild.

Cause I could be sent in a trapdez.

Yeah.

Who knows? Who knows? But it's just, that's a weird culture. But you know, whatever. Not hurting anybody, dude.

Exactly.

Go fuck each other.

Yeah.

Enjoy clubs where they go and they're like, there's like people. Yeah, fucking each other. One of my friends, maybe it was Callan, told me he got a little bang bang party. It's like in the nineties or something like that.

Of course it was.

Told me that he went to one of those and walked in and people were fucking all over the place.

Those are things where you like drop your keys in the bowl or you put your phone like. Right?

No, that's like a party that they would like throw other keys in the bowl and then the guy would reach in and pull out one of the women's keys. The woman reach and pull out one of the guys keys and you figured out who you're going home with.

Wow.

Yeah. And they just swap. Swap wives, dude.

I mean, then that became a show.

Yeah. Is that wife swapping? Yeah, of course it was. I wonder if it's real though. You know those shows, they fuck around a lot with those shows. They manipulate reality. I remembered and found this recently. It's a commercial from Ohio where I'm from. Sun bubble hot tubs. A hot tub place. Oh, bro, we're in a private room.

Jamie, I love you for pulling this up. We had one in Seattle called tubs.

Bring your kids, right? Well, yeah, I mean, kids are swimming in fucking baked jizz drop soup in there. $20 an hour or something wild. Oh, that's crazy. But that's like couples. That. That's a very different.

Bro. We had a place like this. We had tubs in near a comedy club near giggles. You play giggles in Seattle? That was the four I first giggles in Seattle.

I did giggles in Saugus, Massachusetts.

Okay, cool. It was the one comedy club, I guess in the nineties that that was thriving and near the University of Washington. And they place called tubs there. But we also have a place called tub subs, a sandwich place. So that's all I know about. I'm a little fat kid thinking about sandwiches. And my friends dad were leaving soccer practice. I'd scored on my own team. That was. He called me a fucking idiot. That was a wrap for me in soccer. And so we're driving by and he's like. And I see tubs. I'm like, oh, tubbs. I'm like, we should stop and get some food. You know, we just lost. Escorted my own team some sandwiches. Sounds good. And he's like, oh, that's not. They don't do sandwiches there. It was just the same name. And I was like, oh, what happens there? It's like people rent rent hot tubs and they go in there and just kind of hang out. I was like, had no clothes. What do you mean hang out? So they go in there, you meet somebody, you bring them in, you have some fun. No clue. And then like ten years later, I'm like, oh, people were just going there just to fuck, like you said, in a hot tub?

Yeah.

Yeah. It's probably surprising a hotel room for sure.

And it's a hot tub. Who doesn't love a hot tub?

Yeah, people just want to go and bang it out or maybe on a date and you get a wild hair. You want to go to a hot tub room.

How do you.

Dude, let's go.

How do you feel about hotel hot tubs when you're on the road? Yeah. Thank you.

What are the odds? That's clean. That's dangerous.

I know, dude. That's literally, you know, a guy got.

Legionnaires disease from a hot tub in Ladenhead.

What is that disease?

Oh, it's like a disease that's like, archaic. It's like one of those old world diseases that's not supposed to be around anymore. And this guy got a fucking hot tub. See if you can find that article. I'm pretty sure it was California that it happened.

Yeah, they never cleaned.

My memory's a little foggy on where it was. I feel like it's. But maybe I'm thinking everything crazy is in California today, you know? I assume that other story was from San Francisco. Yeah, but this guy, he got in a stanky ass hot tub and he got Legionnaire's disease and fucking died.

You can die for.

He died? Yeah, he died. Do you have it? Cause if you not. I saved the article. Yeah, man. I definitely saved it on my phone. Cause I was like, this is the craziest fucking.

Just going to relax.

So is it in 2023, California spas pleased to be the source of an outbreak of Legionnaire's disease that caused the illness of multiple people and the deaths of two Contra Costa Health announced Monday it has been investigating Zen day spas. Spa and Contra Costa California since August. How about you step in fucking. How about don't investigate. Just fucking test the water. That's so crazy.

One dead, eleven sick and Legionnaires disease outbreak in Napa.

Oh, my God. It's a hot tub disease.

Yeah, that's. That's got to be a man who.

Died of legionnaires disease from Bay Area spa was celebrating his birthday.

Oh, God, dude, a hot tub birthday gone wrong.

It's your birthday. I want to take you to the hot. You got a groupon. Oh, my God. So do people that jizzed in that pond. That's what's so disgusting. It's probably just a combination of jizz meat. Shit. This just becomes this monster virus that kills people that are trying to celebrate their birthday.

What the fuck?

Yeah, bring your kids. Bring your kids to the spot. Catch. Legionnaires disease. What? What is that? What is that? Have a health permit? Oh, why should they? It's only a spa where you're naked.

It's wild. That tub of water.

Why would they have a health permit? Why would they even check?

Yeah, a hot tub is a wild invention. I mean, even a public hot tub is just such a wild idea. Like, what are you doing?

Water that gets hot. Like that is so perfect for bacteria.

Yeah.

It's so wonderful. If you don't have the right amount of poison in there, which is what it is. When you're pouring chlorine in there, you're just killing everything that's alive. Severe pneumonia. Oh, wow. It's a severe form of pneumonia. Lung inflammation usually caused by infection. It's caused by a bacterium known as legionnaire. Why did they name it Legionnaire's disease? Let's google that. Because it sounds like some shit that happened in the old world.

It does.

There's a bunch of diseases that are starting to emerge in the homeless community in Los Angeles that are ancient diseases.

No shit.

From what? I think they got typhus just from being disgusting. The American Legion state convention, Philadelphia. What? Okay. It's commonly known as legionellosis, which is a generic term for respiratory infection caused by the legionella bacteria. This disease is named after a deadly outbreak of pneumonia in 1976 that occurred during people attending the American Legion's state convention in Philadelphia.

Legionella. Sounds like coachella for people that have swallowed a lot of hot tub cum.

So that's why they named it legionaries disease. Because it happened during that. That was the outbreak. Oh man. Wow.

Yeah, no thanks.

What is the American Legion? What's that? Was the convention of the American Legion. Do you know what that is?

Led to the name of the legionnaire's disease? No clue.

But what is the American Legion?

Come.

Veterans association. Wartime veterans. Oh my God. Aimed at advocating wartime veterans and they die from a fucking disease. That. And then they name it after the legion. Wow. Which is like really bad for business. Really bad for business. I should have done that to them. Don't call it legionnaires disease. Don't name it after us, you fucking assholes. Call it some fucking weird latin name and come up with some spooky monkeypox type definition. Don't call it. Don't name it after us. Imagine somebody caught pneumonia and they called it mothership itis. And they got mother. People dying from mothership by this. I can't. You fuck it.

You'd be pissed.

Don't do that. It just happened to be there. It's not the legionnaires. It's not the legion center that was the problem. They didn't do anything wrong. No, but they probably had some dudes that were coming back from Thailand. I'm saying 1000%, you know, I'm saying.

Where does herpes get his name?

Old dudes that come back from Thailand.

Oh yeah. With everything.

They go over there for like four months of the year, come back looking like. Who knows? Who knows? Who knows? You look it around real quick. There was a meme that I saw today of this older man in his sixties and he's holding hands with two hot asian girls. And it was saying something about like when I cash my va check and I disappear. Don't worry about me. Cool, cuz I'll be in some strange country.

Oh yeah.

Where there's rampant sex trafficking.

Oh my God. I know, right? I thought you, by the way, I thought you're gonna bring up the 91 year old who just died and who was married to a 42 year old.

What are you talking about?

91 year old billionaire I just saw today that died.

Well, it's true love. That's what's important.

That's what.

She's probably hot as fuck. She's probably super super hot as fuck.

She was way into him.

Let's see what he. And she looked like.

He had a great personality.

That gives me hope for the future if everything goes sideways, you know, like you should be, men should be happy because that's even possible that you can trick.

There you go.

Look at that. Totally looks like they would love each other.

Mister Bean's dad.

Yeah, she looks like she should be married to a farmer. Some big old buff farmer.

How does she even meet this? Well, I mean, I guess, yeah, probably some billionaire dating.

Yeah, he gained fame through high profile dates just weeks after marrying his six wife. She died. Yeah. She got a pillow over that dude.

Yeah, yeah.

But if you're a woman and you know, you're 40 and this guy's nice and he's worth fucking $30 billion, you want to marry you? Like, let's go, let's go, let's fucking go. I know I can, I can deal with you.

Did you.

She likes them. Maybe she even likes them. Maybe she also likes being super fucking rich.

Totally. She might like that a little bit more.

Yeah. Like people were always about. Remember Anna Nicole Cole Smith?

Yeah.

Yeah. Jay Howard Marshall?

Yeah.

And people like, they knew what it was. But guess what? He knew what it was too.

Totally. He was having a good time.

It was caused by a tough bike workout. Oh wow. He was rushed to the hospital with crippling back pain with a ruptured heart valve. Wow. Blew his heart out.

Probably thinking about fucking our 1000%.

Yeah, he was still give it to her tonight. 49 year age difference. So what? Let it go. Oh, look at that one right there. Is that her previous. Oh, the previous one. Damn, let me see that one. That one's even more preposterous. No, scroll up so I can see.

Oh, this guy's been doing it forever.

That's the most preposterous. Yeah, that's perfect. That's what I like to see.

It does give me hope.

See that? Yeah, yeah, cuz you can be disgusting.

Also it gives me hope that it like I don't know how old he was, 80, 90, but like Bamdeh, that's.

What, that's what I'm talking about. Well how about the.

Even like Betty white before she passed was saying how like she was like, I think at 99 maybe that like there was some article I read and she was just like talking about like still banging it out. Wow.

Yeah, dude, wild old ladies don't give a fuck. Oh no, they're not worried about your approval anymore.

Dude.

That's, she'll tell you who she fucked. She'll tell you. Was that guy who owns the raiders. He's got, like, a really hot 24 year old girlfriend.

Oh, yeah.

He's got that crazy mo haircut.

Yeah, dude.

That dude. What a guy's character.

He looks like a. He truly looks like a Nickelodeon cartoon character.

Denny. Is he having a baby? Is that what's going on?

Well, that and Bill Belichick's got a young girl. I mean, Pacino's got. I mean, fuck, dude. Pacino's a dad at 92 or whatever.

Is that normal? Sounds totally normal. Seems like it's gonna work out.

It's so. Yeah.

So I think Pacino wanted to take a paternity test, too, to make sure it was his. He's like, what? I'm shooting live rounds.

Yeah.

At fucking 90 years old. How is that possible? Yeah.

It can't be, but it is.

Yep. That's the crazy thing about men. Men can keep having babies when they're geriatrics, but women, like nature says, that's rap. They get to a certain age, they go through menopause, and that's a rap. But the dudes can just keep impregnating gals. Look at this. Bam. Son.

What he looks like. He. I mean, this guy. Yeah. Yeah. Wow.

Mystery woman. Oh, she's a mystery woman. She's a mystery. She's hot. That's not a mystery. Congratulations.

Good for him. Yeah, you did it.

This is a fun thing, lottery. But when you see it the other way, you get creeped out.

Yeah.

Like, if you saw Betty White with, like, Thor, you'd be like, what the fuck? What's going on there? Yeah, it's kind of gross.

Yeah.

Why are you doing that to that old lady? Yeah.

You'd be worried about Betty White. Yeah.

Yeah. The way you would have sex with a young lady. Cause that's disturbing.

Yeah, that's tough.

What are you doing to her? Can she even take that kind of abuse?

Maybe she could.

Jesus.

Maybe she wanted it.

Maybe she's just one of them old school ladies. Immigrant ladies with strong bones.

Oh, God.

Stiff spine.

Harlan used to do a joke when I would open for Harlan. He would do a joke where he'd go. He'd take somebody's tortilla chip out of the front. Front row. And you go, here's my impression of a 75 year old woman having sex, and then he would just crinkle the chip into the mic, and it was like. It sounded exactly like everything breaking and. Yeah, yeah.

It sounds wrong, right. But like an old guy, like, having sex with a hot young lady. Like, go pops.

Kind of a cool way to go out, too.

Yeah, sure, I guess.

Yeah, actually, yeah, maybe not. Then I guess everyone's looking at you like, oh, you couldn't. Couldn't keep it together enough.

Oh, this is the one. She's not. They're nothing. This was like a weird. Oh, it's wildly untrue. Yeah, well, of course it is. People love saying silly shit. That's not true. Hopkins is pictured sitting next to Davis in December 2022, fueling rumors that two were romantically involved. But they're not. But we're hoping. We're hoping that he can get a gal like that. That's what it is, right? You're hoping. You're not going, oh, my God. Cause he's so old that he's passed the creepy into the novelty.

Yep.

Right? So there's a creepy verb.

Yep.

The creepy version is like, you know, a guy who's in his sixties is dating a girl who's 20.

Right?

That seems creepy. But if a guy's in his seventies. Yeah, he's dating a girl is 20. It's like, okay.

Yeah.

It's so ridiculous.

Why is. Yeah. A little more acceptable?

It is what it is.

I know.

You know it is what it is. You know what it is. I know what it is. Everyone knows.

Like, you don't know what it is.

He probably knows what it is. He knows. Exactly. He lies to himself.

That's fine.

We all know what it is.

That's his deal.

So when it's 60 and 20 or 50 and 20, we feel like that person is probably taking advantage of that.

20 year old potentially.

Potentially, yeah. Maybe not. Maybe she's a real mature 20.

Sure. That could be.

Possibly. Family loves this guy. I can deal with that. But there's a weirdness. If it's, like, a 60 year old guy and a 20, that makes me creeped out.

Oh, my God, that's too.

That's too old.

Oh, yeah.

A 70 year old guy and a 20 year old, you're like, eh, it's okay, dude.

My buddy went to school, and there was a 45 year old dating a 20 year old in there in college. That felt very weird.

But it wouldn't be weird if it was a 20 year old guy. This is my problem with it all. A 20 year old. Let's assume that men and women are equal. A 20 year old man and a 45 year old lady is great. Like, no problem. Like, look at her. She got a hot young guy. Like, no one cares. At all?

Yeah, at all.

It would be weird. But not weird where you would think, oh, that lady's a creep. No. Right? No, but like, a 49 year old guy, 20 year old girl, you're like, hmm, may.

I mean, maybe same thing with the teachers.

I'm not one to tell people what to do. No, but if it was the other way around, like Cher, they're like, cher is what? How old is Cher now? Don't ask a lady your age, Adam. How old is she? 77.

Wow.

37.

Wow.

Okay, but listen, that doesn't bother me at all, right? That is what it is, too. Yeah, right. It is what it is. You know what it is. Yeah. You know what it is.

You know?

I know it is.

She knows what it is.

Everyone knows what it is.

We all know what it is.

We all know, and we're fine.

We're fine with it. But it's just you can still go about your day and eat pizza. Let them live their life.

So, like, a 49 year old lady and a 91 year old guy, like, fine.

Let me ask you this. When you heard about Mary Kay Letourneau, that happened in Seattle, where I'm from. And that was the first teacher that, like, was fucking around. The kid that was. That age gap was like, I think 35 and twelve. But also, she.

Listen, she's the first teacher to get caught.

There it is.

Yeah, they were. There's freaks all over this fucking planet.

Wow.

Freaks. Also women that are just as you see this.

Katie was charming.

Some men are crazy and some women are crazy. And some women are crazy and they have great features.

Yeah.

And they're just. They're nuts. And they want to blow the whole football team. And they don't give a fuck who tells who what. Who cares?

They got into teaching for that reason.

Well, who knows why they got into teaching? But they're crazy people. And then some people just have no impulse control and they want to get teenagers drunk and maybe they want to relive their high school and freak these young boys out and suck their cocks.

Wow.

Suck their cocks in front of their friends. Can't believe it's happening. Can you imagine some mad teachers got her tits out and she's blowing you. You're like, what am I seeing? How is this even real?

I don't know what I would do, bro.

And they're always in Florida. How many of them, like, if I hear a story like that, like, I think of another story, it's probably right. Fucking her students. I go, probably Florida. Some hot blonde with big tits.

Tampa. Teacher took the pickleball team. Oh, Jacksonville? No, Tampa. Yeah.

The swinger state.

Swinger state.

It's just something in the water out there.

It is.

It's probably alligator farts.

They're fearless.

Everybody can feel.

Yeah, yeah.

The methane in the air from alligators fart and it's got everybody high.

They are fearless down there. Yeah, hurricane warnings, they don't give a fuck.

Well, they do give a fuck, but there's not much he can do.

Well, those.

To live down there like that is the fucking gamble you play.

But don't you ever see those stories when like they're like a thousand mile an hour winds coming through and then some guys just like, I ain't going anywhere. I built this house.

He's ready to die. Some people ready to check.

That's what it is.

If God's gonna take him out, out by flattening their house, sucking you out of your house, they're like, I'm not leaving. I don't want to go anywhere.

Kind of respect that.

Yeah, maybe the car doesn't have any gas. They don't have any money for gas. You know, if you're going to drive away from a hurricane, you are going to have bumper to bumper traffic for a day. You ever been that? You ever seen it?

Oh, yeah.

Did you? You ever get stuck in one of those?

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Like just a big pile up for hours and.

No, like a hurricane.

Oh, hurricane. Oh, shit.

No, it's a unique pile pile up because the whole state's trying to leave. Like the highways are not set up where everybody can leave. The highways are set up for normal.

Stuff, so you're better.

Normal stuff is you're going there, but I'm going there. We're not all going there. So if everyone's going there, wow, dude.

We might spark that back up.

Yeah, think about that. Normal traffic is we're all going all over the place. Yeah, I got to go to the east, you got to go to the west. That's fine. We could have multiple cars going.

That rarely is everybody going all go that way? Yeah.

That's fucked. That is so fucked. Look at this, dude. This is what it's like. 56 hours on the road to escape from Hurricane Irma. 56 hours. That's what that looks like. That's why you don't live there. You don't live there unless you have a fucking private jet.

Yeah.

Or a helicopter to get the fuck out. Get you the fuck out of there. Because if you get stuck in that.

Shit, you're arguably less safe. Right.

It depends on when you leave.

Yeah.

Okay. Because the thing. The thing about the modern storm, the way they're, the meteorologists and the way they're able to predict the paths of these things, they're pretty good. They're pretty fucking accurate, and they see them coming pretty far away. So you get a couple of days, but that's 56 hours. 56 fucking hours. That's what it looks like. So nothing is set up for that, dude. Nothing is set up where, see, they have both lanes on both sides going this way. No one's going the other way. Notice that? So they change the lane. So instead of on the right lane, people going forward, and this one they're going back. Nope, everyone's going the same fucking way.

That's wild.

Yeah.

And no amount of podcasts can get you through that drive or road head.

But you might not have the money for the gas.

Right. Okay.

Like, you're going to run out of gas stations over and get gas. You better hope they have gas because a lot of times they run out of gas.

Yeah.

In a lot of places they run out of gas and there's hurricanes. So you have to have a full tank. You have to make sure your car's not a gas guzzler. Yeah, you're gonna have to shut it off maybe because you're stuck in the middle of this fucking road. It's not going anywhere because there's 10 million people on the same road. That's a mindset that people don't take into consideration when they think about living in places like that. You have to take into consideration the fact that everyone has to go in one direction, not good. And Florida is shaped like a dick, right? So it's a narrow ass bullshit. And everybody's going towards the north.

That's what's scary about LA, too. Even with these like, last few earthquakes happening, I'm like, oh man, dude. Like it's.

It.

We're just not set up in a leave town.

Oh, no, LA is not set up like that at all. For example, Texas 146, which travels through Liberty county, dumped 600,000 people into a county with only 70,000 residents.

Oh, that makes sense, dude.

You know how insane that is? 600,000 people in a place that only has 70,000 residents. That's crazy. Thousands of people ran out of gas. Their cars overheated from all the inching along, causing many to stop and sleep along the highway. They even reports of price gouging by convenience store owners inundated with customers. Crazy. The death of 24 Bel Air nursing home residents who died when their chartered bus caught fire and exploded at about 06:45 a.m. oh, my God. Clogging on traffic. Clogged. So the car overheat and caught fire. Yeah.

So that's happening just with the influx of people. Right. Cars popping off and, dude, when you're.

When you got to get the fuck away from a hurricane, that is.

Have you been in one or any sort of tornado?

Not like that. No, nothing like that.

Any. A desire.

Hurricanes that had made it all the way, like, Gloria made it all the way to Boston when I was a kid. That was a, that was a.

But it wasn't Jeff going to shelter and all that.

No, it wasn't that scary. It wasn't. By the time it got all the way up to Boston, it wasn't as. It was nothing like the tropical ones. The ones where you're catching them hot off the ocean.

Yeah.

And you're getting those fucking Florida keys, those fucking Miami ones, bro. Those are banana take you down. I was in a rainstorm once in Miami where the whole highway had a stop. Whole highway stop.

Because you couldn't see anything.

You couldn't see a goddamn thing. The whole highway stops.

Wow. People will drive still too, with you when you just can't see.

No, no one was driving at this point. It was so bad. No one. No one was driving. I was doing a gig in Miami. Eddie Bravo was doing a jujitsu seminar in Miami. I was doing a gig in West Palm. That's what it was. And I had to go down and travel to Miami with him. We had to stop on the highway. Stop dead. The whole highway.

Oh, my God.

It was white. You couldn't see anything.

That's like apocalypse shit. For how long?

That wasn't that long because they just dumps and then it goes away in a few minutes and it becomes passable where it's just raining now. It's not so insane that no one can see, right? But you've never seen that before. You've never been in, like, a tropical place.

Yeah.

That was a normal rainstorm. That wasn't like a hurricane warning, right. They just get so bananas. You can't fucking see a car in front of you. You can't see anything.

That's so fucking nuts.

Yeah, dude.

I had to go into shelter once. Tornado. My grandparents and mom from Oklahoma, and when they were living there, we went into the shelter. Tornado people. Like, we were down there with people that were just like, we might have to live down here. This could be the new. Know this. Like, it was my grandparents, a few of their friends and people that were just like, went to the shelter, and I'm fucking ten surrounded by true doomsday guys that were just like, this is where we live now. Like, you might need to. And you look like you're the fattest kid here, young Adam. So we might need to be chomping on those beef jerky titties. It was wild. But just even just the idea that, like, oh, we're running away from this was wild. Cause Seattle, we didn't have any of that growing up. We just had, you know, torrential rain or whatnot.

One time we were at the national airport, we had to go into the tornado shelter. There was tornadoes in Nashville, but nothing happened.

Right.

We got lucky that. That's the craziest one. The craziest one is tornadoes because you can't even predict those yet. Those just show up.

You should twister.

No, I didn't. And see the new. I saw the old one. I didn't see the new one. Heard the new ones. Good.

It's wild.

Is it good?

It's awesome. Yeah, the effects are wild, dude.

I mean, they can do now it's like, compared to the old. Twister. Oh.

Oh, my God, dude.

Yeah.

Helen Hunt. You believed Helen Hunt was in danger, right? We were very concerned for Helen Hunt.

Damn.

And now you're. I mean, it's. I thought about going to one of those theaters. I want to know how you feel about this. The ones that, like, shake the seats and.

Fuck that.

Yeah, no, thanks.

Fuck that. With all these people freaking out around me. That's good to see a fucking horror movie and sheets. She. The seat is shaking.

Oh, yeah.

People start screaming.

No, thanks. Yeah, too real.

Too much of a mind fuck. Yeah. Maybe in some movies would be cool, you know?

Well, when I worked at Universal Studios, they had a Shrek four D. And so, like, when Shrek or when Donkey would sneeze, you get, you know, blown with snot stuff. People like that. But that's a theme park, you know, I hosted the fear Factor live show at Universal.

Yeah, that's hilarious.

And it was not anything close to your show, but it was like, you know, but I. You'd have to make people think like, you know, the first stunt was like, these guys are going to be hanging on to these, you know, bike handlebars 30ft in the air, and there's a platform below them, and when the platform drops out, you hear the sound effect. They gotta hang on and. But they're attached to a buggy bungee cord, so there's no real danger involved. I mean, and then it was the only real thing that was kind of close to the show was the eating of stuff. It was like, we have this picture of, like, sour milk and, you know, beaver clits and just all this. It was just crazy shit. And one guy projectile vomited on me, and I said, what the fuck? Into the mic in front of 1500 kids. And I got suspended it for a week because I cursed in front of kids.

But I threw up in your mouth. Yeah, dude, what do you want? Perfection? Fear factor, dude. Ridiculous.

Yeah.

Hilarious, though, that you hosted that.

It was nuts, dude. I mean, it was very. I mean, dude, the show was ludicrous. Mary fuck kill. That is that. Did you ever go to Universal when you were there with the kids? Yeah, sure. Yeah, I probably saw you. I was Wolverine there for three years.

I did. You know what I used to love at Universal? The. The zombie place.

Oh, my God. It was awesome.

What am I thinking? Walking dead.

The maze. The day would have.

Yeah, that's fun.

It's incredible.

That's fun.

Yeah.

That's pretty scary.

We had during Halloween horror nights before they put a clamp down on it, but I dressed up as Scarface zombie, so I was Pacino zombie. So I'm just chasing people around scared and. Oh, shit, that's me, dude, for about four years.

That's hilarious.

Yeah, the scared the shit out of people.

Universal has a great waterworld thing to, like, water. All the movie. It was not that good. But Waterworld, the, like, shows the best parcel. It's fucking great.

Oh, yeah.

It's better than the actual water, right? Isn't it crazy? Oster's like a movie that turned out to be a tremendous flop.

That's insane.

They. And they put together a theme show. Yeah, for a movie that was a tremendous flop. Yeah, but the theme show is so good that people still come to see it.

Oh, yeah.

About a movie that no one cares about, bro.

It's wild.

They spent so much money on water.

Millions of dollars, maybe billions. One of those things where it sounded like. Yeah.

Just didn't work out. It didn't work.

The pitch sound must have been like. So just. It's like last of the mohicans on water and the guy from field of dreams and tin cup jet skis. Dude, there were days when you'd see people. Dude, some of my universal days where I'd see a guy dressed as SpongeBob. I mean, I was a 1940s cop was the best job I had there, because I wasn't from anything. I'd improvise as Wolverine and make and do bits. And my boss was like, wolverine's not funny. Stop doing fucking stand up. Cause I'm doing open mics at this time, so my 1940s cop walking around can make fun of people, do whatever. And at one point, I picked up a squirt gun that was on a kiosk. It was like 120 out. And I'm just shooting people, people with it and doing all these bits. And japanese tourists would walk by and I'd shoot this one guy in the back, and then all these people were watching me and I'd be like, act like I didn't know what was happening. And my boss pulls me over and she goes, what are you doing? This is 1940s New York, this part of the park, there's New York people out of the window.

There's a cabbie. You're supposed to be making people think this is 1940s New York. And I go, general, with all due respect, a trolley just drove by with Fievel, curious George and SpongeBob squarepants blasting the song, oo ee oo ah ching chang walla walla bing bang. And I was like, I'm not a history buff, but I'm pretty sure that song wasn't also a part of the forties. And she's like, it's your job to make people think that this is 1940s New York. And I was like, fuck, I gotta get out of here. Jesus.

Job to make people retarded. What does that mean?

And I was like, people are walking out thinking that I didn't make them think that this is, then they shouldn't be in the park in the first place.

That's ridiculous.

Wild.

That's funny. That's like people that go to those fairs, those medieval fairs, Renaissance fairs, and then some people, like, break character, and then the other people try to talk to them in character. You ever see that happend? Oh, yeah, it's hilarious.

Oh, yeah, I broke character all the time, dude. John, Dave Matthews came in one time with his family. I'm in full 1940s cop. And he's like, is there any way I can get a beer? And I was like, yeah, come with me. There's one irish pub down here, I'll take you to it. And I just seen him the night before. I go, dude, you guys fucking crushed it last night. And he goes, oh, shit. He goes, can you break character? I go, dude, I don't want to be here. Fuck yeah. And then I went, he offered to get me a shot of this bar, and I was like, dude, you ruined.

The experience for him. You ruined it for David Matthews. He was like, he's breaking character. This is bullshit. The cop thing. I paid for the cop.

I paid for the cop thing. This is bullshit.

Dave Matthews. That's funny.

Cool as fuck.

That whole universal rides thing is the best thing. Is the Harry Potter thing. A thousand percent fucking with dragons.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, my God. It's credible.

Yeah. You really sick of those?

No. Yeah, no, I'm lucky I don't have the motion sickness. Yeah, the motion sickness thing's a weird one. You can't read in a car. You can't, you know, it's.

What a song. Yeah. Dramamine is your fucking cocaine.

You can throw up from reading in a car. Which is real weird. Your brain gets so confused, like, why am I looking at something that's stationary when I know my body's in motion?

I know. Doesn't make sense.

Your body does not like it.

Yeah.

At all. And your body's like, you must be sick. You have to tell it. I'm not sick, bitch. I'm looking at my phone.

I know.

You know?

Yeah.

I tried to read a book once in a car, and I was fighting off the nausea. I was like, don't be a pussy. And then I was like, oh, my God, you can't fight it anymore.

It was like, just happened.

Yeah, no, I held it in.

Oh, you did?

But I was like, you know where it, like, comes up in your throat and you have to swallow it back down and it burns your throat? You know those feelings? I was right there.

I had a kid have to do that in science class. He had chew 8th grade, and the teacher found him. Mister Moore caught Joe Antonet R I p. And he had a big thing of chew in his mouth. And Mister Moore goes, Mister Antonzich. He was a little. He looked like David the gnome. Huge beard, you couldn't see his eyes, barely. His beard came up to here, big fucking, you know, fro. And he goes, Mister Antonzich, I see that chew in your mouth. And he was like, I don't know what you're talking about. He goes, swallow. Made him swallow it. Dude puked right after.

That's crazy.

Wish that story was better.

I'd be mad at that teacher. You can't make my kid swallow. Chew, you fucking idiot.

Fucking 1995.

Bad for you. Really bad.

Mister Morgan give a fuck.

Poison. Mister Morgan, you piece of shit. How about you shave your stupid fucking face to cocksucker?

You could tell this guy, me, he was a tiny little, like, science guy that you could tell, like. I don't know. He didn't give a fuck. He was gonna.

Well, they don't like kids fucking around. Yeah, I get it. But kids are gonna fuck around.

Yeah.

To be a little bit more even keeled.

Yeah.

Can't make kids swallow tobacco, you fucking idiot.

It's pretty wild now that I'm saying it out loud.

It's crazy. Well, I. When I was in school, these two paddle you when I lived in Florida.

The fuck out of you.

Yeah. Yeah. You get in a fight, they paddle you. They whack you in the ass with.

A piece of wood in front of people.

No, it was just the principal. The principal would paddle you.

Jesus. That wasn't like a weird fetish. It was just like.

No, it's punishment. You did something wrong. You got whacked.

I got whacked? Did you get whacked?

No, I'm not really as a kid.

Yeah.

Not much.

Yeah.

Nothing like where I got hurt.

Yeah.

You know, just like.

Yeah, of course.

Nothing serious.

Spoon to the back.

Nothing criminal. Slap.

My sister threw a high heel shoe at my back once during a fight.

Oh, my God.

Yeah, that fucking hit me right in the back. I went down.

It's a piece of wood.

Yeah.

It's goddamn deadly weapon.

Yeah. Then she locked me in the garage. Then I got out.

Jesus.

Locked her in the garage.

Jesus.

And then she made fun of me for being a fat kid and having bigger tits than our mom.

Oh, my God.

And she was adopted. So I go, you mean my mom? And fuck it. Oh, mic drop. But also. Yeah, that one. That one. Oh, yeah, that was fucking. I said, natalie, I'm so sorry. Even to this day. Yeah, that was. Wow.

That's to the bone.

She's crushing it now. Is that deep as a fucking dude.

Ten years old, kids are fucking mean. Cause they don't understand what's gonna do to someone. That's why bullies in school are so dangerous. Cause you could ruin someone's life for no fucking reason other than you can.

Yeah.

You know, you see kids ganging up on kids as fuck for no reason other than you can. You're gonna ruin that kid's experience for the rest of their life. Some kids, they get bullied in high school and they never recover.

1000.

They become like recluses. They hide. They always associate people with pain.

Yeah.

It becomes a real problem. Was a real fucking problem. Yeah.

The kids that would tease me for weight stuff, like, I try. You know, as I got a little older, I try to give benefit the doubt and be like, oh, they didn't know any better. They're just fucking kids. But, like. And thank God I found a way to maybe, you know, get around it.

But, like, kids can be so mean. They can be mean. They don't even know.

They don't even.

Man, they're just doing it because they're. They're exper. Louis Ck had a whole bit about it. I forget how it went, but it was essentially about his. He's dead on. Right. It's like, they know that they can do this thing. Yeah. So they do it, and it's just like a. It's like throwing a rock in a window. Right. They. They can, so they do it. And young kids don't think about consequences. No, they're little animals. They're not fully developed.

Yeah, I know.

And so they're mean. But the problem is, when they're mean to, like, if you're mean to a 14 year old that's just coming in in 9th grade, you might fuck them up forever. Forever.

Yeah.

Especially if you're, like, 16 or 17, you're a big, older bully, and you're picking on some 14 year old kid, like, whoa. Yeah, I know. So many people that just got destroyed from their experience in high school. Just destroyed their confidence.

Didn't recover.

Well, it alters the course of your life.

Oh, wow. Yeah.

You're always thinking you're a loser, so it kills your confidence to try anything.

Yeah.

Kills your confidence to meet people. You know, you're afraid of interactions.

You're always hearing back to that. Yeah, yeah.

I mean, that's why parents, you know, old school parents will tell you, and some boy bullies, you go back to school, you punch that kid right in the fucking face. Like, imagine sending your kid to school and telling them that. Like, go punch that bully in the face. Like, what the fuck?

I know. My mom used to tell me. She's like, tell me, go tell the teacher or call me, and I'll call the parents. I'm like, that's the fucking last thing I want to do. At least I'm, like, savvy enough to, like, not.

You're not gonna be there all the time.

Yeah.

So I'm gonna have to go to school, and I'm gonna have to deal with this guy. This is. Don't. You don't inter. If you intervene, you're not gonna intervene every day.

Yeah.

So what's gonna happen? He's gonna remember that you intervene next time he sees me, know he's gonna put me in a locker. You know, it's gonna be a real problem.

I ran for vice president the fifth grade, and my mom helped me write my speech. She was reminding me of this. And I go, big kid again. And I was running on the platform of, if you vote for me, I'll have. We'll have ice cream every day. My mom helped me write this, and I was like, I think I'm okay. And then she was like, put this. And she goes, say, if you vote for me, you have ice cream every. I promise we'll have ice cream at LFP every day. Not Joe. I did that in front of the whole school.

Oh, no.

Crickets. One teacher in the back.

Oh, shit, your mom told you? Oh, mom, terrible idea.

Roll the dice.

Then I'd be like, yo, don't listen to your mom.

Also, come on, kind of applaud the confidence to fucking try. I mean, you know, open mic nighthead in front of the school. Yeah, but, dude, it's also when not was still kind of in.

So you think that was like the first joke you ever cracked publicly?

It might have been.

Probably has to.

Probably has to be, right?

I mean, probably. When did you ever address a group of people?

No, never.

Never. Right? So, first time ever for the whole first bad joke, crickets right out of the bat.

Maybe a couple kids who were like, dude, this guy's fucking on to something, you know?

Well, some kids just like it when there's a little bit of chaos.

Like, yeah, yeah.

Say something stupid.

Yeah.

Give me something to think about other than my miserable existence, dude.

Yeah, yeah.

Which is a lot of people. That's a lot of online activity. Like, people just looking for someone to fail, so they go, yeah. Oh, yeah.

I don't read the comments right now. I'm trying not to right now.

When did you start doing that?

Maybe a couple years ago.

Oh, good for you.

I was reading both, and then it was just like, I. I'd love to live in, like, the present. Yeah, I know how. I think it felt good in the moment. Why would I want to take away anything from that? I don't know.

It's an unnatural way of human beings interacting with each other. It's not good for you.

Sometimes I look at stuff just to go like, oh, did they, like when Shane and I did the Trump Biden thing, I was like, I want to see if people are digging it. You read a few nice things, and then it's like, you just have to have self discipline to go but, you.

Know, but listen, you know, it's good. You know, that's good. It killed you guys when it was you guys doing Biden and Trump and going back and forth with each other. It was magic. It was hilarious. Thanks, man. You know what it is?

What a wild thing to have as far as, like, Snl does these political things. They're like, what, eight to twelve minutes, 2 hours of it. Like, that's a wild.

They can't even come close. They can't even come close. First of all, it's not possible for them to come close. They can't come close in the subject matter, and they don't have Shane. Shane is the greatest Trump that's ever existed.

I will put my Shane on that.

For Trump, writing for Trump. Like, if Trump was smart, he would. He would hire Shane and Tony Hinchcliffe to write on the road because Shane could show him how to do it. This is how. This is how you say the joke.

He would do when he came out and was doing the dance and the low clapping. I don't know if you saw this too, the way he was drinking his bud lights with two.

Fully in character. Yeah. If I mean for real, he could show Trump how to deliver the lines.

Dude, when we were, the first time, we did it, because Shane, I only maybe seen each other and chatted about ten times at clubs prior to that first time. So this is really another thing I love about comedy. It's like, we got to really kick it, like, this past weekend a lot and chum it up and, like, just get to know each other more because we were thrust into this thing kind of together, you know? And during the first time of the mothership, I lean over in character and I go. I go, hey, Shane, you realize is the most we've ever talked to each other. And then character goes, Joe, shut the fuck up. And I start fucking biting my lip. So funny, dude.

Yeah, it's a fun time for comedy and a fun time for politics if you're a comedian for the rest of the world. It's like, yeah, I said that when Joe Biden was operating the country, it felt to me like how I feel when my Tesla is on autopilot. Like, yikes, does this really work?

Oh, yeah.

You know, it's like, jesus.

Oh, yeah.

What's happening there? And now it's seeing you as Joe Biden. You're way more coherent than the actual Joe Biden, which is so nice. Yeah, you have some zingers.

What's the balance? You have to find, like, I can't just be. People were like, dude, just mumble and stumble, and you'll be fine. I'm like, I'm still there to be funny.

Yeah.

Like, I have to, you know?

But you figured out how to do it in character, too, which is fun, because you. You have that thing where you can do the bumbling, and it's actually funny, like, you on purpose bumbling, you know, because sometimes he just bails. Yeah, he just bails on what he's saying and just, you know, we gotta. We beat Medicaid.

That's what I said on the first. I go, we beat Medicaid. Megatron. We took down the transformers.

Yeah.

And even when I got there with a tell, I go, we got David. Tell Dave Chappelle. We got Adele up here. Come on.

How long did you do the character before you did it on Kil Tony? Did you fuck around with it, or did you just. Oh, no. Just.

I'd done a couple, like, voices in my act, talking about the debate maybe, you know, some. Oh, so that was the first time doing it. I done Phil Jeremiah Walkins, and I did a bunch of during COVID like, lost Phil episodes, and that's kind of how I started to find whatever my version of it was that. But this was just the first.

Have you met him?

Who?

Doctor Phil.

No, that's hilarious. But I think he's gonna come on my show at the store in.

How are you gonna feel when I meet him?

Press, start choking.

Handle it better than you handle Jim Carrey.

Oh, God. Fuck. I think so. Yeah. So for your sake, it'll be awesome. What I want to happen.

Tense.

Yeah. What if he's. What if he just. Is that. Honestly, when they were playing, I need.

To be in charge of what you're allowed to say. You might be saying things, you know, he might get to.

I thought he was going to come out at Madison Square Garden when they played that video montage, when they put me in the kil Tony hall of fame, I thought he was going to come out behind me and, I don't know, fucking, like, stab me in the back and go, we won't be right back.

That would have been funny.

Just take me down.

Yeah, he's.

I think. I think he'll be. I want him to come out on my show at the comedy store, and when they announced Doctor Phil, he comes out instead, and then everybody goes nuts. And then I come out, we shake hands and chat for about 2030.

Well, kill Tony's so big now, I could see him coming out, especially now, because he's got. That.

Got a network.

Yeah, he's got some stuff to sell, dude.

I plug his book on every episode of the show. People buy books now, Joe, and bring them to my club dates and have me sign and do a thing. Tiffany Haddish was on one of the shows, and I go, tiff, this guy's got a question for you. And he's like, tiffany, I can't stop. I stopped drinking, but I can't stop jerking off. And she goes, you gotta stop jerking off. She goes, you can go blind. You jerk off too much, you're gonna go blind. I go, I actually talk about that in my book. We've got issues. I go, chapter 25. If you come too much, you're gonna lose your ability to see the world. So I'm, like, finding ways to, like, plug the book, and now I'm sure I'm happy.

That'll definitely sell.

I think that's kind of not a bad move, right?

No, it's a very good move. Solid move. Good move on your part. And it's.

It's a fun bit. And it's like, people now, like, I don't know.

No, it's definitely fun. But what would happen if you said, stop doing it?

Stop doing it? And it was fun. It was a fun run.

Okay.

You heard it here first. I don't.

Bro, let it go. It's.

I mean, there's no. I mean, it's parody, and it's all so I don't think there's a real. It would have to. I mean, there's. It'd be a cease and desist of some sort. Right.

Well, parody is an interesting thing. Right. Because people are really worried about parody now with AI. Cause there's a lot of parody now with AI, and people are thinking, like, there was this one Kamala Harris thing that was going around where it wasn't. She never said any of these things. This is the original speech that she gives, and this is, like, ridiculous version of, like, the worst thing that a person. Like, the dumbest God. Yeah. And it's AI. It's. And it's like, yeah, that's one of them weird ones. That's a weird one. Because if you could do that, then you could have people saying all kinds of things, like, if that's okay to take, like, a famous person who's, like, the vice president of the United States and have her say a bunch of shit that she didn't really say, because it's parody. Like, you can kind of get a little slippery with that, like, you can get, like, subtle parodies.

Yeah.

Where it's like, you barely know that she's not saying those things.

Yeah.

And then it becomes like, people believe it's real.

It's pretty obvious, though, right? The videos of these.

Not always, man. They're getting good. They're getting really good. They're getting really good. They're getting close enough that they could trick a lot of people. And I think the best version of it now is pretty fucking tight, man.

The vocal stuff is pretty wild.

It's all wild.

Yeah.

They can take your voice and have you say almost any. Anything. And if they do a good job with it and manipulate it and tweak it, like, the intonations, God, they get.

It's, like, so God damn scary.

There's still a little part of you that listens to it and goes, this seems a little fake.

Yeah.

But I always wonder if, like, if I didn't know that it definitely wasn't real, I wonder if I would. It would feel fake to me.

Yeah.

You know?

Yeah, I don't know. I feel like. Yeah, I don't know. They said we're gonna have flying cars about now, and it's not happening, so maybe AI won't be as scary.

They do have flying cars.

Yeah. But, like, a part of society and.

Yeah, they're not common, but they would help in the hurricane place as long as you don't catch them winds.

I remember when Dallas had Uber helicopters for about two months, bro.

Could you imagine if Florida had flying cars and hurricanes? In the middle of the hurricanes, you know, there'd be a bunch of those same kind of dudes that shoot out their window at people in road rage. They would be flying in winds that they shouldn't be flying in and crashing into the whole highway in a burst of flames and killing everybody. And it would be on YouTube reels the next day.

Florida is the guinea pig of states for all the stuff that's.

Well, it's a state that was essentially founded. Okay, there's two findings. Right? There's original. The Spaniards landed in Florida first. The first city was in Florida in this country, right? So you have, like, the colonizers, the first original colonizers land in Florida. Then, you know, all the fucking prisoners that Castro releases, he gets them out and puts them on fucking boats and sends them to Miami. And then you have the crazy cocaine days in the 1980s, and then you have an economy that has. There was more, at least at one point in time. Find out if this is true. Still, there's more banks per capita in Miami, like, for a city than anywhere else in the country, because it was all money, money laundering. People were just, like. They were moving money around with cocaine, and people were making millions of dollars and putting it in trash bags and digging holes in their backyard. You ever see cocaine cowboys?

No.

Fucking incredible. Fucking incredible documentary. And it's all this cocaine, too? Yes. It's all about cocaine in Miami. At one point in time, one graduating class, the Miami police academy, every single one of them either went to jail for corruption or Washington murdered.

Oh, my God.

The entire class, it was just cocaine. Everyone was out of their fucking. They're all on it, and they're all committing crimes on it, and they're all making millions of dollars, and they're all going to nightclubs at Scarface. It's. Scarface was based on that.

My God.

Brian de Palma. Scarface written by. Was Oliver Stone, right? Didn't Oliver Stone write it?

Sounds right.

It is. Right.

For how long? How long was this time? A couple years or what?

Like a decade? More. Maybe more than a decade. Maybe 20 years. I had a buddy who was an ophthalmologist who did his residency at a university in Miami during the cocaine days. He said, dude, it was nuts. It was nuts. Gunshot wounds, stab wounds, people with things up their asses. Like, so many people got brought into the emergency room with things they stuffed up their ass while they were coked up.

What? I didn't know that was a side effect.

Army soldiers thought it was, like, stories. Soldiers? No, no. Like, light bulbs. The ones that are shaped like pine cones stuff light bulbs up their asses. Like, people are doing all kinds of wild shit and being brought into the emergency room.

I thought coke was just supposed to be like, you just. You take the party up a notch and, you know, there's more fun.

It depends on where you start.

Like, hey, man, in some places, up the ass was how.

Yeah, like those fucking swingers in Tampa already on the 29th floor. It's not much of an elevator to get them to the roof. You know? These fucking people are out of their minds.

Yeah.

And the whole town was.

Wow.

Like, founded by cocaine.

Wow.

And it still has that feel, this party feel to that city still.

Yeah, I'm sure.

Cocaine still an issue there, but, I mean, it's not the whole thing. Wow. But it's like, that's a frivolous area. I always say, if you want to starve to death, open a bookstore in Miami the fuck up. We're out here stunting pot.

Doesn't pot hasn't had a similar type.

I don't know, effect on the town. Yeah, not really, right? Maybe pot and LSD was San Francisco in the seventies. Sixties, but like, not really.

You know, people were putting stuff up their butts and whatever.

No. Well, that's reefer madness stuff. That's the opposite of what you would do if you're Ohio. You would not take. You'd take that toy soldier and you go. If I put this in my ass, what if I get stuck? You start freaking out. What if I have to go to the hospital? It's stuck in my house. I'm not doing it. When you're on coke, you're like, get up there, soldier.

Do your fucking. Where there's a will, there's a will. Do a deserter.

What did you sign up for the protector? Piece of shit. You're codes up out of your mind.

I did one of Joey Diaz's Death stars. The last time I did his pod when he was in LA.

Yeah, he would do that. Do you?

That might be the highest I've ever been.

Income. Uncomfortable, very dangerous. Bad for people's psyche.

I was good for about 20 minutes and then. Don't remember what happened after that.

Yeah, he takes people, he throws them into the darkest pits of their soul.

Thank God. He just talked that like I was. So I got quiet, remember? Looked over at Leo one point and I was just like, I don't know if I can say anything else.

Least probably asleep.

Yeah, he was.

Lee was probably asleep standing up.

Joe would finish the story and go. And then. And we will got here. And then. Let me tell you something. This one time we were. And I was like, when he got real low like that, I was like, okay, I think. I think this. I got another ten minutes to be quiet because another story. And then it was your brain. Totally. Catch. Wow, dude. What a great way to put it.

Yeah, catch it. Where is it? Where's my fucking brain?

And then over here.

You know how to think?

Yeah. I'd never been so paranoid. Breathe. Just breathe. The amount of times I told myself to breathe was terrifying.

The old days of the church, of what's happening now is all just Joey doing edibles. Yeah, insane amounts of edibles. And just being obliterated with Lee Syette. Like, there's some episodes where his eyes are closed and he's just rocking back and forth. He's hallucinating, he's watching like neon cartoons fuck behind his and eyelids.

I remember he gave him another Death star when he was like, dad, he was like, eat another way easily, and I'll go. And he was like. He'd woke up to eat it, and then he. I mean, it was. Yeah, I was wild, but it was like, you know, I wanted to be. I wanted to participate.

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

How do you not.

You have to.

Yeah.

If you're doing Joey show.

Yeah.

You have to be on the same wavelength. Otherwise it'd be rude.

But I was it totally a sober.

Person listening to that conversation. Like, what are you saying? Yeah, dude, he's in another dimension right now.

Oh, my God.

He's literally in another dimension. He's gone. He's gone.

Eyes in the back, over, always smiling. So he was on some sort of a journey.

But listen, he's on the church. What's happening now with Joey Diaz having a great time. I know, which is when you want to be like, that fucked up on edibles. You're around nice people, having a wonderful time.

By the way, another stamp in the comedy zeitgeist or the history books of, like, I'm. I feel very flat fortunate to have been in a time where I got to be around that and then beyond. You know what I'm saying? Like, be. I mean, obviously you guys been homies forever, but, like, yeah, that's, like, you know, that was a staple in time.

Well, also, it doesn't exist anymore. Like, people forgot. I keep trying to tell him to bring back the church, and I'm trying to get him and Lee together again to do. I think they're talking about it. And Lee was out here when he was out here. Goddamn, those two together were so fun. Yeah, it's just Joey Diaz. Like, that was so funny. He's so. It's just so Joey Diaz. And if you know him, you love him. Like the one on the July 4 one when he was, like, screaming, you're a fucking american. He's like, the background, the Joey Diaz state of the union. It's incredible.

Those are also some of the wildest nights at the store that I will never forget in the OR. I've seen a lineup that's just, you know, Tom, Bill, you, Joey, like, you bring up Joey or Joey, bringing up you is a half hour that I don't think I'll ever forget. Dude, that's so wild. And I know you get that now at the mothership and what you guys are doing here and what you've created. But, man, like, seeing it for the first time of it, of me seeing it, is what I'm, I guess, getting of being and getting to a point to where it was like open mics at the store. Then I did phones for a few years, and then being a regular, then just being around and being around enough to be comfortable to stick around and sit in a bucket seat and watch that transition happen was wild, dude. The, the fucking, the pops and the roars and then you, you sitting down and watching him was so fucking cool, you know? I don't know, that's, that's other stuff that, that is not, um. You have to just be around to see that.

Like, that was like, you could do that then and you could hang out in the back and you didn't get bothered and you could, you know, the store was, that was an interesting time of the store because it was like, it was so heavy. There were so many killers, there was so many people there. It was just, it was such a magnet for crazy people too. So there's this energy in that place that was so different.

Yeah.

You know, that's also because it's like Zero's nightclub. People were killed there, you know.

Oh, really?

Bugsy Seagull, you know those story? Oh, my God. Bugsy Seagull owned it.

I just know it was a nightclub.

That's about as far as a mob run nightclub.

Holy shit.

Yeah. I'm sure you've talked to people that have seen ghosts there, right? Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, how many other place for people have seen ghosts? I know that's like the most ghostiest of ghost places in LA. We talk to, like, those fucking ghost freaks.

Oh, really?

They're really into that, man. That's like, there's a bunch of stories about the comedy store being haunted. Yeah, like, I know multiple people that have seen ghosts there. Carla Bow used to have a crazy story about sleeping on the stage and like, something grabbed his leg and dragged him to the end of the stage. And then he heard a bunch of chairs clink and the door slammed and there was no one in the room. He was asleep on the stage. He got kicked out of his apartment. He's had a fight with his girlfriend. Fuck you, I'm gonna make it. You know, that kind of shit. He's young and he was working as a doorman for the store, so he had a key. He goes and he said, I'm gonna sleep on the stage because I'm gonna fucking make it in comedy. And then he's on stage and he hears a noise like a chair's clinking. He's like, hello? Hey, it's me, Carl. I'm here. I got kicked out of my place. So I'm just sleeping on the stage. Hey, who's there? And he hears like a sound again. He doesn't see anything. And then all of a sudden a hand grabs his leg and drags him like 6ft.

And then let's go.

Oh my God, dude, that's fucking terrifying.

Yeah, I mean, maybe he lied, but it's amazing story the way he would tell. I want to believe. I want to believe.

I want to believe too.

I've never heard anybody get touched by a ghost though. It might have been one of his friends. He might have been blackout drunk. One of his friends Carl, sleeping on the stage. Let's fuck with him. And they probably never told him. They probably forgot they did it. They did acid and fucking a pile of coke.

That sounds more believable.

Yeah, because he was a part of Kinison's crew, right, right. And so like Mark Maron said that when he. He partied with Kinison so hard that he had voices in his head for a year. A year after he got back, he left, went to Boston after he was hanging out in Los Angeles and he had voices in his head for like a year.

Saying what?

I don't know. Not good things. I'm sure they're never good voices.

Start a podcast in your garage.

That took years to get to happen. This is like the nineties, you know? This is like not even. This is the eighties.

That's right.

This is like when I met him, it was 88. So this is like.

So these are leftover residual voices from.

They did so drugs. They did so much coke that he like had voices in his head.

Where's that? I guess I just. The coke.

Probably a breakdown of the natural neurochemistry.

Fucking with your brain. Someone.

Yeah, 100%. You're robbing your brain of its ability to produce dopamine. Like you destroy all your serotonin levels. You fuck with everything when you go that hard with coke and then you have to get off. Like those guys get wrecked.

Wow.

I've met people that are getting off coke and they are wrecked. Like just. It's just empty and they're so drained.

Fuck.

It's just like it just fucks together and it makes you want to do more coke. Get back on the horse hair, the dog.

And we're back.

And we're back. Yeah, I'd see it. Oh my God. That's a demon. That's demon in powdered form.

It's not around as much anymore at clubs or something. Oh really?

Yeah, it's around all over the place the problem now. It's got fentanyl in it.

And.

Yeah, kill you.

Fuck that.

People are still doing it. That's how nutty coke is. They're gonna roll the dice.

Crazy.

I know it's not from the cartel.

It's fucking wild. I don't even take. People are bringing me weed now all the time, which I appreciate, but I. I mean.

Well, they found weed with fentanyl.

Yeah, I know. And it's also like, did one kid, he had a bag. It was a comedy castle. Roy oak. And I walk in the bathroom, he pulls out this little bag, and he goes, brought you something. And it's just all baggy. A shake. I go. I go, oh, man, thanks, bro. I'm just trying to reply. I go, thanks, man. He goes, there's more where that came from. I go, can I be honest? This looks like it just fell out of your pocket. He's like, yeah, but I mean, but I brought you the bag. I was like, the gesture, sweet, but, like, I just feel like this is not the move. Like, maybe if it was a nice joint, maybe in a tube and stuff. He's like, okay, you're Hollywood guy, huh? I'm like, that has nothing to do with it. It's just there's a bag that was stuffed in your cargo pants.

Of shake.

Yeah. Of shake.

Yeah. You know, joints that are sentinel.

Yeah. Other days on that.

Yeah, yeah. You can't today. You know, there's places that are trying to outlaw fentanyl tests, which is insane.

Who's doing that?

Where is that happening? Is that a Texas thing? Where's that happening? Where they're outlawing the fentanyl tests? And the. I think the concern is that it would encourage people to do drugs or sell drugs, and that maybe the thing that's going to discourage them is the fact that people are dying from it, which is an insane way. Jesus, let's. Let's just prevent people from dying.

Yeah.

First, I guess the fear is that it would make people feel like it's safe to do coke again. Center for Disease Control and Prevention and most public health agencies endorse distributing fentanyl test strips to people who use drugs. The practice is illegal in 42 states and the district of Columbia. Wow.

Oh, my God. That feels like way too many places.

That's insane. I thought it was, like a state. I thought it was, like a Florida thing. Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, North Dakota, and Texas. They are now allowed in every state except Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, North Dakota and Texas. That's nuts. Texas.

Easy way to save lives.

Jesus Christ. That's insane.

Bummer.

Why does Texas have it illegal? Why are fentanyl strips illegal in Texas? Texas is one of the few states where fentanyl strips are still illegal and considered drug parties. One argument that has been made against the test strips and other harm reduction practices is that they may encourage people to do drugs or continue doing drugs. So let's just kill them. Let's just kill them. Let's let your kids die because they made a mistake, because they're 16 and someone gave them some coke and they wanted to be a cool kid. That's insane. That's insane. Yeah. We don't want to encourage kids to do drugs. Correct. And, you know, the way to do that is to have positive role models who aren't doing code.

Yeah, that's.

That's the best way to do it. Yeah, it's the best way is, you know, your favorite country music singer doesn't do coke. You know, like, maybe that. Maybe your favorite athlete doesn't do coke. He tells you, listen, I don't do coke. You shouldn't do coke. It's fucking scary.

Fuck, dude.

Yeah. Fuck.

That is wild.

Crazy. You would have a test trip and make it illegal. You could save lives. That's the only way. You should look at that. You're gonna say, save lives. They're already doing something illegal. You know, you're not encouraging or discouraging. If it was not killing people, probably the same exact amount of people would be doing coke.

I can't believe that we got rid of. What was it, Jamie? Sun bubble. What was the place that you pulled up? The hot tub, the cum tub place? We got rid of those, but we can't get fentanyl strips approved.

Crazy. Well, also, the real elephant in the room is, why is it a problem? Why are these drugs tainted? And it's because they're illegal. Yeah, that's the problem. And the problem is we don't want to make them legal because we don't want to encourage drug use. I get that, too. But the thing is, we're going to find the only way you're going to make it safer for human beings to do these stupid things and live is if you make it legal. It shouldn't be legal in terms of, like. I mean, it should be. It certainly it should be legal, but it shouldn't be something that someone can profit off. It shouldn't be something that someone can sell to people. Maybe the best way to do it would be to make drugs free and legal.

Sure.

Like, if you want to, like, if you. I catch you selling coke, your death penalty. But if you want to give away coke, if you want to make coke and give it away, it's totally illegal. If you want to make your own cocaine or a pharmaceutical drug company makes cocaine, they can sell that cocaine for exactly what it cost to make it. Nothing more. Okay, so no one's going to. Yeah, but then the drug. Well, then. Then you will have a supply problem, and then you'll have my idea. I bailed on it.

It was adorable to watch it go.

Because I was like, no, because then people just don't make it, and they'll start to get the fentanyl all back. You gotta allow pharmaceutical drug companies to profit. Otherwise they have no incentive to make it. Then they're gonna tell you. They're gonna have fucking ads like CNN brought to you by cocaine. That's gonna be the Anderson Cooper show.

Brought to you by crack cocaine news.

That's what it would be. It'll pharmaceutical drug companies sponsor those shows now. Right? It'll be cocaine sponsors.

I would watch a full news network that was just everyone's fucked up, responsible use of cocaine.

Little. Whoa. Before you talk about the weather, I'm gonna talk about the weather.

If you're gonna have any segment of the news.

Whoa.

You better got two coats on today, baby.

You better get that fucking car gassed up. You're gonna be in 56 hours of traffic. Let's go.

It's gonna be hot.

Let's go. I'm not even going anywhere. I'm gonna ride this motherfucker out in the basement. Meanwhile, your basement gets flooded. Some of those places get flooded. I was watching the last hurricane. This whole community is underwater. Did you see any of that, Jamie? There's a community in Florida, and it was. It was not even in the flood zone. And they're all underwater. Their houses are underwater. Everything's underwater.

No, thanks.

Yeah, not good, dude. Not good at all. You're living in a place where the sky becomes an angry monster and could snuff out life.

Have you scuba dived?

No. Fuck all. No, thanks. I know there's sharks out there.

My wife is like, we don't know. I think 73% of the ocean, she's.

Just like, it's 90.

Yeah, it's gotta be.

I think it's 90.

Every day there's a new fish or dolphin or whale, and you're like, do. I just saw this video of. I think it was a swordfish coming out and, like. Like, flying across the. But whatever did he popped out of the water. I was like, I didn't know they could fucking jump like that. Yeah, no, thanks, dude.

This kid was on my podcast recently. Bob Gimblen is his YouTube channel. He had a very interesting point. He said he thinks that, and this is coming from someone else who observed this. He thinks that sharks are attacking people not even to eat them. They're attacking people because they don't want them there. Because they're getting in the way of the seals and all the things they eat. That's why they're killing people. They don't want you in their water. And I was like, oh, my God. That makes sense.

A thousand percent. I mean, we thought about, what are we doing there?

I want to think of them as, like, these fucking thoughtless killing machines. They're just biting everything.

Imagine just walking into a stranger's house, opening the door, just opening their fridge. You guys might make some tater tots. That's what we're doing in the ocean.

There's a video of a kid in Hawaii who's on a small, like, paddle board, like, fishing off a paddle board and a fucking tire. Tiger shark bites the paddleboard. Have you ever seen that video? It's terrifying, but it is. I mean, if you wanted to think about it. Look, the kids out there fishing.

Yeah.

So he's stealing fish from the sharks.

Sorry.

Yeah, like, the shark knows that that's not a fish.

Oh, God.

Is this dude, you watch this. This is crazy. So he's on your fish. Look at this, bro. Target shark rammed me. No, no. Bit you, bro.

Rammed me.

Yeah, that thing bit him. Watch this. Oh, look at that. It bit the boat, man. It bit the boat.

You're taking food out of its mouth, and it's family's mouth again. You walk into a stranger's house, you take the meatloaf sandwich out of your kid's mouth, your dad's gonna punch you in the face for sure.

That's not a fish.

Shark attacks. Seems like that may be the worst way to. I mean, die for sure, but, like.

It'S a horrible way to die. Oh, first of all, you can't get away. And they move real fast, and you can't move at all. It's not even like a bear on the ground. You feel like you maybe can run, maybe run up a tree.

You saw this video with an alligator attack where it's like, if it bites your leg, you're supposed to roll with it and then play dead. And then you like playing the playing dead thing always to me. I'm like, you're not that good of an actor.

Good luck keeping it together. Why? Thing is clamped on, dude, I don't.

Even think Pacino could fake dead in front of a gator. I think they're gonna be like, dude.

Keep you underwater until it knows for sure. So you have to not move. Yeah.

You're not like, are you that zen to reduce your panic around a gator attack?

Nobody is.

Nobody is.

Nobody is.

But, yeah, but a shark, dude, that just feels. And then say, punch him. They say punch him. Who's got enough wherewithal or just, you know, in the moment.

Who survived that's punched a shark? Shark was wrapped around their torso. I don't know who survived.

Maybe Tom Burger, he's gonna rip you in half.

Yeah, you're done. Bite force is insane. Yeah, it's got filled with knives.

Go to your happy place. You know, imagine the last moments.

You're looking down at your entrails and no legs. And that's it. That's the end. Wow.

How long do you think you get to look at that before?

Seconds. You get a few seconds. What does that thing buy? Biting? Oh, my God. Mouth. Oh, my God. It's just a killing machine. But it does make sense what he's. And now that I see that video, that's a great perspective of the shark biting the boat. That totally makes sense.

Taking his snacks.

Yeah. Cuz I used to think that it was. Oh, just. They'll bite anything. No, they're mad that you're there. Get out of here, bitch.

Cuz they're pretty smart, right?

Or no.

Okay. Okay.

They're. Well, they're ancient. Most. Most of these really ancient things that haven't changed at all since the dawn of time, they're not that smart because they're just about killing. Wow. Like, if you think about how old sharks are. I think sharks are older than trees. Yeah. I think sharks predate trees on earth. See if that's true. 99% sure it's true.

I talk about that in my book. We've got issues. Sharks are older than trees.

450 million years old.

Wow.

Tree is 350 million years old. So there was sharks for a hundred million years before there were ever trees.

That's fucking wild, dude.

Why? And they're out there in the water and you want to scuba dive? Adam Ray.

No.

The fuck is wrong with you, bro?

I'll go to sun bubble with you.

They're gonna see you down there with your stupid gear and then. Fucking cocksucker. You're ruining my fishing. Yeah, yeah, no, thank you, sir. Uninterested.

Okay. Not even glad we're on the same.

Page depiction of that shark. Oh, my God. What kind of shark is that?

Little bandsaw in its mouth.

Is that the early sharks? Helio Coprion. That's what its mouth looks like.

240 million year old fish.

Jesus Christ. You ever see the movie the Meg?

Oh, yeah.

One of dumbest movies it's ever been made.

Yeah.

It's so dumb. Like, while you're watching it, like, what have you done to me, dude?

And even Statham Washington. Just like, we gotta see what's down there. No, you don't, Jason. Go back to fucking the italian job two or things biting the window. Yeah.

Crashes through the moon. Giant 50 foot shark. It was.

What about open water? Was that the name of that one where was just all shot. Found footage.

Yeah. That was a good one, though.

It was good because it was realistic.

Yeah, the Meg is. The Meg two is even dumber. Yeah, it's even dumber than the Meg one. Yeah, but they're fun. It's a fun dumb.

You know, those are good popcorn movies from enjoyable.

You know, that's not really happening. Imagine it's like a megalodon down there. But there could be. That's what everybody thinks.

Maybe that's what took the. The rich guys in the submarine that went down there. Do you think something big got him? No.

Yeah. Incompetence.

Yeah.

Human folly. I think that gets more people than sharks. You know, that's a big one.

I do like the idea that the further down, like all the way down there, there's something like where the Titanic really where at the fucking very bottom is something that's living down there that's just. You can't even comprehend. That's never even trying to come up. But if you go all the way down there like they did, or you make it down for whatever. I saw Will Smith in some video where he went down, right. With some people for some discovery show. Like really down there to where it was like, they shouldn't be down there. Even these astronauts are going to space that are stuck. There's February. They're stuck, Joe.

Why can get them?

Why are we still going like, what are we. Is down here not good enough?

Yeah, but it's also. If they can get them in February.

Are you fucking serious?

Yeah. What if that doesn't work? What if. What if something goes wrong with that? Something went wrong, which is why they can't get them. Guess what? Things go wrong. And you might not have rockets available that can do it. You might not have a shuttle available to get them. You might not be able to fucking. You might have, like, some sort of problems in your software. Who fucking knows, man?

Dude, that's so scary. And they have to, like, either be saved by a. Another, I guess, SpaceX.

Just make friends with the Russians. Have the Russians bring them home.

There you go.

I bet they can get them. Wouldn't that be funny? That's a nice slap in the face. Yeah, dude, I'll do you a favor.

Nice putin.

Go get your friends. Okay? Yeah, just put them nice. And you'll be nice with me? I'd be nice with you. Friends. We gave you Brittany Greiner. We'll bring back your astronauts. Yeah.

Or give us background.

There was a sound that was recorded, recorded once by underwater microphones that was a biological sound that was louder than anything that any animal had ever made before. And they don't know what it is. Do you see if you can find that? I mean, it might not be this, but remember the other day, the hump? Wait, whatever. Make a fucking. Oh, yeah, they make crazy sounds, but I don't think they. They think they took that into account. And this is different. This. They don't know what it is and they never found. But whatever this thing is, it sounded biological.

Oh, God.

Like it was a biological sound. It wasn't a geological sound. It wasn't like a sound the earth makes or, you know, a little underwater earthquake. There's something about the sound that they determined it to be biological, which is like, what? Yeah, we talking about. Is there fucking godzilla down there now.

Finding out about this something called the bloop?

Yeah, that's it. That's it.

Doesn't sound very scary.

What is it? 19 what, 1997. We'll put up the details of it, so could read it. Do you have an article on it? Just making sure it was right. Yeah. So whatever the sound was, they don't know what the fuck it was. And 1997, National oceanic and Atmospheric Administration recorded a mysterious underwater sound that lasted for 1 minute and was detected by hydrophones 5000 miles apart. The sound was named the bloop and came from a location off the coast of Chile. The bloop captured people's imagination led to theories about what it could be. Such as the call of a dinosaur, an undiscovered sea creature or a giant squid. In 2005, NOAA scientists discovered that sound was actually caused by an iceberg breaking away from the Atlantic glacier. Oh, shit. What the fuck, dude? I didn't even know. So they solved it. I was hoping it was a fucking monster. That was the only one. There wasn't one. So that's what it was. So it was probably one of those things where they had talked about it for so long that it is stuck in my head that it was a biological thing. I still have hope.

An article in 2017 talking about it where they say they don't know what it was. Oh, okay, so this is someone trying to cover up for Godzilla. That's what that is. That's some state sponsored CNN type bullshit.

Wow.

They're trying to cover up for the fact there's a goddamn loop. You're reading the AI overview, so maybe it made up the answer. Oh, AI, you piece of shit. You fucking lied. That's probably what it is, you know, AI lies.

What?

It's thing called hallucination. Hallucinations. If AI does not have an answer to something, it will come up with an answer. And then that could be searched from the web, right? So it could be some blog somewhere where some guy made up something about it was an iceberg that caused that sound. And AI will spit that back out. Yeah, it's a thing that AI does when it doesn't know the answer to something. Apparently they call it hallucinations. This is coming from AI? Scientists told me this.

I don't want AI to have hallucinations.

They don't even know how it works, dude.

Fuck.

They even know exactly why it's doing what it's doing. They don't know. They don't know how it's being creative. What?

Once you see those things too, about like, some of these robots, like, what was that thing? It was like, I don't know, it had feet. Having them have feelings or any sort of.

They're not gonna have feelings. That's even scarier. They're gonna be able to think really clearly without any emotions. No remorse, no morals, no ethics, no worrying if people like them, no reading the comments. They don't give a fuck. They're fucking robots, man. That's my fear about aliens. My fear is that that's what aliens are. They've, they've already bypassed the, the human body and all of our primate systems. Oh, yeah, they've bypassed all that. They're all, they're all gone. That's all gone.

Do you think they listen to our podcast?

Yes, a hundred percent. They're in. They're listening right now. They love it.

What up, guys?

It's fun for them because they don't get to think stupid anymore. Yeah, you know, because everything's clear right. It's like, you know, it's like you want a little bit of chaos, and they don't have any chaos left. I think that's why they visit us. That's why, like, in my special, I said that I think aliens look at us the same way we look at Waffle House fights.

That's right.

What the fuck is going on over here?

What if the aliens, like, love Danny DeVito? Like, what if their favorite actor is.

Like, they love despicable me.

Despicable? Yeah. They love them.

We love Gru.

Yeah.

Yeah. Maybe that's it. I mean, who fucking knows? But if these lying AI cocksuckers, do we find out about that 2017. I found another thing in 2024. Said, same thing with the iceberg. Okay, so it might be real. Might have just been an article. They were putting that in the headlines. People would watch their video. Oh, right. Probably. And what year was it? With the. What? They recorded that sound. It was recorded 97. Yeah. See anything back in those days, that's. You know, like, you didn't even have. Barely had the Internet in 97.

Yeah. Not enough facts together.

How do you know what you're talking about?

Anything pre Internet, I don't believe you.

Could be a biological sound. Could be a dude. Just instant into dinosaurs.

Sure.

You know, but there's probably some shit down there we haven't discovered, I think so. They always find new fish. Like, there was a bunch that washed ashore during a tsunami. They were like, what the fuck is this? Was that in Thailand, where there was, like, a gang of them that washed ashore in a tsunami? These undiscovered deep sea creatures.

Cool.

Crazy. Like, blind things. Live in the place where there's absolutely no.

They can pop up and show up here. I don't think we need to go down and try to find them.

Yeah. Wait for a storm.

Yeah. Wait for the storm to come through.

They'll wash up. Yeah. Dude, that was in Oregon. Look at that fucking thing.

Oh, yeah. I'm going out of my way to find that. Fuck off.

That's some kind of an angler fish.

Oh, my God.

Which is one of the craziest inventions in nature that nature invented. A fish that has a fishing rod off of its nose?

Yeah. Yeah.

Like, how does that even happen? Look at that fucking thing. Is that real? Come on. That can't be real.

Oh, my God.

Is that real? I know this one above. It is not, but. I don't know. The thing is with AI man, they. You could think something's real, and they just fuck with you. And this is in the New York Post. They might have got that 2017. Jesus. We'll go pre AI. But wait a minute. They probably did a sample of that thing. What is it? Let's find out what it is. I bet they figured it out. Look at it. Hmm.

Fangtooth.

Could be a fang tooth snake. Eel, or garden or conger eel. All three species occur off Texas and have large fang like teeth. Look at that thing. Imagine if, like, we lived in the ocean. Show me the picture of that again. Imagine we live in the ocean. You got to deal with that.

There's more. I'm surprised Pixar they did finding nemo, but, like, let's get, like, they should do something that's, like, highlighting all these lost creatures. There's got to be an underwater lost city where you can see the.

Yeah. Mermaids versus monsters.

Yeah, they should.

Why don't they do that? Fang two. Snake.

Jesus.

Look at that fucking thing.

Mermaids aren't real, right?

I hope so. I hope they're real.

I know.

Me too.

Those things where I'm like, I don't fuck. Like, who the fuck knows, dude?

But isn't it like, the. Probably not a beautiful girl and says, no vagina. Yeah, she's just fish. She's a fish.

Yeah.

Like, fish don't have sex.

What are you supposed to do there?

The part where you have sex with doesn't exist. It's all just. Yeah, fish.

So how you lure any guy into the ocean?

You ever seen how fish breed the fish? The female lays their eggs and the guys just jizz all over it. Yeah. Like, we used to catch rainbow trout when I lived in Boston. And we'd go to this lake and catch rainbows, and they would be jizzin when you pull them out of the lake, like, because it would be the time where they're spawning and they're making bait and you're allowed to fish for them. At least back then you were. And you're pulling them out as they're jizzing. Like they're. As you're holding it. Like there's nothing all over the place. Trying to get their last loads out before you filet them.

Wouldn't you. If a bear is about to eat you, wouldn't you just try to fucking empty the tank?

I guess no one's probably ever touched him before. It's probably really exciting.

There you go.

It's the first time going, like, imagine you just, like, blue balled all day long. You're so blue ball that you just jizz in the ocean. Yeah, on the floor.

Yeah.

I bet all they have to do is run a finger by you and you're like, gust of wind, you know, like, you ever seen where your dog is humping a leg?

Oh, yeah.

And the dog is just like, they start humping the air. Yeah, dude committed a fish. You grab them right when they're in that.

In the perfect spot, peak, rut.

Just, just squirt all over the place. Have you ever seen a fish do that?

No.

With rainbow trout. They would do it all the time. Would catch them. They'd be jizzing.

Good for them. What a life.

It's a bad death, though, you know.

Because you come in and die.

You failed. Yeah, you failed.

Yeah.

You just deliver the inside of a boat.

The opposite of what you're supposed to do.

Not good, but yeah. So if that is a mermaid, like, what the hell? What are you saying?

What's, why the little mermaid? I mean, she only, Eric was only into her because she came out of the water and had some humanity features.

Exactly.

And lost her voice.

Like, what the fuck?

Maybe that's why he was into her. He was like, dude, I've been dating all these, you son of a bitch. These girls that just talk too much and they're like, wow, I met a girl that just doesn't even want to.

Super hot, can't talk. But if she does talk, you can't have sex with her. She doesn't have vagina anymore. Yeah, take your pick, honey. You get sign language. All right, Adam, Ray, let's wrap this up, everybody. My pleasure. I appreciate you too. One more time. The name of the documentary, the documentary.

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