Yo, here we go. We haven't did this in a while. Haven't did this since Philly. Postgame with Pat Biff. One of my producers hit me one day. Obviously, real basketball fans, not the casual ones. If you watch basketball, you understand, Panthers and Nicos, they just won your early Championship, right? He had a good question. You all follow him, Tyler Miller, 508. The comparison between the NBA game and the EuroLeague game, the comparison between the NBA game and the EuroLeague game. Being very few that can actually talk about it. I played in Euro challenge. I played in Euro Cup. I played in Euro League. So I played in all the leads in Europe. And obviously, fortunate 10 plus, 11 plus, 12 plus years in the NBA. So if there's one more for that, I can talk about it. I can talk about it. So first off, shout out to Panthanaikos for winning the Championship. I played for Olympiakos. If anyone knows Panthanaikos, Olympiakos, Rivals. Don't get along Panthanaikos, they were green. Olympiakos, we were red. When I was there, Panthanaikos beat us. We won the Cup, but they beat us in the Greek Championship. I played in the EuroLeague, started the second half.

I think I was the youngest American to ever play in the EuroLeague Championship. I believe so. So that was fire as fuck. That was a vibe within it. We lost to Barcelona, the 10th of the year, Ricky Rubio, and those guys were there. So let's jump right into it. Okay, obviously, the biggest question, right? The money. For casual fans, of course, you guys know, guys in Europe don't make as much as guys in the NBA. Due to TV deals, due to the popularity of the sport in Europe, due to payroll, ball clubs, how much they have, how much they can give out. So the payroll isn't that big. Some teams have good payroll. When I mean good payroll, I mean, I don't know, max three, four million dollar euro, max. So the payroll isn't crazy. They can give someone $49 million. If they could, they would. So obviously, that's the forefront of everything, the money. I was on the team, Limpiakos, we didn't win a game we should have won. They dock pay. They wouldn't dare. You wouldn't dare do that in the NBA. But when we get away from the money, the travel, if we just stick strictly with basketball, you're talking about some of the most brilliant coaches to ever coach the game in Europe, to be able to run your offense through a pack paint.

Obviously, in the NBA, you can't stand a paint. Defensive three, and In Europe, you can stand there all night. You can swipe the ball off the top of the rim. It's harder to score. The physical play is much different. Refs, damn near killer, motherfucker, out there. The games are different, right? Every game in Europe, you play with a team concept of you have to win the game. In the NBA, some nights are different, right? Some nights are different. Some nights you don't have some guys playing. In Europe, everyone trying to play and fight through everything. You don't really have a lot of guys missing stuff unless it's something serious. If it's not something serious, guys are playing. Obviously, the rules are different. The three Three-point line is closer. But I want you all to understand my argument, right? I'm not take away the superstars, take away the, I don't know, half of the all-stars. I'm going to just say half. I'm not going to all of them. If you gave some guys that same opportunity you give guys in the NBA, you wouldn't really know the difference, besides the Steph Curry, the LeBron James, the KD, the Luca Dantzis, the Jason Tatum, the Jalen Brown.

I'm talking about the road players and the players right above the road players. If you took those guys and just swapped them out and no one knew what their name was on the back of the jersey, you couldn't tell the difference. Guys know how to play the right way. They play extremely hard. It's built on a team game. They understand the game. They know how to play the game. From being over there, I'm talking about some of the greatest minds I've been seeing people have. Theater of Papa Lucas, a guy who was a magician with the ball. Milos Teadosich, your league MVP, a guy who was a magician with the ball, but not just smart on the court, actually this smart, intelligent in life and just can show you things on a court that you be, damn, I didn't even see that. And I played with a ton of guys. I played with a ton of guys. But just the feel of the game, the vision of the game. You got to think these guys been doing this since they were 13, 14 years old. I know my former teammate, Milos, hit me with the pat.

When you was in school going over numbers, I was in there 30 minutes arm pass, right? 30 minutes arm pass left. 30 minutes chest pass, 30 minutes overhead pass. He said, Pat, we was doing this every single day. So the skillset, right? The skillset between the EuroLeague and the NBA, the skillset has always been there. I think the size, speed, physicality is starting to combine in Europe with the skillset. That's why you see guys like WMDBE and guys like Luka and guys like Jokuj. When it comes to a team camaraderie, and I haven't been around a lot of teams, but I have been around this team I play with Olympiaco Seniori. And I don't know if this was due to a team not having a lot of money, but they made us have roommates. We couldn't go home. If it was a game on a Monday and you had a shoot-around, it was a shoot-around. You get on a team bus with your team, they take you to a private hotel destination, and you ate lunch and You slept there and bus to the game, and you leave after the game. It's a lot of free time, a lot of idol time in the NBA.

Being professional, you should know what you do is maximize your time. And I understand that. But in Europe, That's not even your choice. You got to practice in the morning, you got to practice at night. So you're seeing your teammates, that shit. Twice a day on game days, you can't go back home and chill out and play video games. You can't do none of that. You with your teammate again? You're eating with your teammate, you in a locker room with your teammate, you with your teammate 24/7. So I think that's how that camaraderie was built well. I'm talking about I was fortunate to play for one of them, probably one of the greatest things I ever put together on paper, Olympiacos that you're talking about. I had three guys that was yearly champions, maybe four. No, I'm sorry. Maybe five, six guys on my team I was yearly champions. The guy who was the MVP for Panthanaikos, Sluukos, we was on the same team, Olympiacos. Didn't play at all, right? Didn't play at all. I didn't play damn near the whole season. I played a couple of games here, here, here, rolled the best the whole season.

We getting our ass killed in the Championship game. Coach said he started me second half of the EuroLeague Championship game. Couldn't believe it. Couldn't believe it. Turned up, picked up, got some steals, got some early plays, put us back in the game. So Yeah, shout out to the Olympiaco's coach. But the guy I was practicing with two, three times a day, Slukas. I think he was a year younger than me. Him and Papa Nicolal, we just... Young guys on the team, we just killing each other at the practice. I mean, at the practice and before practice, it's 15 guys on the team, and we're the youngest, and we got the first five, the second five, the third five, and it's us. So we had to fight and grind and go at each other and compete every single day, every single day, every single day. I was able to play in Olympiakos. Shout out to Olympiakos. Gate nine, shout out to Olympiakos. And obviously, I said before, our rivals was Panathanaikos, a team that just run a EuroLeague. And on that team was The same team that they wanted EuroLeague with, the Yamatidis. I couldn't even name all the guys on their team, but we're talking about some greats, some guys that are coaching in the EuroLeague now that was on their team winning the championships.

And yeah, I remember, elimination game. We couldn't finish the game. Our fans was pulling up seats. I remember I remember being that free throw line, lasers poked in your eye while you shoot free throws. I remember smoke bombs going off. I remember fans ripping chairs out. I remember getting hit in the head What a dollar coin. The shield's over your bench because you don't want to get spit on. Ball go out of bounds. They say, Pat, don't go over there. Why not, man? It's just a ball. I'll pick a ball. All numbers spit on the back of my fan, stopping Stopping games, hanging on the rims. I'm talking about some of the wildest shit that you've ever seen with basketball. It makes it that much better. It's a difference playing for your state and then playing for a country, especially a country that only has maybe one, maybe two really, really good teams, maybe only two teams in your league. Some countries only just have one. So the atmosphere was... I mean, something you can't even explain. You literally have to go there to understand it. And To be born in that, to be thrown in the fire at such a young age, that's why I probably have someone assessed in the playoffs.

I was just used to it at a young age. European coaches versus NBA coaching, right? I really feel like in Europe, if you're a really good coach, You're appreciated more, right? In the NBA, you get appreciated by how much you make. In Europe, they appreciate you by what you've done, the plays you've run, the amount of success you've had over and over, the ability to leave a team and go to another team and do the same thing, and to be able to coach against all these other great coaches who set the bar for coaches in Europe. I really believe that an NBA coaches, you hired to get fired. That's literally how it goes in NBA. It's not really like that. And if they hire you in Europe and you're a great coach, they want you their lifetime. When it comes to coaching like that, from my perspective, that's the one way I see it. So when I When I compare your league, NBA, I'm comparing the effect on every single game, right? And it's an effect on NBA games, of course, but play 82, You know you're not going 82 and 0 for any reason.

But over there, every game is important. You lose one, two games regular season, you might not even qualify. You lose a game that you shouldn't lose to a team that you shouldn't lose to, and you might not even qualify for your league. You If you're a league and you finish last team, you get kicked out or you got to play the team who won EuroCup and they might beat you out. So it's steady competition every game. You can't sit out. You can't like, okay, cool. All right. Okay. You all got this game. It's none of that. It's none of that. It's literally none of that over there. I'm talking about single game elimination versus seven games. You're talking about when to literally go home. Are the best product in Europe. So you're talking about guys who've played in Europe and had success in NBA and had success in Europe. So the talent is definitely there. But just the body of work It's just two different games, man. It's really two different games, and you have to play it to understand it. You really have to play it to understand it. And the practices are different.

I don't remember a day where I didn't do a two a day in Europe. I don't remember. Maybe one day, and I don't even remember that. But I'm just trying to not to overly, like sell it, no cap. So maybe one, maybe two days while I played in Europe four years and a half. So maybe one or two days where it was like no two a days. In the NBA, A lot of games, a lot of more games. So you got a lot of more off days. It's really not many back to backs in Europe like that. So back to back, give you day off, which is definitely well needed. The older you get an NBA. But it's not like that in Europe. Euroleague, EuroChallenge, EuroCup. You get your weights, you get this, you get all that. Two-hour practice in the morning, a 9:00 to 11:00 motherfucker, a 10:00 to 12:00 motherfucker. Then you come back at night, a 5:00 to 7:00 I'm up, 5:00 to 7:00. Watch film, get right to it. I'm talking about film every day. I'm talking about film every day. Not on, okay, you should blow by your guy. You work on your ones before or not to But when you're in practice, this is all team, all team, everything.

Pass, and I'm talking about back to the basics. You're talking about full-court layup lines. I had a coach tell me overseas, Yureis of Dots, one of my best coaches I ever played for to this day. Dote. He was on the Yugoslavian national team, and he was a defender, 6'4, Slovenian. But when he played, it was Yugoslavian national team. Played with Tony Kukoć, played with Drodz and Patrvich. I think he coached Goran Drodzic and his brother Zoran. He was the head coach of the Slovenian national team. So not only did I play for a really good coach, also played for a Coach who played high-level EuroLeague national team basketball. He used to... 17s every day, every single day. Why? Coach, why you want to do 17? Patrick, when I played, I always used to want to feel my legs when I played. My foot's just out there running seven teams. Time out. Curse you right out, right in your face. Not no disrespect. Just all for the team, all for the team, showing me how to play basketball the right way. I'm MVP of the league, it was on my ass, like back pockets. So shout out to you, Raza Dotez.

Just talk about the places I was playing, too. I played in EuroChallenge. Eurochallenge, we had to damn. Eurochallenge, we had to damn their bus everywhere. I played in EuroCup, that's the league above EuroChallenge. Okay, we flew some places. I play EuroLeague. We flew everywhere. The travel is different based on what the team you on. But when I was in EuroLeague, we flew to all the major Last Nation. I believe our final four was in Paris. We were able to play some NBA teams in a preseason. I think we played the San Antonio Spurs, and we played the Cleveland Cavaliers. Got a chance to play against LeBron and Shaq, Tony Parker, Tim Duncan, while I was playing for Olympiakos. So the competition, we were on paper, we were probably the best team ever put together in Europe. You're talking about Josh Child, just Von Wey, for Lenis Klaes, The Scuni Pan, Milus Tedosich, Arsenevujic, Yotam Haaparan, Slukas, who just won a Championship, Pam Nikolaou, Bic Sofo, they call them Baby Shaq, Milos Teadosich, Theodore Papalukas, Yannis Barussis. You're talking about legendary guys. To this day, legendary legendary players from top to bottom. So my European experience was great.

It's funny. I'm hitting K9, man. Shout out to K9, man. I know you watch the pod. Shout out to K9. We got to get him on the pod. He just won a Championship. He just got extension over there. He was just asking me, How was it when you was over there and this, that? And I just, Man, fuck all that. It ain't about me, K9. It's about you, man. So shout out to K9. You won Chip over there. I didn't win chip, so you got one up for sure. But we got to get K9 on the pod. So shout out to K9. Got to get you on the pod. Subscribe, subscribe, subscribe, subscribe, subscribe.