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My negative voice is with me as material. Going back to what you said, you know, Scorsese De Niro are huddling after you do this scene and you're not in the huddle, and you're thinking to myself, I'm fired. I was horrible. I can't believe I screwed this opportunity up. What happens next?We gotta do better.They came to you?No, me. I'm ahead.But what happened, though, after that?Nothing. Do it again. All right. I don't know what the hell they said, but we're doing it again. And then as time went on over the course of the day, doing the same scene over and over and over again, Scorsese would come out and give me a note. Joe Pesci came out and he started directing me a little bit, which I was like, is this.Am I supposed to be directed by an actor? Yeah. Yeah.But I guess Scorsese, I found out later on through Joe Pesci had said, you know, I guess Scorsese always thought Pesci should be a director because he always got good instincts. So that was something I think worked out with them where there's a scene where I'm telling De Niro's character off and I throw up my hand. And what Pesci had told me prior to that, he goes, this guy's gonna kill you in the next scene. You need to leave this scene. So he is so pissed off at you, he's gonna kill you. You can't leave here kind of nonchalant. You gotta leave here with some intention.Piss him off.Yeah, piss him off. And again, it's like, wow, that's a great note. But again, I go, why did I think of that? Even though this show I'm doing right now with bookie Chuck Lorre will come out and go, you know what? Do it this way because your character is feeling this right now. I'm like, why did I think of that? So he didn't have to come out and tell me that.But again, that's your thought process.That's my thought process.You think Kobe told his coaches, don't coach me after where they do a timeout when they're losing and he's like, don't tell me what to do. Think Michael Jordan. You know, when you're watching him back in Arlington Heights and you went to watch him in the arena, you think his coach has not given him some positive re encouragement and said, hey, here's what I'm noticing that you didn't see because it's a blind spot. You think Jordan's saying, screw you, coach, I'm gonna do it my way? No, I got it all figured out.No. Yeah. I mean, it's like, but here's where the insecurity comes in for me. It's like I put so much pressure on myself to be the best, and then when you fall short of it and somebody's gotta tell you, that's not the best, try it this way. I take it as like, that should have came up, but I've been, I'm becoming more, I'm adjusting my thought process when it comes to that because I've talked to other actors and they're saying when he's watching it on the screen, to your point, you're not seeing what he's seeing. You're here, he's there. So he's got a bird's eye view of what's happening, where you're kind of.And if you're thinking about what's on the screen, you're not on the flow.Not at all.When you got two kids, right?Two kids.They're five and seven.Five and seven, yeah.So when they were like one, one and a half and they were trying to walk and they kept falling over, did you, like, scream at them and say, hey, you should, you should have this already figured out, this walking thing.No, I didn't.You know, I mean, it's kind of like you've never trained to be an actor. How are you supposed to be this, like, world class actor your first few scenes?Yeah, I get it. But again, I would just think that I would be able to have enough instinct to become that. It's, again, that much is De Niro.And Scorsese in your first scenes ever. It's like, come on, you just never want to put so much pressure on yourself.You never want to be the weak. Even though you're a rookie on the football team. Right. And you're going to go out for a pass and you never played in the NFL before.True.You miss an open path. Boom, down. Yeah.You don't want to drop the ball.Your teammates like this. The pros, bro. Those mistakes you can't make, you know what I'm saying?True.Regardless if you're a rookie or a five year veteran, I think if you're playing in the same game that everybody else is playing in, you have to be as equal to or greater than those. Those people, man.And yes, and also have context. Like, hey, this is my first movie. They know they're bringing me in for a specific reason because I have a gift in some other area or I have an audience in some other area that can bring to this movie. They wanted me for this. It's not like playing the whole movie. It's like a specific role. So they should also give context of, like, your experience level. If I'm 15 and I get dropped in the NFL, I can't expect to live up to the standards of 28 year old men who are pros just because I played football for a few years. True, but had the opportunity to, like, catch a pass or something. So context also, I feel like. But I hear you, though, man. I'm. All I did is my first scene in a movie, my fiance's movie, and I was nervous, man. I was sure nervous because I've never done acting before. I don't know an act, but I freaking trained for those four lines for like two weeks. Like, yeah. Cuz I didn't want to. I didn't want to slow down the set. I didn't want to waste any time.I was like, I'm gonna nail it, do the best I can. And it was nerve wracking for sure.Yeah. But in that case, you don't do. You're stepping so far out of the box of what you normally do. The expectations cannot be that high with you. Right?They are high for me because.For you, yes. What I'm saying is this guy, don't act the other people, maybe your fiance or what have you. I'm in the entertainment business, and I'm going from one thing, you're not acting. Yeah, but it's similar. Stand up. I'm acting up there. In a way, it's similar. It's not like I'm taking a huge leap outside. It's not like I'm a comedian and now I'm gonna be a chef. You know, it's.Yeah. It's two different arts, though. It's like saying I'm gonna shoot a photograph and paint a photograph. Those are two different art. You're in the arts, but it's two different arts.Yeah. But I think they're close enough together.I hear you, man. I hear you. This is a great conversation. I'm loving this conversation about this. So what I also heard you talk about earlier in this conversation, you said you are a sensitive, emotional person. You'll cry. You cried at a movie this weekend that you watched, but you struggled crying on set with De Niro. Is that right? In a scene with De Niro.Oh, God. Yeah. That was tough.How. Why was it hard for you to cry on a scene with De Niro versus. You can watch a movie and cry in a moment.What was the struggle there with the De Niro thing? It was the expectation that you gotta cry.Pressure, pressure.But go. Go see a movie. There's no, like, you just the emotion hits you. This was okay. This is an emotional scene. You gotta cry. Plus, during that scene, I. During that whole movie, I had sciatic pain. I had sciatic pain for two years trying to perform stand up acting. I don't know if you've ever had it, but it's just not a good feeling.It's like nerve pain on the side.Yeah. Shooting. I had to come into that scene out of breathe. And the director said, why don't you run around the tarmac and then come into the scene? And then you'll have, you know. So I'm running with sciatic in, like, slippers.That should have made you cry alone.I should have did it on my. I should have really had a lot of pain and agony. Yeah. So I go into the scene, we do the scene. De Niro's crying. I mean, I almost became. I did become just a fan. I was just watching him, like, in the scene. I'm in the scene, but in my head, I'm going, crying.That's amazing, man.And I'm like, I got the next line cut. Do it again. No cry. Second scene, no cry.You did your line also no crying.It was a scene. There's lines back and forth, back and forth. I'm not crying. So I tell Daenerys, listen, I need help. I don't know what to do. There he goes. So we go into an airplane that was on the tarmac. And I said, I can't get there. I've never cried on film before. Can you give me some advice? He goes, well, I was going to tell you. I'm going to process. There's no process. I'm just coming into this hoping to God. I cry. And he starts to tell me, you know, what I do, what his process is. He starts talking about his kids, he starts crying as he's talking to me. Real life cry about the family.Not fake cry, real cry.I stop crying watching him cry. I go, I gotta use this. So as I ran out of the airplane, I started running snap, right? I mean, I was talking about this on Joe Rogan. I snapped two of my biceps.I ruptured my biceps at the same time.Not at the same time, different times. But there is no trauma. I had no trauma in it. Oh, what is that? It was like I woke up and sore. This is what I have.Interesting.And I got kids.Yeah.And I don't want to be. I become. Or I'm becoming, which I don't want to. We go to an event and it's. We went to Disneyland. My family gets on, say hi to daddy. I'm the. Say hi to daddy. Like I'm on the sidelines.Yeah. Yeah.They went skiing. I can't ski. Say hi to daddy. And I'm thinking I'm missing memories, moments with my kids, because what? I'm not taking care of my body, and I'm not at optimal health. So my 80 year old self would definitely tell my 50 year old self, when you're my age, 80, you don't want to be stagnant and sitting in a chair.You don't want that. I don't want that. Final question, Sebastian, what's your definition of greatness?Definition of greatness? I don't think you can define yourself as great. I think greatness has to be from other people. Like Muhammad Ali said he was the greatest, right? But that was just his kind of Persona. To me, Michael Jordan is the best basketball player I've ever seen play. There's debate on that. But I think you're great when other people are applauding your greatness, not necessarily yourself. I mean, not to say that there's people out there saying, I'm great, but greatness to me is I've had. And you see something or you taste something and go, I've never seen or felt anything like that. So there's. And I think we're throwing greatness around too much. You know, there's just, like, everybody, oh, he's a genius or he's the goat. I did a thing a year ago about the goat. Everybody's the goat now. I mean, goats are there. You know what I'm saying? So I think if we reserve greatness for true greatness, it has much more meaning than if you start throwing this word around for every everything that you see.I hope today's episode inspired you on your journey towards greatness. Make sure to check out the show notes in the description for a rundown of today's show with all the important links. And if you want weekly exclusive bonus episodes with me, as well as ad free listening experience, make sure to subscribe to our greatness plus channel on Apple Podcast. If you enjoyed this, please share it with a friend over on social media or text a friend. Leave us a review over on Apple Podcast and let me know what you learned over on our social media channels at Lewishows. I really love hearing the feedback from you and it helps us continue to make the show better. And if you want more inspiration from our world class guests and content to learn how to improve the quality of your life, then make sure to sign up for the greatness newsletter and get it delivered right to your inbox. Over@greatness.com. newsletter and if no one has told you today, I want to remind you that you are loved, you are worthy, and you matter. And now it's time to go out there and do something great.

as material. Going back to what you said, you know, Scorsese De Niro are huddling after you do this scene and you're not in the huddle, and you're thinking to myself, I'm fired. I was horrible. I can't believe I screwed this opportunity up. What happens next?

We gotta do better.

They came to you?

No, me. I'm ahead.

But what happened, though, after that?

Nothing. Do it again. All right. I don't know what the hell they said, but we're doing it again. And then as time went on over the course of the day, doing the same scene over and over and over again, Scorsese would come out and give me a note. Joe Pesci came out and he started directing me a little bit, which I was like, is this.

Am I supposed to be directed by an actor? Yeah. Yeah.

But I guess Scorsese, I found out later on through Joe Pesci had said, you know, I guess Scorsese always thought Pesci should be a director because he always got good instincts. So that was something I think worked out with them where there's a scene where I'm telling De Niro's character off and I throw up my hand. And what Pesci had told me prior to that, he goes, this guy's gonna kill you in the next scene. You need to leave this scene. So he is so pissed off at you, he's gonna kill you. You can't leave here kind of nonchalant. You gotta leave here with some intention.

Piss him off.

Yeah, piss him off. And again, it's like, wow, that's a great note. But again, I go, why did I think of that? Even though this show I'm doing right now with bookie Chuck Lorre will come out and go, you know what? Do it this way because your character is feeling this right now. I'm like, why did I think of that? So he didn't have to come out and tell me that.

But again, that's your thought process.

That's my thought process.

You think Kobe told his coaches, don't coach me after where they do a timeout when they're losing and he's like, don't tell me what to do. Think Michael Jordan. You know, when you're watching him back in Arlington Heights and you went to watch him in the arena, you think his coach has not given him some positive re encouragement and said, hey, here's what I'm noticing that you didn't see because it's a blind spot. You think Jordan's saying, screw you, coach, I'm gonna do it my way? No, I got it all figured out.

No. Yeah. I mean, it's like, but here's where the insecurity comes in for me. It's like I put so much pressure on myself to be the best, and then when you fall short of it and somebody's gotta tell you, that's not the best, try it this way. I take it as like, that should have came up, but I've been, I'm becoming more, I'm adjusting my thought process when it comes to that because I've talked to other actors and they're saying when he's watching it on the screen, to your point, you're not seeing what he's seeing. You're here, he's there. So he's got a bird's eye view of what's happening, where you're kind of.

And if you're thinking about what's on the screen, you're not on the flow.

Not at all.

When you got two kids, right?

Two kids.

They're five and seven.

Five and seven, yeah.

So when they were like one, one and a half and they were trying to walk and they kept falling over, did you, like, scream at them and say, hey, you should, you should have this already figured out, this walking thing.

No, I didn't.

You know, I mean, it's kind of like you've never trained to be an actor. How are you supposed to be this, like, world class actor your first few scenes?

Yeah, I get it. But again, I would just think that I would be able to have enough instinct to become that. It's, again, that much is De Niro.

And Scorsese in your first scenes ever. It's like, come on, you just never want to put so much pressure on yourself.

You never want to be the weak. Even though you're a rookie on the football team. Right. And you're going to go out for a pass and you never played in the NFL before.

True.

You miss an open path. Boom, down. Yeah.

You don't want to drop the ball.

Your teammates like this. The pros, bro. Those mistakes you can't make, you know what I'm saying?

True.

Regardless if you're a rookie or a five year veteran, I think if you're playing in the same game that everybody else is playing in, you have to be as equal to or greater than those. Those people, man.

And yes, and also have context. Like, hey, this is my first movie. They know they're bringing me in for a specific reason because I have a gift in some other area or I have an audience in some other area that can bring to this movie. They wanted me for this. It's not like playing the whole movie. It's like a specific role. So they should also give context of, like, your experience level. If I'm 15 and I get dropped in the NFL, I can't expect to live up to the standards of 28 year old men who are pros just because I played football for a few years. True, but had the opportunity to, like, catch a pass or something. So context also, I feel like. But I hear you, though, man. I'm. All I did is my first scene in a movie, my fiance's movie, and I was nervous, man. I was sure nervous because I've never done acting before. I don't know an act, but I freaking trained for those four lines for like two weeks. Like, yeah. Cuz I didn't want to. I didn't want to slow down the set. I didn't want to waste any time.

I was like, I'm gonna nail it, do the best I can. And it was nerve wracking for sure.

Yeah. But in that case, you don't do. You're stepping so far out of the box of what you normally do. The expectations cannot be that high with you. Right?

They are high for me because.

For you, yes. What I'm saying is this guy, don't act the other people, maybe your fiance or what have you. I'm in the entertainment business, and I'm going from one thing, you're not acting. Yeah, but it's similar. Stand up. I'm acting up there. In a way, it's similar. It's not like I'm taking a huge leap outside. It's not like I'm a comedian and now I'm gonna be a chef. You know, it's.

Yeah. It's two different arts, though. It's like saying I'm gonna shoot a photograph and paint a photograph. Those are two different art. You're in the arts, but it's two different arts.

Yeah. But I think they're close enough together.

I hear you, man. I hear you. This is a great conversation. I'm loving this conversation about this. So what I also heard you talk about earlier in this conversation, you said you are a sensitive, emotional person. You'll cry. You cried at a movie this weekend that you watched, but you struggled crying on set with De Niro. Is that right? In a scene with De Niro.

Oh, God. Yeah. That was tough.

How. Why was it hard for you to cry on a scene with De Niro versus. You can watch a movie and cry in a moment.

What was the struggle there with the De Niro thing? It was the expectation that you gotta cry.

Pressure, pressure.

But go. Go see a movie. There's no, like, you just the emotion hits you. This was okay. This is an emotional scene. You gotta cry. Plus, during that scene, I. During that whole movie, I had sciatic pain. I had sciatic pain for two years trying to perform stand up acting. I don't know if you've ever had it, but it's just not a good feeling.

It's like nerve pain on the side.

Yeah. Shooting. I had to come into that scene out of breathe. And the director said, why don't you run around the tarmac and then come into the scene? And then you'll have, you know. So I'm running with sciatic in, like, slippers.

That should have made you cry alone.

I should have did it on my. I should have really had a lot of pain and agony. Yeah. So I go into the scene, we do the scene. De Niro's crying. I mean, I almost became. I did become just a fan. I was just watching him, like, in the scene. I'm in the scene, but in my head, I'm going, crying.

That's amazing, man.

And I'm like, I got the next line cut. Do it again. No cry. Second scene, no cry.

You did your line also no crying.

It was a scene. There's lines back and forth, back and forth. I'm not crying. So I tell Daenerys, listen, I need help. I don't know what to do. There he goes. So we go into an airplane that was on the tarmac. And I said, I can't get there. I've never cried on film before. Can you give me some advice? He goes, well, I was going to tell you. I'm going to process. There's no process. I'm just coming into this hoping to God. I cry. And he starts to tell me, you know, what I do, what his process is. He starts talking about his kids, he starts crying as he's talking to me. Real life cry about the family.

Not fake cry, real cry.

I stop crying watching him cry. I go, I gotta use this. So as I ran out of the airplane, I started running snap, right? I mean, I was talking about this on Joe Rogan. I snapped two of my biceps.I ruptured my biceps at the same time.Not at the same time, different times. But there is no trauma. I had no trauma in it. Oh, what is that? It was like I woke up and sore. This is what I have.Interesting.And I got kids.Yeah.And I don't want to be. I become. Or I'm becoming, which I don't want to. We go to an event and it's. We went to Disneyland. My family gets on, say hi to daddy. I'm the. Say hi to daddy. Like I'm on the sidelines.Yeah. Yeah.They went skiing. I can't ski. Say hi to daddy. And I'm thinking I'm missing memories, moments with my kids, because what? I'm not taking care of my body, and I'm not at optimal health. So my 80 year old self would definitely tell my 50 year old self, when you're my age, 80, you don't want to be stagnant and sitting in a chair.You don't want that. I don't want that. Final question, Sebastian, what's your definition of greatness?Definition of greatness? I don't think you can define yourself as great. I think greatness has to be from other people. Like Muhammad Ali said he was the greatest, right? But that was just his kind of Persona. To me, Michael Jordan is the best basketball player I've ever seen play. There's debate on that. But I think you're great when other people are applauding your greatness, not necessarily yourself. I mean, not to say that there's people out there saying, I'm great, but greatness to me is I've had. And you see something or you taste something and go, I've never seen or felt anything like that. So there's. And I think we're throwing greatness around too much. You know, there's just, like, everybody, oh, he's a genius or he's the goat. I did a thing a year ago about the goat. Everybody's the goat now. I mean, goats are there. You know what I'm saying? So I think if we reserve greatness for true greatness, it has much more meaning than if you start throwing this word around for every everything that you see.I hope today's episode inspired you on your journey towards greatness. Make sure to check out the show notes in the description for a rundown of today's show with all the important links. And if you want weekly exclusive bonus episodes with me, as well as ad free listening experience, make sure to subscribe to our greatness plus channel on Apple Podcast. If you enjoyed this, please share it with a friend over on social media or text a friend. Leave us a review over on Apple Podcast and let me know what you learned over on our social media channels at Lewishows. I really love hearing the feedback from you and it helps us continue to make the show better. And if you want more inspiration from our world class guests and content to learn how to improve the quality of your life, then make sure to sign up for the greatness newsletter and get it delivered right to your inbox. Over@greatness.com. newsletter and if no one has told you today, I want to remind you that you are loved, you are worthy, and you matter. And now it's time to go out there and do something great.

snap, right? I mean, I was talking about this on Joe Rogan. I snapped two of my biceps.

I ruptured my biceps at the same time.

Not at the same time, different times. But there is no trauma. I had no trauma in it. Oh, what is that? It was like I woke up and sore. This is what I have.

Interesting.

And I got kids.

Yeah.

And I don't want to be. I become. Or I'm becoming, which I don't want to. We go to an event and it's. We went to Disneyland. My family gets on, say hi to daddy. I'm the. Say hi to daddy. Like I'm on the sidelines.

Yeah. Yeah.

They went skiing. I can't ski. Say hi to daddy. And I'm thinking I'm missing memories, moments with my kids, because what? I'm not taking care of my body, and I'm not at optimal health. So my 80 year old self would definitely tell my 50 year old self, when you're my age, 80, you don't want to be stagnant and sitting in a chair.

You don't want that. I don't want that. Final question, Sebastian, what's your definition of greatness?

Definition of greatness? I don't think you can define yourself as great. I think greatness has to be from other people. Like Muhammad Ali said he was the greatest, right? But that was just his kind of Persona. To me, Michael Jordan is the best basketball player I've ever seen play. There's debate on that. But I think you're great when other people are applauding your greatness, not necessarily yourself. I mean, not to say that there's people out there saying, I'm great, but greatness to me is I've had. And you see something or you taste something and go, I've never seen or felt anything like that. So there's. And I think we're throwing greatness around too much. You know, there's just, like, everybody, oh, he's a genius or he's the goat. I did a thing a year ago about the goat. Everybody's the goat now. I mean, goats are there. You know what I'm saying? So I think if we reserve greatness for true greatness, it has much more meaning than if you start throwing this word around for every everything that you see.

I hope today's episode inspired you on your journey towards greatness. Make sure to check out the show notes in the description for a rundown of today's show with all the important links. And if you want weekly exclusive bonus episodes with me, as well as ad free listening experience, make sure to subscribe to our greatness plus channel on Apple Podcast. If you enjoyed this, please share it with a friend over on social media or text a friend. Leave us a review over on Apple Podcast and let me know what you learned over on our social media channels at Lewishows. I really love hearing the feedback from you and it helps us continue to make the show better. And if you want more inspiration from our world class guests and content to learn how to improve the quality of your life, then make sure to sign up for the greatness newsletter and get it delivered right to your inbox. Over@greatness.com. newsletter and if no one has told you today, I want to remind you that you are loved, you are worthy, and you matter. And now it's time to go out there and do something great.