Good morning, millennials. Welcome back to the toast and happy Wednesday. It is hump day. An amazing day always, but an especially great day here, because I am joined by somebody who I literally bullied into coming on the show. And that's why it's fine to bully other people, because I have Brooke Scofield, and I wouldn't have gotten you if I didn't basically force you to. So thank you for being here.

Not true at all. I was already. I came in ready to fight you on this, because I. Well, here's the thing. Knowing me right now is just not a good thing, because.

Don't say that.

No. I am ignoring every person in my life. So heavy. I'm not even looking at my phone. I can't because it's like. I just feel like if I look at it, then I have to respond, address it. So I just was ignoring everything. And that, unfortunately, at some point, included you. But let me tell you, bullied all my friends from home, literally put me.

In a group chat.

And they were like, are you fucking stupid?

Well, I was coming from a place of insecurity because I literally reached out to Jake Shane, who we both know, and I was like, listen, please help me get Brooke on the toast. I'm coming to LA to do a week of toast shows. And he was like, sure, no problem. So easy. Put us in a group chat. I was like, fuck, yes. Literally, a year ago, I came to LA and I did a week of episodes, and I texted my friend Josh Peck, and I said, can you please put me in a group chat with Tana Mongeau? I really want her on the podcast. Put me in a group chat. And you two literally did the same thing. Tana was like, oh, fuck, yes. Let's do it. And I was like, hey, Tana turdy here. Like, let me know what day works. And she'd never answer. And I was like, you know what? I'm not letting Brooke go. So I used my platform and I said, where are Brooke's home friends? And Brooke's home friends got to you. And I just want to say, shout out to the home friends.

They did shout out Sarah and ally. They got. They got me on here, and I was always gonna, come on. I just didn't. I didn't understand the sense of urgency. And now that I know that you do an episode a day, I realize that you are just really on top of your stuff, which I'm not.

I'm incredibly annoying, and I own that. But at the end of the day, I'm sitting down with Brooke Scofield. The listeners know you're coming on. They're so excited. You are just a marvel. Like, if I didn't like you so much, I would be jealous because you're living the dream, you know, like, viral TikTok, everything. And I need to start at the beginning because. And I did a good amount of research on you, but I really wanted to hear from you. Like, it really feels for me as a huge Internet consumer. Like, you just blew up, like, a couple of months ago. What is the journey? What is the timeline?

I feel almost the opposite of that. I feel like it's been a very, like, slow burn, but I think maybe just. Just right now, like, everybody else is starting to notice. See it. But the podcast I've had since I think we started, started it in 2022.

Okay.

And that's where I started social media. I never really did social media before then, and so everything has come from that, literally.

You host. It's a podcast. It's called cancel with Tana Mongeau, which is why I brought her up. How did you two meet?

We met at a party.

Okay.

And I knew who she was, obviously.

She's a huge, legendary.

Yeah, she's legendary. And I would, like. I saw her in everyone's videos. I followed her already on Instagram, so I knew her, but we just, like, hung out at that party, and after that, we were good friends for life.

And your podcast is really. I feel it's so interesting. It reminds me, like, your dynamic. A lot of me and Jackie, who I usually host the show with, she is so different than me. And you and Tana feel so different, and I think that's why it's, like, a magical connection. How? From the second the podcast started, people just loved it, and you guys just went on this tour, and it was so major. But you guys really, like, on a personal male level, are not so similar. Correct. Average.

I don't know if I agree with that. I feel like, in a lot of ways, people think we're different. We aren't. Like, people think I have it a lot more, like, together than her sometimes. And I'm like, I just don't think that's true. That's a contrast. You know what I mean?

Yeah. Yeah.

And she's a little more abrasive, like, publicly. I like to do it like BTs.

And what were you doing work wise, before?

I worked at a restaurant. I actually worked right next door at Cat.

No way. Okay, so you're working in a restaurant, and then how long before you quit that job. Since when the podcast started.

Like, I got fired before I ever started with the podcast. I got fired, like, randomly during COVID That's rude. And it wasn't random at all. It was, like, completely my fault and I deserved it, but fired nonetheless. And I was at Tana's when I got fired, so she was like, oh, shit, like, what are we gonna do? And then it was like, almost a whole year after that that we started the podcast.

Oh, really? And what did you do for that year?

Just scavenging for everything.

Anything and everything. I love that. Well, the podcast is so good, and you went on a huge tour and one of the most iconic things. And I know we were just talking about this prior, so if you. I happen to think a lot of the girls who listen to our show aren't familiar with some of the major moments in your career and your personal life in the last couple of years. And one of them is you dating Matt rife.

Yeah, we really. It's funny story. We actually, like, we weren't dating really. It was like, well, I thought we were dating, but apparently he didn't think we were dating.

Correct, correct. And you did this sort of, like, iconic slay at one of your live shows where you brought out a bunch of girls.

Yeah.

Who he was talking to at the same time. What was context. Yeah.

So all of us thought we were, like, exclusively seeing him at the same time, but we were all. And we were all overlapping each other, so.

Serial killer energy.

Yeah. And we obviously found out about it. Like, I found out about it long after, like, when he was long gone and I hadn't talked to him in forever, but once I figured it out, I was like, this is hilarious.

No. So fun.

We all started talking to each other. We got, like, super close, and then we were like, we should all go to Nashville or something. No, no, no. How funny would it be if I.

Brought you to DC and did the girls lose their minds?

Oh, they were so excited. That's the thing. I, like, really did it for, like, the canceled listeners.

No, for sure.

We just knew that that would, like, they would eat that up, especially in DC, cuz he was like, that's where.

And your relationship with him preceded his, like, kind of blowing. Blowing up. Like when. When he had his Netflix special. You had dated before that, correct?

Yeah, he got his Netflix special, like, long after I got it.

And seeing, you know, what goes up must come down. Like, ability is a prison. He had this sort of viral moment, this, you know, amazing, whatever success. And then you know, the people really turned on him. He had this big scandal with, you know, the TikTok. How did that make you feel? Because I am a person who, like, holds grudges. I have enemies, and I want the worst for them at all times. Are you. Were you at a place in your life where you had healed and you wanted good things for him, or you loved to see it?

Well, the thing is, it came before I knew. So before, like, when I saw him, like, getting canceled and stuff, I was going on canceled or on my show and being like, oh, my God, no, he's so nice.

You're lying.

No, that's why I got so upset about it. Cause I was like. I was defending him. I was like, that's not his character. That's not who he is. He's so sweet. He's so nice. And then girls started messaging me, like, um, sister, that's not true. Wrong.

Oh, my God. That's so embarrassed.

So that's why I, like, really went hard about it. Cause otherwise, I probably would have never brought it up. But I was like, you will not have me publicly defending you, looking stupid when there are other people who know that they were seeing you at the same time as me. A thousand percent.

So you really just found out that he had been seeing other people at the same time?

Which is totally fine, but don't say you're not.

Is it totally fine? I actually don't think it's fine. No.

I personally am someone who, like, I'm so. You only are with me literally, obviously.

No, I don't think that's even asking. All the bar is so low.

You would think so, but it's hard to find, I swear.

Well, you're not from LA. Where are you from?

I'm from Arizona.

Okay. And when did you move to LA?

2018.

So, for the majority of, like, your young adult dating life, you've been dating in LA. And I imagine that's difficult.

It's hard, but it's not harder than it was in college. You know, it's like, same energy. Like, frat boy. A frat boy is, like, the same thing as, like, in a Los Angeles.

That's a good way of looking at it.

Artist or whatever it is.

I feel like you share so much, and I think for a lot of the things you share on your podcast, you're, like, not wanting to tell, wanting people to find out who you're talking about. Yeah, and you share a lot. But I imagine I just feel like you're one of those girls that, like, there is so much we don't know. Like, I would seriously give my life savings to look through your DM's.

Honestly, my DM's are not exciting. And it's really sad because I want them to be. Honestly, if you're listening and you want to dm me, please do. Cause I read them and I respond.

Do you slide into other people's DM's?

Like, celebrities? I really try. I don't do it so much now because I think, like, if somebody were to, I don't know how I would feel about, like, a guy sliding in my DM's. I'd be like, oh, you must do that often.

So I don't want a guy to.

Think I'm just doing that.

But I feel like it's a thing a lot of people, like, a lot of girls like to do, and I think there's a method to it. I've never done it. I've been married for 100 years. But I think that there's, like, a correct way of doing it. Do you have tips for, like, the girlies if you want to dm a celebrity? Like, what's a way to get their attention? Cause there's a lot of people, like, get in line.

I don't know. I really don't know. I'm not that successful in it, so.

It'S hard to give advice.

But I always just say, like, hi or something. Cause if I go a little crazier than that, then I get embarrassed. Cause I'm like, I don't want them to think I'm totally desperate, but I am.

And by the way, I'm so open to desperation. I think it's so. I feel like, you know, if we were business women at a conference, they would just call us, you know, networkers, you know what?

Oh, Sabrina Carpenter's new song. She says, like, I don't relate to desperation. I do. Really.

I wish I didn't. I desperately do.

I. It's the worst. It's my least favorite quality about myself.

So when you brought those girlies on stage, you had so many viral moments from your tour, which is so. I mean, ideal marketing wise. This is a business. We're selling tickets. The bringing of girls onto the stage. And I actually had spoken about this on the toast because you had, like, some fucking freak, like, storm the stage.

Yeah, we actually had a few.

Yeah, tell me about that.

There was one who really made it on stage. Like, most of them got stopped before they were even, like, really visible to everybody else. But one of them got all the way into my lap before anyone even noticed.

And the video went so viral. One. Cause it's so crazy.

It was just strange. She was deranged, you know? She wasn't drunk. Oh, that's good. No, it's not.

No, of course not.

Oh, yeah.

No.

That's literally frightening. If she had been drunk, it'd be like, oh, like, hilarious. Like, she was so blacked out.

Right?

She was dead sober. She was in a manic episode, which makes it, like, way that's, like, so sad. And, like, I have, obviously, sympathy for her, but also.

But your safety is your safety.

Who was she with, and why didn't they strangle her?

Oh, my God. Well, the moment went so viral, obviously, because it's a crazy thing, but the way you and Tana both reacted on stage was completely different. Like, polar opposite reactions, and I think it really reflected how certain people hit. There are two ways of handling, like, a panic situation. Freezing and fleeing. Tanner ran, and you didn't move.

She ran. But honest to God, here's the difference. The real difference is that I was drunk and she wasn't. So I was literally like, oh, who's this? Like, someone was bringing me a water bottle or something. She's in all black. She, like, was middle aged, so I was like, she's not a fan.

She's harmless.

Like, she had thought she, like, worked for the venue or something, or they were, like, bringing something up to us. I don't know what I thought, but I did not think she was so crazy, but.

And by the way, I. Do you. When you guys go on tour, do you make it a point? Is it helpful to you to drink before you perform or to not drink?

I have to. Well, I don't have to. Of course I don't have to, but it really helps me, and I still get so nervous. Do you if I don't?

Yeah.

And I just, like, personality wise, I just feel like it takes the edge off, and I'm more exciting, and I'm funnier, or maybe I just think I'm funnier, but it really doesn't matter.

Yeah, it doesn't matter. So the matt rife thing was, like, sort of for me, I feel like that's how you came across my radar. And I was like, oh, my God, this girl is so pretty and so cool. Like, need to follow her. And I feel like that's when I followed you because it was such an iconic thing to do. I think a lot of people also. It's just, like, a lesson in how to handle things. That's like, you know, finding out a guy you dated was talking to multiple girls and, like, dating them at the same time, like, that could seriously, like, upset someone. And the fact that you made it into this, like, positive thing, I actually think was, like, an awesome way for, like, people to see that, like, for other girls. Like, don't get, like, down on it. Like, let's make fun of it. It's crazy, and it's funny.

Yeah. And it is lighthearted. I feel like some, like, a lot of people are, like, bushy, beat it into the ground. And I do kind of agree with that, but it's like, you know what? There's so many times it's happened to me separately, and I would never talk about it online, but it was just the fact that I was publicly.

No, you had to do it to defend him.

I was like, no, no, no, no.

But I feel like you're this type of person, and correct me if I'm wrong, where bizarre things happen to you. You don't seek out these crazy things. But. And the stories that we know, which I'm sure that you haven't shared, all of them, the ones that we know are fucking crazy.

Yeah. And, well, the thing is, I'm the common denominator in all those situations, so it's like, I don't, like, what am I doing to seek these people out?

That's very self aware of you, but I also feel like we're victim blaming here. Like, you are the victim. And then when I went on this rabbit hole when I first found you on TikTok, I then fell into the Clinton cane of it all.

Yeah, he's a lizard.

And let me tell you, I was shocked, honey. I was in tears. First of all, that you dated this man just visually not to be mean.

I would know. You can be as mean as you want about that man. He was horrible.

And, you know, that's a classic, timeless beauty.

Well, thank you.

And, you know, he's different looking. And I was shocked. First of all, on a visual, I'm a shallow person.

Well, but here's the thing. If he had been, like, a good guy, I would be so, like, I do not care if somebody's ugly. And I've had plenty of uglies to go around. You know what I mean? Yes. So long as they're good and nice. That's what Jack, never say a word.

Say a lot. Like, people's outsides are reflective of their insides. And so, like, you could be, whatever, traditionally not good looking. But if you're, like, such a sweetheart, precious gem of a man. Like, you're hot to me.

Yeah. And that's what I kind of thought was going on until I found out otherwise.

So you. I don't want to paraphrase, please. For the listeners who might not understand the probably. Is this the craziest thing that's ever happened to you?

I hope. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. I hope so. Yeah.

So, yeah, I was dating this guy. I had started dating him. I was a fan of his. He was a singer.

He was a singer.

Things like love songs, like people's very viral stuff like that. And I started dating him almost immediately. The major love bombing situation. He was, like, immediately super affectionate. Like, buying me things, doing everything, anything good. I mean, trips and just like that.

He was like.

He was definitely a spender. Like, I loved that. Nice dinners and stuff. And he was just like, you know, and I love love bombing. That's one thing about me, is please love bomb me. I just love it. And so, yeah, I got carried away. And honest to God, I wasn't interested in the beginning, but I was like, you know what? I'm gonna give him a chance. The nice guy this one time. Like, I'm gonna go for the guy who actually likes me and wants to date me. So I did. And you know what happened? He faked the death of his entire family, and he pretended to be Australia in our relationship. So that's why you don't choose the nice guy. Always choose the one.

Well, I don't want you dead. But wait, that is so crazy.

Yeah.

So when you met him, it was just, like, a part of his background?

Yeah, we, like, first night we ever met, we went out to this diner, and he cried to me about how his family had all died.

Oh, my.

And I was, like, blown away. I'm like, I cannot believe he's been through all of this, and he's, like, touring a year later. That's amazing. I know. I was like, God, talk about resilience.

Oh, my God, I'm cracking up.

And just. It was such a theme of our relationship. Every single thing came back to that. Like, if I would upset him or if I was doing something he didn't like, he'd be like, you're reminding me of my mother.

Oh, my God. That's really fucking crazy.

He hung up the phone too fast. He'd be like, my mom used to do that. It's so traumatizing for me. It's such a trigger. Like, she's alive. Like, call her.

Oh, that's mentally ill energy.

That's crazy. So bad. Or I'd be like, busy working or whatever it was, and he'd be like, are you kidding me? You know what I've been through. Like, and you're not gonna come meet me right now? Like, have me drop what I was doing. Like, it was so manipulative and it wasn't real. Like, they are just fully kicking.

And I don't know if you get backlash for, like, sharing, but I love that you did. Especially, like, with this specific situation, like, naming names.

Well, it took so long, I didn't wanna talk about it for so long because I still like. Person you loved. Yeah, that. And it's like you have to assume something's very, very wrong with somebody if they're doing. Capable of doing that. And so I was like, from, like, the mental illness side of it, I was like, oh, my God, he needs to get help. And, like, I didn't want his career to be ruined and stuff, but, like, the further I got away from it, I was like, oh, my God. Like, that was a horrible thing he did to me.

That's what I love about your podcast and you specifically is like, you know, every now and then I feel like everyone, the Internet is, like, always talking in code. Like, I'm at a girl. Just fucking say it's. Fucking say it. And with the Clinton Cain thing, like, it was such a seriously, like, psychotic thing to do. And in the words of Taylor Swift, like, you are what you did and people should know. Cause he's gonna have to, you know, date more people. And it's just a quick google is so helpful.

Well, that's crazy. You know, he had dated a girl before me, and I'm the one who ended up telling her. And so. No, listen to how crazy this is. She was like, I guess I'm in love is about her. Like, that's his biggest song. She was with him for, like, nine months or something, but he killed his family off while they were together.

He killed his family.

So, like, he. That story came about when she. They were actively in a relationship, so she flew that he. They were long distance. She flew from New York and stayed with him for months.

Wait, did she go to a funeral while he grieved?

Oh, he. It was during COVID He went to his funerals on Zoom.

Okay, your whole family dies. Like, I don't give a fuck if it's COVID. Like, you're going to the funeral.

Oh, you can find video footage of him everywhere talking about the funeral, what it's like, what he did, how he felt. And what funeral?

Wait, no. This is so crazy that you ended up telling the previous girlfriend that she hadn't even.

No, she had no, not a clue. I told her and she was crushed. Cuz it's like she helped him grieve worse and it would like. Oh, God, it had to have been worse for her because she literally flew for months. And like, he literally actively was like, my mom died yesterday.

Oh, my God. Where does one get that kind of idea? Like, it's so crazy.

Well, I think. I think because he had a song that like, did really well and he said it was about his mom and that made everybody love it. So I think then he was like, oh, I should kill her.

Oh, my God. By the way, the price of fame. You're so right. But like, you get a little bit of attention about you. No, that's really fucking nuts.

Yeah. If you look up anything, it's like australian norwegian singer. No one's from Norway. No one's from Australia.

I'm glad you brought up Australia. How did he talk?

He did. He had like some remnants of an australian accent, but he also, like, he went in and out of it. But he would tell me like, oh, I lived in, you know, Europe and I lived like all these places.

Okay. It's giving to me.

I know, but. Yeah, so I was like, just confused. I'm like, well, he's got something.

Right? Right. Oh, my God, that is so crazy. Are you okay?

I. It took me a second.

Did it?

Oh, it took me. Oh, God.

Now it's like, funny.

Like, I can be lighthearted and like, joke about him being a lizard and stuff, but I was like, not okay.

No, that's really crazy. How long had you guys dated?

Not even long. We dated like seven months or something. But I was just. I felt like my boyfriend died. So I like this imaginary.

You start telling people your boyfriend died?

Yeah.

Very Clinton Kane of you.

My australian boyfriend is dead.

Wait, and so that was the reason you broke up? Did you have a conversation with him? What was his sort of reasoning for killing his family?

Oh, he. Well, he still won't admit it. Oh, he will not say he did that.

Oh, wow.

I mean, he, like, he did in not so many words. He was like, I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna explain to you why. And then obviously never did.

Right.

I never saw him again.

Oh, my God. If you ever ran into him, what would you say? I cursed the day you were in the car.

Oh, I would hit him for sure.

You would?

No doubt.

I support women's rights, and I support women's wrongs. I think you should hit him.

I would hit him and everybody would give me a pass.

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Oh, yeah. I grew up with my grandparents. I grew up, well, I grew up with my parents until I was, like, nine, and then I went with my grandparents from that time on. And, yeah, my life is definitely very different now.

But are your grandparents still with us?

They are. My grandma is, like, has really bad dementia, so she's like, that's hard. She's not, but she is. She's physically here, but, yeah, it's horrible.

Your grandfather?

My grandpa's amazing. I talk to him all the time.

And what does he make of your life?

He loves it. He's so sweet. He, like, he wrote down all of my tour dates in his, like, notebook by hand so that he would know where he was every single night.

Did you do a show in Phoenix?

I haven't done a show in Phoenix, but, I mean, he wouldn't be able to go if I were.

Oh, my God, that is so, so sweet. I love that.

So supportive. And he'll, like, he'll message me and be like, okay, well, I saw the show last night, and, like, he's so nice. Oh, my God, he's perfect.

That's awesome. Has Tana met your grandparents?

She hasn't, but I wish she could.

That you need to vlog it. Your vlogs, like, are. Blogging is really hard.

I love vlogging. It's my favorite, I think, like, social media thing, but I love to talk to.

But I find blogging, like, long form to be very laborious. Yeah. In terms of editing and uploading. Like, it's. I feel like it's the most work in terms of social content, but I.

Feel like it's the easiest way to, like, show your actual personality, if you like. Yeah, I mean, podcasting helps, too. Anything long form to me, is, like, more indicative of, like, who you are.

But I feel like vlogging and your vlog specifically, it's hard to get people to watch, like, building a YouTube channel and building a YouTube presence. I feel like it's, like, one of the hardest platforms to build. And people love your vlogs.

Well, thank you, but I think I'm cheating this. It's like. I think it's just like autoplay after canceled.

No way. No. Don't clown on yourself. I think for a lot of people, you've become, like, a comfort. And I think also, it's like, the age we're currently living in. In YouTube. Long gone are, like, the girlies who we all used to watch. Like, no more. You know, Jeffrey doesn't post anymore. Emma Chamberlain. Like, all the girlies are gone. And I think people are looking for new comfort creators, and you are one of them.

That was kind of, like, my thought process, too. I was like, okay, well, this is, like, the time. Cause everybody who, there's kind of, like a gap. No one wants to do YouTube right now because it's so much easier to do TikTok.

Is it weird for you to have so many people commenting on all facets of your life? I feel like a lot of your content, but also a lot of, like, your comments and stuff are about your dating life, but, like, your looks like people. That's just the nature of the Internet. Is that strange for you?

Yeah, I don't. Yeah, I definitely don't love that.

Yeah.

But sometimes it's like, it depends on what it is, because sometimes I love it and I love the attention and stuff. Of course, if any social media personality in general, like, loves the attention and they're lying if they say they don't.

They live for it.

But when it's negative attention, of course I'm like, okay, well, how do I turn it off?

Are you the type of person who, like, lets that stuff get to you?

Yes.

Yeah. Like, you read comments for sure.

And I'm very aware of what people think about me at all times, which is like, it sucks because that then I start behaving a certain way because I think I'm supposed to.

Okay. I was just doing a podcast yesterday with Jake Shane talking about this, and he was saying he was getting so, like, bogged down. He accidentally, like, read this Reddit thread about it.

Oh, we've been fighting about that.

Him and I do quadrant so hard. And I was like, because when you start changing how you act to appease critics, you've lost the plot completely.

People can tell you're not being yourself, and then that's a whole additional thing for them to comment on and hate on and whatever.

You'll get to a place, like, I've been doing this for so long. You will get to a place where not only do you, like, act differently online to appease your critics, you will start to make different life choices, like, in your personal life, because you are, like, always considering what people will think of you. And that is a place where you let, like, haters or commentary from the Internet affects, like, your actual life because this isn't real. Then you're in a really bad place and you need to cut it off, like, seriously at the balls. Like, immediately. I'm. I'm such a big fan of just, like, fuck it. Like, fuck it, you know?

No, it's just so much harder. Like, I don't know. I'm still so new to it, too. Like, tana's so good at being, like, I was gonna say fuck, like, but I'm so, I don't know, I feel like Jake is in the same boat. Him and I talk about it all the time because we'll be like. He talks to me about Reddit because I've notoriously, like, been a Reddit reader.

Like, about yourself.

Oh, yeah. I, it was, like, self harm. I was doing it for so long. It is, but it's, but that's exactly what it is. And, like, especially somebody who's, like, a little off her rocker, like me, it's like I'm spiraling. So obviously I'm gonna go in and read this, like, enormous group chat.

Yeah.

Fucking 60,000 make it worse who are talking, like, horribly about the abyss.

No, you have to make a conscious effort. And let me tell you, I don't look at it ever.

Well, I had to stop on tour because touring, like, it's already so emotionally hard and, like, demanding and stuff. It's like, I could not handle if I thought that, like, it was being received poorly. So I could not be on Reddit during that time.

Yep.

And now I'm like, oh, my God, my life is so much better once you're clean. Yes. That's what it is.

It gets easier. It's like a vape.

It's like a comment on TikTok where people are like, you know what I get? I get a lot of don't listen to the people on Reddit. And I'm like, oh, fuck, what? Are they going to. Yeah. Or, like. Like, it's. I don't care if Reddit hates you. I'm like, fuck. You know what I mean? Oh, no. Now I know. And now I gotta go check.

I see your podcast clips a lot. I know. Tana vapes. Do you vape? No. Tell me about that decision. I've.

Honest to God, I've tried to get into it, and I can't. Like, I literally wanted to be a vaper, and I like, no, by the.

Way, I'm, like, five months off the vape. It's the best thing I've ever done. Quitting? Really? Do not start. Like, seriously, it'll ruin your fucking life.

No, I don't have, like, an addictive personality when it comes to, like, drugs, alcohol, or, like, any of those vices. It's like, for me, it's like, food and boys.

Doo's in. What is up with those things? Like, I'm serious. What is that? Is that, like, the.

No.

Yes. Are people doing that? Oh, my God.

Are girls doing that?

Everyone is. The. They's the thems, the girls, the boys, like, gay, straight, everyone.

They have to be stopped.

No. It's so bad for you. And I think it's, like, the new. It's very Gen Z. The gen zs are over the vape. They said the vape isn't cool. We're doing Zen.

None of it's cool.

Get in the car. We're getting mouth cancer. Seriously? Is that crazy?

Yeah, see, I'm. No, no, no. I'm not into it.

Me neither. Also, you brought up Jake. You guys doing pilates together? I have a question that I think, seriously, everyone is wondering, what the fuck is the aloe gym? And, like, what is it? And where is it? And do you pay for it? Like, we want. Tell us everything.

So crazy. I wanted to get in there so bad. Like, it's. It's basically aloe headquarters. It's in Beverly Hills. It's like a mall. Like, you walk in there, and it's like this, like, seven story building, and there's, like, people walking around on all the aisles up. Like, it's literally like something you've never seen before. And there's just racks of brand new aloe clothes everywhere. And, like, you see, like, Nina Dobrev walking around. Like, it's just the craziest thing ever. And, like, I see so many people hating on it, and I completely get it because it's like. What do you mean? There's this, like, the exclusive gym. No.

They're hating on it because they can't get in.

Like, yeah, so was I until they let me in. I completely get it.

But is it gym? You pay for.

You don't pay for it. You get invited.

Okay. So, like, you get invited to become a member. You get invited, like, once.

No, it's not like a membership, but basically, like, so I had never been invited, and I was trying to get invited so bad. I was, like, literally, you. Every single person I met from aloe, like, headquarters, I would, like, try to befriend. I could not get in there. Okay. She's on LinkedIn. I'm not kidding. I had to be invited as, like, an outsider in. It was like, a YSL beauty had, like, a event. An event there.

Okay.

And so that was, like, my in. So I just did my big one. When I was in there, I was, like, chit chatting, like, with everybody, and I finally met the right girl. The girl who makes the list.

Oh, my God, where is she?

And she's.

So she's actually.

She's, like, one of my best friends now. Like, I love her.

Very smart. Cozying up to the boss. We love that. Honestly. Yes.

I would love her separately, but, like, it's so beneficial. I just love it so much because she'll text and be like, do you want to come in tomorrow? Like, pilates at two with bra?

Like, and so do you belong to a gym now, or that has become your gym? No.

And you couldn't get me to the gym if I wasn't doing that.

So it's been, like, a good thing for you.

Oh, yeah.

We're cutting costs. We love that.

Yeah. It's amazing.

Okay. I'm so glad we cleared that up. Cause I honestly, I was wondering it, and when I told everyone that you were coming on, I asked them if there's anything they wanted me to ask you. And there were a couple of things. And the first thing is, people wanna know, like, if there's been any sort of update or movement in your relationship with fibula. And I guess, is that a thing about you, that you have a big crush on fibula? Cause you know who's extremely close with fibula?

Who?

This girl you are. So I could put in a good word.

Here's the thing. If there was any good words that could be put in, it's just not.

Possible because I've gone insane to me. No offense. And fibula is very hot and cute. Yeah, I get it. It's insane to me that there's anyone on the planet that you would want to date that wouldn't want to date you back. No.

You would not believe how many of those people there are.

That's so crazy. You are so pretty and so sweet, so nice.

But I think I'm crazy. But he doesn't even know that yet, so I don't really know what's going on.

Does Bibs know you have a crush on him?

Of course he does. Are you kidding me? I talk about it so openly on every single podcast. Publicly stayed. One time I was sitting next to him at a dinner, and I posted on my instagram story, like, the love of my life is sitting next to me. Okay. And he saw it. No.

I'm podcasting with Brooke Schofield right now, comma, do you know her question mark? I feel like you guys would be a good couple. Can I please.

You can. He already knows.

Done. No, he, by the way, that I feel like, is a really good crush for you. He's so sweet. He's, like, a good guy.

So cute. I love him.

Who's your celebrity crush besides fibula?

Matthew McConaughey. He's a little old for me.

Okay, that's, like, kind of a weird celebrity crush, but I have a weird one too. What? Yeah. I don't. That's not.

That's the most common celebrity crush.

Okay, are you saying current Matthew McConaughey.

Or, like, failure to launch even Matthew McConaughey 30 years from now?

Okay. I mean, my subbeat crush is weird too, so I really shouldn't be judging you. It's not Joe mangin. I just think it's, like, weird. I wouldn't have expected you to think.

Is he the guy from the true blood? Oh, no, I'm not thinking. I'm thinking Jon Tagato.

Who the hell is Santiago? Who is that?

What am I talking about?

I'm talking about the guy who was married to Sophia Vergara. Oh, so hot. Magic Mike. Magic Mike.

Yeah.

Weird one either.

Who's telling you that's weird?

Everyone like, it just kind of randomly wrong. Have you ever seen true blood? No. That's what, like, I think launched his career. And he's so handsome in it.

I love, like, a. Like, getting attached to a character like Damon Salvatore and vampire diaries. I would do anything for that man.

Now, speaking of character, I mean, you brought it up, so I wasn't going to bring it up. But speaking of characters that we're all obsessed with, there is, like, a pretty substantial rumor online that you're dating, like, the love of all of our lives. And I just want to start.

I think you started it. No, I fucking didn't. Are you kidding me?

It was all over TikTok. Did I start. Oh, man. I'm really sorry.

No.

You know, I saw it, and I was just like. The thing is, that's how I knew, like, you were a woman of taste, because it's really hard to see people living your dream. But if it's not gonna be me, I'm glad that it was you. That should be me. And seriously, Maddie McKibben? I know he has a real name. It's Beau. Yes. And there was a TikTok floating around that, you know, he was, like, on tour with you, and I think a lot of you thought he was, like, your emotional support boyfriend.

He was my emotional support friend.

Friend. Okay, so you're not dating.

We're not dating.

Fuck. Okay, well, that's good for us girlies. Let's go, girls. He's a veil. No, the thing is, is, like, that's such a deep cut for so many of us. Like, that.

No, that he was my. Oh, my God. There's, like, tweets of me in, like, oh, really? 2012? Being like, Maddie McKibben, I will die for you.

I know. I seriously, like, there was a time in my life where I would have, like, laid out on the street for Maddie McKibben. Like, and let a car run me on.

Me, too. I would have done anything.

So I love that for you.

That's why I was just letting everybody speculate, because one thing about me is, I'm not gonna shoot down a dating rumor if you're shipping me with somebody sexy.

Also, somebody famous. Like, this is a business.

Well, right now, I think people. There's, like, people talking about me dating Glenn Powell have never even met him.

And I'm like, it's because of the aloe gym. I'm not kidding.

I'm like, I absolutely am interesting. Me and Glenn.

I kind of love that. I do ship you and Glenn, as well. I should be with anyone because you're just, like, so lovely. And I feel like there's a lot of people who come into the space, and either, you know, it's a slow burden, their success, or it's overnight success, but they just become assholes. I'm sure you have a ton of experience with that, too.

For sure. Probably have my moments.

No, but I think, for the most part, like, that really comes through. And I think that's why so many people love the podcast and love your content. It's because you really seem like a joy. Like a delight. Well, thank you, girly from Phoenix. We love.

I can be really horrible.

I think we all can. But as long as it's, you know, not documented, nobody has any.

That's what I try to do. I try to keep that again behind the scenes.

How long do you dating someone before you, like, really let them see, like, the real you? Obviously, like, we're all playing a part for a couple of months.

Um. Oh, I don't know. Depends, cuz I love again. I love a love bombing relationship, so I love to, like, literally be dating before you know anything about me.

That's so crazy.

But it never really works. That's why it never works out. And then maybe they find out I'm crazy.

What's the craziest way you've been, like, love bombed?

Well, definitely the Clinton situation, the trips.

The things of that nature.

Yeah. And just like he said, I love you, like, three days after we met.

Oh, that's really fucking crazy.

Yeah, but I was like, he's a. He's a singer.

No. And of course he loves me also.

Why would you not love me after three days?

No. And it's like, finally somebody gets it. Like, I'm amazing. I love.

I was literally like. And also, it was like, I thought he was like, you know, kind of punching up.

So it's like maybe he was, like, trying.

Of course he loves me.

No, that's honestly so sweet. Should you take him back? No kidding. Could you?

Ma, where is he now?

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We do usually one or two.

And the title of the podcast is called canceled. As somebody who has, like, actually been canceled, have you. No.

Um, I've been. I've, like, uh, dipped my toes in the water.

And do you feel like I've got attracts that energy or deters that I feel like putting it out there is like, no, we can't get canceled. Our podcast is called canceled.

Well, it kind of helps that, you know, Tana thought of that, like, when she was.

It's very smart title.

It's so that people. When people search, like, Tana Mongeau canceled. That's what comes up.

Oh, my God. Queen of sco.

She's a genius.

That is really smart.

But, yeah, I think. I mean, people probably give us a little more grace than a lot of other people because people just expect us to be controversial, but, yeah, I don't know. I'm trying. Not anything I could be, like, canceled for is kind of like maybe when I was, like, a teenager or whatever, which is understandable.

Agreed.

That was an idiot.

And you do guest episodes, but you also just do episodes, the two of you, which do you prefer?

I love just the two of us, really? No one likes the guest episodes, really, unless it's, like, somebody that people really love.

That's so funny. That's kind of a thing that I think a lot of podcasters deal with is, like, they say, the best way, and it's true, the best way to grow your podcast is to have guests on and go on other people's podcasts. That's the way to grow. But your audience, like, your core audience. Excuse me. They hate it.

Yeah. Because it's like you don't want to hear an interview of somebody you don't care about or you don't know how.

To balance like that, you know, growth with like wanting to give your audience what they want because they're the ones listening and they're the ones, you know, paying the bills.

Yeah. So we feel guilty because it's like, well, also we run out of things to talk about, the two of us. And I. You must not relate to that because I can't even imagine doing as many episodes as you do.

But like, the difference is my co host every. Normally, not this week, but normally is my sister. And I just feel like it's a different level because we're, we've had the, like, literally had the same life experience. Like, we can. We've never run out of anything.

Yeah, that's true. You don't, like. I don't. We only have a few years to pull from.

Exactly, exactly. But I feel like what you guys do in a few years, people do in a lifetime.

Yeah, well, we do a lot. I also like, it's kind of tricky too, because I am trying not to share too much about my personal life and stuff and like, that's what the podcast is. So if we did more than one episode a week, I would be toast.

Yeah. How do you toast? I know. How do you balance that, like, with. Obviously, when the more you share, the more people love, like that whole Mindy thing like everybody died for, but that obviously takes a toll, you know?

Yeah.

How do you balance.

I don't know. I try to kind of keep everything separate because.

Cuz you gotta live.

Yeah. And it just messes up, like everything, relationships, friendships and stuff. Try to have like a whole separate life, kind of.

I saw, I heard you on a podcast where you were talking about like telling stories about your life and that you'll give like clues, like, you'll say like he or she or blonde or brunette, but you're like leading people astray.

I'm fully lying.

I think that's brilliant. It's.

I have to because it's like I want to still tell honest stories and stuff, but I don't. It's so no matter how many times you tell people to stop, they'll go and find them and they'll message them or they'll. And it's like TikToks about it and speculate in whatever it is. So I'm like, God, I wanted share, but I can't.

No, that's actually really funny that you do that. And I think it's really smart.

I have to. So I'll like, say like one thing about them that's just like absolutely not true.

Yeah. Like a. Like a redhead.

Yeah.

That's so funny. Do you guys do advice on your podcast?

Kind of. We probably shouldn't. No one should take advice from the canceled podcast. That's for sure. One time I told people to use a magic eraser to get their self tanner off, and I gave people chemical burns.

Wait, I kind of feel like that would be a good idea. No.

I thought so.

Had you done it?

Uh huh. But I guess I don't have sensitive skin.

I don't either. That's so interesting.

Okay. At your own risk.

Well, in that vein, every Wednesday we do doo doo.

I was already getting ready to laugh about it.

A segment called dear toasters, where people write in, and I've chosen three, and they're all a little relationship based. Cause I feel like you have a lot of experience in relationships, and if you guys want to write in, of course, it's deertoastersmail.com or head to thetoastpodcast.com to submit. It is completely anonymous. And if it's okay with you, I think the girlies would love to get some advice from you. Okay.

I would love to. I can't promise it's gonna be good advice.

But we're also, you know, we're different, and I think maybe it's good to have two, you know, different spectrums of advice.

I agree.

Hello. I am a huge toaster. I have a unique dilemma, and for context of the story, please know that I am severely allergic to peanuts. If someone eats peanuts and then, like, 12 hours later, kisses me, I will go into anaphylactic shock. So she's. It's very serious.

Oh, no.

I recently was looking at my husband's credit card statement, something which I don't normally do, and I found something horrifying. A hotel reservation in our city when he was supposed to be gone for work. When I confronted him about it, he was embarrassed, but said every once in a couple of months, he goes to a hotel, eats tubs of peanut butter, Reese's peanut butter, and jellies, et cetera. And he showed me a video of the peanut hall. I flew off the handles, and he said I was overreacting. Do I have the right to be furious, or am I the one overreacting?

Wait. She's just mad that he ate peanuts.

Honestly, when she.

When he's not with her, like, I.

Think he kind of sounds amazing.

Like, he's going so really out of his way. Really nice of him to wait until you're. Wait. So is he out of town.

Like, or, I mean, she says it's in his town and he's spending the.

Night having a peanut vacation.

A peanut staycation. Oh, but he took pictures. Like, I believe that that's what he's using the hotel for. Do you think it's more nefarious?

Alibi. He's like, wait, let me do a quick little peanut mukbang.

I mean, men really aren't that smart to, like, come up with a diversion video, but what then why would you.

Not just say, like, I'm craving peanuts. Can I please go to the w for the night?

It's. You know what? You're a hundred percent right. It's never the crime. It's the COVID up. Like, the lying about it now makes me think, well, you.

Yeah, that's the thing. If you're really just eating peanuts, why can't you tell me about it? Because it's like if I. If I know that I'm allergic to peanuts and I know my boyfriend loves peanut butter, like, yeah, sure. Spend the night.

Yeah. I think you're. You are overreacting. If he's telling the truth and you can. You can gage, like, what does your gut say if you think he's lying and there's more to it than. No, of course not. You're obviously not. Maybe she's mad that he's coming home. Maybe not within 12 hours. Maybe she feels he's being reckless, perhaps with the allergy.

Oh, that could be.

That could be it, too. Which I do understand. And people with allergies, like, do you have allergies? Like, serious? Me neither. I'm not allergic to anything, so I can't relate. But people with allergies are really, really serious. And I imagine it's very frustrating when someone, especially your life partner, it's not being as serious when it comes to sort of protecting your allergies as I would want them to.

Yeah, if you can die from it.

I know. Is that so crazy? I can die?

Like, oh, my God. I can't imagine something worse than that. Especially because peanuts are everywhere.

I know. Well, not anymore. Not anymore. Thanks. Allergies. When I was in, like, when I was a young kid, and I've actually recently discovered, you see, that little girl on TikTok who tries new food every day? She's like, I am living with Arfid, and I am trying pepperoni pizza today.

I haven't seen her.

Okay, well, so I saw her videos, and I realized that I have. I have had arfid my whole life. It's an. I don't know. Like, I haven't been diagnosed, but it's an acute restrictive food intake disorder. When I tell you, like, you would die if you knew what I ate. Like, I'm so, so particular, so picky. Like that of a five year old. Actually. Like, a five year old has a more.

I was like that growing up. I wouldn't eat anything but macaroni and.

Like, say, I would only chicken, literally. Still to this day, I have chicken for every meal. Like, grilled chicken. That's all I eat. And where was I going with my story about Arfid?

We were talking about people with allergies are super serious.

People with allergies are super serious. Thank you, Christiana. Okay. Yeah. So all I used to eat as a kid was peanut butter and jelly. And then there was this little shit in my, like, third grade class who had, like, a crazy allergy. And I couldn't bring peanut butter and jelly to school anymore. No, literally. And I went through, like, literally taste testing all these alternatives, like almond butter or whatever they had back in the day. So disgusting. Like, my life was ruined by this kid's allergy. So I understand where this girl's coming from. No, I understand where she's coming. I understand where the husband's coming from. Like, sometimes you just gotta get your fix.

I agree. I don't think I could ever. Oh, my God. I couldn't be with somebody who was allergic to peanuts.

Really? That's very helpful.

The love of your life was allergic to, like, chicken, and you couldn't have chicken?

That's a good question. Because, like, I need chicken to live. I have it every meal. I had it for lunch. And I probably have.

That's how I feel. Like, I couldn't marry someone allergic to cats because there's never gonna be a time in my life where I don't have a cat. Wait, wait, wait.

What? You like cats? Oh, my God. You're. You were perfect. Oh, you look.

Were you gonna tell me?

Hate, like, literally would kill one if I could. What? I would literally kill cat if you touch me.

Are you kidding me?

No. No. I think cats are, like, seriously the scariest, most disgusting things on the planet. Hate you. No, no. I hate you, too. You can go. What are you talking.

Maybe cats never chosen you.

Or maybe I have. No. That.

You're horrible.

I have dogs. Do you have dogs?

I don't have the dogs. I love dogs. I love dogs, but I just.

You so don't give me cat energy.

I didn't. I never really cared for cats. I was indifferent about cats until I had, like, one cat that I met that I loved so much and changed you. I just was like, I have to get one tomorrow.

So you have one, like, at your house right now?

Yeah. Her name is Murphy.

Her name is Murphy. And what is she like?

She looks exactly like Bella Hadid. She's perfect. She's hypoallergenic and she. She's just like, sassy. She doesn't. She's cuddly. She's not like, okay, what if he.

Like, fell in love with a guy? He was perfect. Like completely perfect. But he was like, me, like, hated cats. Wow, really?

My one non negotiable. Like, wow, really gone deal breaker. Yes.

What if he's a billionaire with a b?

Seriously, care, really do not care.

But he could build your cat, like, its own house, its own mansion or a wing with a. In your own house for the cat. Yeah.

Can I spend five days a week.

In it and you still have to, like, be in a relationship with the person?

No.

Oh, my God.

I'm in shock because I want to have seven of them.

Damn.

And I think that you haven't met the right cat. Cuz nobody hate. That's like, that's. You can't say that actually.

Like, I haven't met a cat. Like, I won't even go near one. I did. No, no, like, seriously. I did cat yoga once. Like, I was forced, you know, cat yoga is.

Yeah, but I don't. I can't imagine that that would be even a good experience for anyone.

That was horrifying. But even before that, I was like, so afraid of cats. Well, are you?

Is it a fear?

Yes. Yes, yes.

Oh, okay, well, that's understandable. Cats, like, a lot of cats are meant and they're mean to people who.

Don'T like descent descendants of like the lion, you know, like, and that's living in that house.

So fucking amazing to me. It's like, cuz I was just watching like, our planet the other day, and.

I'm not kidding, I was like, love our planet.

I was watching this. The cheetah on there, her name is Martini.

Mm hmm.

And I'm thinking about it, I'm like, I have one. I have tiny. One of those in my house. Like, imagine you had a tiny elephant that you could have in your backyard.

No, that's pretty sick. I like that when you put it like that.

It's so cool. And their instincts, everything about them is the same. Also, cats, you know, they're just born knowing what to do they know what to eat? They know to go in a litter box. Like, you don't have to do anything.

As somebody with a puppy clean herself.

She goes to the bathroom herself.

That's huge.

I don't have to take her out. It's the easiest thing ever. And then she just cuddles up on my pillow at night, and she gives me serotonin, and she's literally on a trip.

Like, does anybody need to watch your cat 100%?

I will not leave her alone for even 8 hours.

Who's watching her right now?

Well, I'm not gone for 8 hours.

Oh, right. Okay. Okay. I mean, I don't know how long I'll keep you here. Are you ready for another tear toaster submission? Yes. Longtime listener. Love you both so much. So I have a situation coming up, and I'm curious to hear your thoughts on how you'd approach it. My husband and I have been together for seven years, and we'll be going to a wedding in a few weeks. We will be seeing a girl that he admitted to cheating on me with. This happened four years ago, and immediately after it happened, my husband remorsefully admitted to blackout, drunkenly making out with his high school friend. We've moved on from it since. However, how would you approach interacting with the girl your husband made out with? The thought of seeing her makes me want to throw up. Please share any advice for interacting with her since I know I'll have to say hi to her. Would you just try to look your best, not acknowledge her love you, and will confidently take your advice? That's really hard.

Really hard. Because in my head, I want to be, like, throw a drink on her, of course. But your husband was the problem in that particular scenario. So if you can go hand in hand with your husband to the wedding, you can probably give her a little head nod. Yeah.

I also feel like if you were looking for a reason to not go to this wedding, now you have one. I'm always looking for a reason to.

Get out of it. What are you gonna do? Send your husband to the wedding alone?

Oh, no, we're both not going.

Oh, good. Like, if I depends on whose wedding is it?

I'm not sending you to a wedding with your girlfriend. Like, no.

Yeah. Like, do you have to go to, like, is it. How close are you guys?

Right. And sometimes, like, I really don't want to go to something, and I'll, like, really search for a reason. And this, like, it's kind of right in front of you. So if you didn't want to go. Like, you don't have a dress already and you're just kind of dreading it. I feel like you don't have to go.

Well, it sounds like it's his wedding too, because it's like his high school friend, so it must be someone related to him.

Yeah. And I feel like you guys shouldn't go. Like. And that's your husband's punishment. Seriously, for so fun.

And sometimes, like. Well, it depends, like, if can. You look really good and the girl, like, hates you.

I know, but it's like, still just, like. So it's, you know, it is. It's just fucking unfortunate. And if I imagine you will go and I would just be, like, quiet and nice. It's always best to kill him with kindness.

Yeah. And, like, watched me before you. And they did that. He, like, showed up to the wedding.

Correct. Just. I love you.

Like, yeah, yeah.

Like, it's fine. It's not like, the biggest deal. Also, when you said your husband cheated on her, obviously I thought you. That they fucked. Yeah, but. And obviously making out is wrong, but it's a different level of cheating than, like, sleeping. So I think you're gonna be okay. Just look really pretty and be really nice. You never regret being nice. That's a thing.

And keep your eye on him. Seriously?

Oh, for sure. Yeah. And, like, I. It's nice that, like, you're. You gave him grace. You're a stronger woman than I am. But you know what they say. Once a cheater, always a cheater. So just keep that in mind.

They do say that.

Just keep it in mind. I'm sure he's amazing. We love him, but just keep that in mind. Always keep it in the back of your head. Our third and final one. I need your guys advice because I can't tell anyone. I know. They will judge me. I went snooping in my boyfriend's closet and I found an engagement ring. And I just feel like it's way too small. I know. I can hear how bratty I sound, but I really want something bigger. And I absolutely know that we can afford something bigger. It also does not fit me. Like, it doesn't even go over my knuckle. So how do I subtly tell him my ring size so he knows to get a resize before proposing? And how do I make it known that size does matter? That's really awkward.

Maybe it's not for you. Oh, my. I don't know what I'm even talking about.

No, by the way, facts. Like, why would anyone seriously buy a ring without knowing for sure if the person's size. It's such an expensive thing.

I would also be just, like, kind of hurt if. Yeah, exactly. If somebody didn't take into account what I wanted, like, or ask my friends or something. And none of my friends are gonna let a guy buy me a baby.

An ugly. Yeah. And this is literally that episode of Sex in the City where Aiden, Carrie finds a ring and it's literally so fucking ugly. And she doesn't know what to do. And she talks to her friends. And Miranda was like, wait, you don't like it? I picked it out, and then she's, like, struggling. And then he proposes, and the ring is gorgeous. And it was because Samantha stepped in and was like, oh, get rid of that. So that's what you need. You need to send in a friend. Learn from Samantha Jones. Send in a friend.

That's a genius idea. Honest to God. And have the friend be the one who is kind of abroad about it because you don't have to be ungrateful.

And this is something like, if it's really bothering you, like, it's so expensive, why spend so much money on something you actually hate? You're actually doing him a thing.

See, I would be screwed. I'd be stuck with a ring on my hand that I hated.

Are you, like, a people pleaser in that sense?

Well, yeah. I would never, like, tell somebody I didn't like a gift they gave me ever. Even if it's an engagement ring. I would be like, this is the most beautiful thing I've ever seen, and I would want to.

What's your dream engagement ring?

I don't know. I've never really thought about. I don't think a lot about marriage.

I was gonna ask, do you want to get married in this life?

Yes. Oh, you do? I would love you see yourself as.

I don't know.

I think it depends on who I would be marrying because I. How all my relationships have been, it. They're just so different based on, like, who it. Like, do you have a titan on of them or the same.

I feel like a lot of your boyfriends look different. Yeah.

No.

Damn. But I'm so excited to see what's in store for you. I know.

Me too. Like, Glenn Powell, perhaps.

Glenn Powell is. Let me see if fibula.

Text me back. Oh, my God. I'm gonna kill myself.

No, like, for real. I feel like you and fibs.

He knows already, though. That's the embarrassing part, is like, he literally already knows.

She's fucking awesome. We had a blast last time we hung out. Stop. I'm kind of.

Well, he knows you're with me right now, so of course he's gonna be nice. And then as soon as I leave, he's gonna be like, oh, God, she's so annoying.

Oh, stop. He's so sweet. And I feel like actually, I heard she doesn't date. Okay, well, that's helpful.

So that helped. Maybe somebody was telling it, like me that for my ego to make you feel better, but I'm gonna, like, sleep on that and just think like, oh, he's just not interested in dating.

But I love that you put it out there and you manifested. You never regret shooting your shot at all. At all.

And I love to just like say out loud who I love. What?

I mean, what days do you guys drop your canceled episodes? Where can people find it?

It's on YouTube and obviously all streaming, streaming platforms. But we prefer YouTube and we drop on Fridays.

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