This has probably happened to you every couple of months or so. You look up from what you're doing, otherwise occupied, feeding the dog or paying your power bill, and you look up, and they'll be trying once again to make Roseanne Barr be quiet. Shut up, Roseanne Barr. You're a Nazi. You're crazy. It's not working. Roseanne Barr has been in the public eye for almost 40 years, and amazingly, she's more influential than ever. We thought we would check in with her and see how she's doing. Roseanne Barr, how are you?

I'm great, Tucker. How are you?

You're obviously unbowed. I can't remember I was the other day and someone was like, Roseanne Barr is a Nazi. She's an anti-Semite. I'm thinking, you can probably criticize her. Probably not a Nazi or an anti-Semite. Probably not. They canceled, famously, they canceled the resurgence of your show, the relaunch of your show.

Just like you when it was number one. Hey, don't their shareholders wonder why they would do that?

I don't know how that spooky finance stuff works.

I don't either.

I've still got some questions. I will say that.

But did you figure out, like I did, that it's really personal?

Oh, it's always personal. The thing about television is everything's personal on TV. Yeah, it's about you. That's great when everyone's like, Oh, you're Jesus. But it's not so good when they're like, You're fired. I don't take any of it personally, thank heaven. But you get fired in this very, very public way, become the center of the national debate over Trump, but you don't go away, and then all of a sudden, I look up and you're everywhere. How did that happen?

I don't know how it happened. I really don't.

Did you expect to be doing this at this stage of your life?

No. Well, I guess when I was really little, I saw myself doing something that was going to have good consequences to it. And so anyways, this week I was like, Hey, this is like when you were little and now you're doing it. It was one of those minutes where you go, Thank you, God, because I do feel like God puts me where he wants me.

I mean, I'll tell you all that later.

I go like, Hey, I'm a lady citizen journalist for my old age. Hell, that's great. It's great because I love that. Oh, no, I can't remember her name, but that one that used to interview everybody in the '50s. She had her own show and she did The The greatest interviews.

I'm so stupid. I can't remember her name.

Check that lady out, my son.

Lady in the '50s who used to interview people.

She had a great interview show. Anyway, but I like being a citizen journalist. You're a real journalist, but you're also a writer, which astounds me because we never see that anywhere. I mean, you are such a great writer. I want to talk to you about that, and I look forward to doing that. But you are such a great writer because I have so much to say.

I want to say it like this. Let me think. I'm a deeply religious Jew. Of course. Which is why they call me a Nazi, a Nazi, a Nazi, and a racist.

Yeah, of course. And a transphobe, and whatever, a Zionist baby killer. They call me everything. Before that, when I was on the left, the right used to, but they're the same, I guess. It's all the same people. They're playing different parts. They just call me a cow, destroying the American dream, man-hater. They're always throwing stuff at me, and none of it was ever true. But I had a lips view of all that gauntlet of hate since I first showed up.

Sorry, we haven't answered your question. It's Arlene Francis.

No, not Arlene. She was good, though. Barbara Walters. Not Barbara Walters. I knew her. She was good, though, with Anwar Sadat, wasn't she? No, she was an ugly little woman with brown hair.

Okay, so an ugly little woman with brown hair. Bay Emerson?

No. Wendy Berry? No.

Check Google ugly little woman with brown hair, 1950s.

The greatest interview. May, Brussels. Thank you, God.

May, Brussels. Was this on Salt Lake City stations?

Yeah, my dad used to watch it.

Okay.

He'd say, This woman has integrity. My dad used to decode media for me because he wanted to be a comedian. So he always showed me how comedy works.

Anyway, oh my God, I can't even focus my mind. Anyway.

So you said you're a deeply religious Jew?

Yeah. And since I was three years old, I wrote it in my third book called Rose Anarchy. I had a conversation going with God.

I wrote it in my book.

You know how little kids have an imaginary friend? Yes. Well, mine was God.

It's weird. He chose wisely.

Yeah, because that's how we studied.

It was an Orthodox Jewish family.

That was my friend. I talked to him when I would read and study. I wanted to know everything about it, and I would talk to him. He'd always answer this in my book. I said, How come you could solve every problem on Earth?

All you got to do is just wiggle your little finger and you could stop all these problems. Why can't you do that? All you have to do is wiggle your finger. Because I was a suffering child. He said to me, Because I don't have fingers, Roseanne, but you do. And he said, And you should be very proud of that opposable thumb that I put on that hand of yours, because now you can really get busy helping a lot of people trying to make things right.

And he always gave me the answer that I knew God would give me.

He didn't ever go, Yeah, go get them. Yeah, they're wrong in their religion.

He didn't ever say none of that.

So I knew it was him.

So he told me all the time, Go over here and do and go over there and do that.

Just trust me on this.

I did that my whole life, with the exception of the few marriages that really effed me up. But then I got rid of those guys and continued on the path I was supposed to go on.

Did you not ask for guidance on the marriages?

I didn't listen.

It wasn't God's fault.

Yeah, he told me, but I go, I'm putting you on hold.

I got some physical business that you don't want to know about.

Do you think he knew?

Well, yeah. But it wasn't anything...

I was married, so it wasn't anything bad. I mean, except for It was horrible sex.

Which people should not have sex. That's one way that we can fix the world right now.

Does people stop having sex?

Yes, absolutely.

That's a tough one. It's harder than quitting smoking or something.

I know. Unless you're married and you can take care of the kids that are going to be a result of it. Isn't that common sense?

I strongly agree.

That's why I tell these young women, Don't worry about them overthrowing Roe v Wade. For one, I tell to my nieces that are all the Liberals. You don't have to worry about that. You rushed out to get the vax. You're never going to get pregnant. You're not going to have no baby. Don't even worry about it, right?

You must be their favorite aunt. You're sterile. Don't worry. How do they respond?

They get really mad. They never laugh. That's the thing about fascists that I found in my life. Fascists But they don't like laughter and they don't like discussion.

Yes.

Them are the two things they hate the most. They might be on the right and they might be on the left. But if they can't laugh at their self or anything, and they They can't discuss civilly with someone that they disagree with, they got to go.

They got to move aside because it's a whole new world now. Because we got citizen journalists. Yes.

We have journalists such as yourself with a conscience who care about this country and what it means and how we have to do everything we can to to save it at this late date.

Late date.

For all of us, hello, and stop buying in the bullshit.

I said that to introduce the POTUS, the deep state bullshit.

Actually, it's funny you mentioned we have that clip.

Really? Yes.

Roseanne Barr, this is your life. Here you are. Aren't we all fed up with the deep state bullshit?

Deep state bullshit. Deep state bullshit. Deep state bullshit. Deep state bullshit. Deep state bullshit. Deep state bullshit. In the bullshit. We want Trump, the Magador, to kill that goddamn bull. And the bullshit, kill that goddamn ball. Okay.

Now, I just put the political analysis on hold for two seconds. You're obviously enjoying that event.

Oh, it was so fun.

It was so awesome. It's always fun to make people laugh and come alive.

I think even if you didn't like Trump and you weren't going to vote for Trump, you'd look at that and be like, That looks like a pretty good time.

Oh, no, I wouldn't do it if I were.

Oh, of course. I don't mean you, but how could anyone watch that? I wouldn't be out there doing that for nobody. Watch that. You're wearing a cowboy hat.

Yeah, I swiped it off a guy. Screaming in the senities. You did? They didn't have the mic, so I had to stand on my tiptoes, which I could barely reach the mic. But yeah, I swiped this hat off a guy.

I don't like how my hair looked.

Don't you like how my hair... I cut my own hair with toenail clippers. It took me four days, but I cut it hair by hair because I was so sick of it. But yeah, I had it. In the mirror?

Yeah, of course, in the mirror. I'm not crazy.

Did anyone see you do it?

No. I was in a room by myself.

But I loved it, and I had spent a lovely week down there at Mar-a-Lago. It was so awesome.

I love him, and I just loved it.

What do you think of Trump the guy? You know him, obviously. What do you think of him?

Well, as I always say, he's the only guy in my Hollywood career that ever returned a favor. He's the only one who ever returned a favor and gave me back more than I had given him. I think he has such integrity. I think he's like me a lot. He tries to be funny, and he is really funny. Yeah, he is. The guy's really funny. He's got great timing.

I laugh.

So you've known him a long time. We all laugh. I mean, we all think he's funny.

What favorite did he return?

Well, I was doing my... I think it was my second or third HBO special, stand-up special. I always wait till the last minute. Anyway. What?

To write it?

Yeah. Because unless I'm in a panic, I can't write. I know what you mean. You know what I mean?

Yes.

Unless all that chemical panic kicks in, my brain doesn't function well.

Unless you're running from a bear, you don't run fast.

Yeah, that's exactly it. Hello.

Oh, that reminds me of best joke my dad told me, but I'll say that. But I'll tell you after about the running from the bear.

What are we talking about?

Tell me about when you first met Trump, you're doing your HBO special.

Oh, no, that isn't when I first met him, but he let me film it at Trump, New Jersey. What's that called? Atlantic City. Atlantic City, yeah. And not only that, but he drove me out in his packard on stage. He drove me out in his packard, got out and escorted me to the microphone, which was so lovely because my second special, I did it as a has been who's coming back.

Yes. Oh, my God, did they hate that?

I got sued by every single casino in the world that had to give them back all the money. This is when I really famous after my first HBO special. And so my second one, I thought it would be really funny to come back and be a failed diva, really prophetic like it is now, and go, When I went to rehab, I say I was injured. I was thrown off a horse while making National Velvet, and my doctor prescribed crack, and I had all this stuff. But then I went to rehab.

I didn't really want to go, but my publicist said it would help my comeback, and it was that thing.

Then I watched Barbra Streisand's One Voice. She did this concert in her backyard where she charged all of Hollywood something like $10,000 to come in her backyard and watch her. I did her act word for word because it was the greatest thing any entertainer has ever done. I never thought I'd ever sing in public again, but then again...

No, she goes like this.

I could never imagine myself singing public again.

But then, again, I could never imagine the possibility of nuclear winter. She actually said that.

And so I did it.

But she wasn't kidding?

No, she wasn't kidding. Do you know her? Not kidding. A little bit. She's deeply serious about what she says. She's just been in a bubble for far too long.

I never was in a bubble, like I say, even I was very much in a bubble in my own family. I lived in Salt Lake City, Utah. We were Jews in Salt Lake. So my joke, we stuck out like a sore thumb in that town because we only had the one mother.

So that But your family, as I remember, you were Jews in Salt Lake City.

Jews in a Mormon state selling Catholic religious icons or something like that?

Yeah. My dad and grandpa while they sold pictures, 3D pictures of Jesus to our Mexican neighbors, and they'd get $2 on welfare payday.

We had to go knock on the door and get the $2 on welfare payday. We were on welfare, too.

But it was handy to live in the neighborhood where you were selling the pictures. But they were like this. I was a little girl, and it was Jesus like this with his arms out so nice and blonde and everything. Then when you took two steps, he's crucified. I used to go through that room like, it added to my PTSD.

Oh, did they keep the pictures in the house?

Yeah, because I had two rooms.

So they stacked around the wall there.

It's not your average childhood. It's not your average childhood. I was always a stranger in a strange land, but it gave me a unique perspective, and God gave me a unique perspective. He was talking to me He's like, Rosanne, have you noticed what a gift I've given you by putting you in your lifetime to be alive in a world where the jokes just write themselves? I go, I'm grateful.

Thank you.

Because they do.

Oh, yeah.

It's never been easier to write a company. It's just perfect.

So you're enjoying it? Things are collapsing, but you're enjoying it.

But like you, like Virginia Wolf said, the job of the writer is to put the severed parts together.

They create the clear picture for the viewer or the reader.

That's what you do, too. So you know exactly what I'm talking about. How fun is it to put those parts together?

And those two wires have never gone together, never been allowed to go together.

And they just start a frigging huge once park sets the whole woods on fire. We're seeing it. We're seeing people go, wow, I've been lied to my whole life every day.

Is What about the people that you work with for so many years in the entertainment business? Are any of them coming to these conclusions?

No, I don't think so. But once you're in that bubble, the bubble of show business or whatever bubble it is, your little secret society or club, you don't never come out of it. You got to walk out like Egypt, like the Jews in Egypt. If you're not going to leave Egypt, you're never going to know what's beyond it.

Two-thirds of the Jews, the Israeli tribes, they didn't want to leave slavery.

They had to be forced to leave slavery. That's how it is. People that are able to still laugh and think and put severed parts together and get a clear picture are very needed now. I'm praying that it will expand ever more so with the things that are coming out in the news, but they do try to hide the news on the news. The news is to hide the news. I've noticed.

Yeah. So this whole- The sin is to tell the truth. Yeah, that's what you're punished for.

In a world of lies, the truth is seen as...

I can't remember how that thing goes.

The truth is seen as something nasty. The truth is the only crime.

Yeah.

So you've been on the road with Trump. You were at that rally in Florida. Where do you see that going for him? Do you think he's going to win?

I don't know. It seems... Of course, I want that to happen.

But then when you get on Twitter or any of those social media things, you know where everybody is paid to lie.

I saw it happening on Facebook a million years ago. I saw all of this my whole life. I was raised in an apartment house with survivors from Auschwitz, and I always knew it would come here because it always goes everywhere. It's a virus.

I see people in the streets repeating Nazi slogans that they don't even know come from the Nazis.

Yeah, I've seen it my whole life. I do think Trump is the anti-Hitler, even though Hillary says he's the Hitler Hitler. But I mean, that one is amazing, isn't it? How they use the reversal and the mirror image as they lock up, as they use the judicial system to persecute their opponent legally, and they make up these fake attorney general lawsuits that don't even have a victim like LaTisha James, who's seen as a civil rights worker or something, abuse the law to that point and allow no jury. I mean, it's just so terrifying to me as a Jewish American, and that that's allowed and that the press honks it up. They just honk it up, crank it up. We got to keep this going. We got a lot of people to divide and get hate on each other, which is why I came back to television. I didn't want them to do this because I know where it leads. What starts with the Jews doesn't end with the Jews. The Jews are just the convenient canary in the cold mile because a lot of people don't like us.

There's a lot of reasons they don't.

When you got names like Epstein, Weinstein, Blinken, people that are like, yelling people that are on the side of against the American taxpayer, for God's sake, Soros, Kissinger.

I can name a ton of them.

And like I say in my act, just because a very sizable portion of our people are horrible fucking people, please don't hold us all to that.

But it's embarrassing. And then they're the ones calling me an anti-Semite. But they didn't stick up for me when I said the Iran deal was an existential threat to Israel in so many words in the captioning of a meme during a three-month conversation about the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, Iran, and the United States.

Nobody Jewish stuck up for me because I'm a Nazi, because I like Trump.

And why do I like Trump?

Because Trump understands the Jewish people, and we owe a deep debt of gratitude to him for that. And that is why myself and my mother, who's a lifelong Democrat, unbelievably, also loves Trump. That's a minor miracle right there, buddy. Yeah, because she finally saw what the Iran deal is really about. And so she can't vote Democrat ever again at age 90.

Pardon my ignorance. I watched this happen. I knew some of the people involved in it, but I never really understood what the Iran deal is about.

Well, it's about what just happened in Israel on October seventh.

That's what it's about in shorthand. They unleashed a Remember in the movie Planet of the Apes? Yes. Where they went after all the human beings who could read. They didn't even think they could talk, but they feared they might be able to talk. So all those militarized beings, like in Star Wars, came and beat down and locked those people in cages, the human beings, in the movie Planet of the Apes, which was written by Rod Serling and was actually a movie about Nazi Germany and the Jews. That was the reference I used in my tweet.

But you have to have a certain historical vantage point to understand that I was saying that, which they lack in Hollywood.

Yes.

Because all they are is, We want a woman. We want a woman. We want this skin tone Because they're fetishists. They're nothing for our Republic, our way of life, our Constitution Republic, which people have laid their lives down for decades. I've seen it for seven decades. People have laid their lives down for that.

And then they go about talking what's American, and it makes me sick when they say, Save our democracy.

Well, democracy isn't burning down cities. No. Democracy, and forget that word because that means mob rule.

But the heart of America, we keep being denied to see the real Americans, the heroes of America.

I see them, though, because everywhere I go, I see them. Those are the people that... Those nurses, say, those nurses and doctors that refused to go along. Those nurses and doctors that refused to go along, those brave people in our armed forces who were kicked out because they understood that no government, least of all this one, has the right to force untested drugs on a captive population because that's nothing but fascism, and Hitlerism, and Nazism, and Stalinism, all mixed together.

Because this is exactly what Hitler would be like if he had computers.

That's what we're living in.

And now we got artificial intelligence, where they're going to recreate people's lives using artificial intelligence for their movies.

So nobody's even going to have a right to their their own life story. They'll steal everybody's life story. It's so horrible.

I feel like it's 99% sewed up.

I don't know if this is the end of the world. It looks like it to me.

Have you asked God about that?

Well, like I told my son, I don't really give a damn because I'll die my way out of it.

But you all have to deal with it. But here's the good news, that this is what I want to I know you care.

In the Torah, it says that the 99% of this world is just physical.

It's that 1% that matters. I think that 1% is the one they can't factor in because they don't know what it is. They don't got it, but we do. That's the 1% that is where all wars are decided and one and lost. That's God. I Just invite people to pray with me and pray themselves in their own words, not by rote, not by prayers they've already heard, but in their own words, because I know we do have the power spirit together to make this all stop and change it. I know we can do it. I just wish other people would know that, too. I did it in my life from a real low point, let myself Gave myself permission to believe. I guess that's it. Gave myself permission to connect and believe and walk in. To do what I believe, to walk in my... I don't know what you call it. Just to say what, to live what I say I believe, to actually believe it and then live it. It's pretty amazing and it's transformative.

How do you feel different now that you've done that?

Well, I first did in 1999 because I saw this all coming.

Because I always... Everyone says they got all these mental illness things for it. But really, I just found a safe place inside myself that was connected to God at a young age. It's a relationship. I don't know what you call it. But I just have been walking deeply with my God for a long, long time, and I gave myself. I gave myself. Well, she don't matter. I just want to be all in for America. I want to be all in for the United States of America because this is where my family would have died if they didn't get here. I saw that my whole life as a child. They would be dead, and I never would have been born if they didn't have an America. I wanted to be here for ever. I do, too. I know you do. I do.

You spend a lot of time in Hawaii?

I haven't been back in a year since I went on that Fox deal.

I was doing that Fox deal.

That was January sixth, a couple of years back when I was going to come do that special.

I moved to Texas, December fifth, and started working on my act. Come on. Talking about waiting to the last minute. But I haven't been back in Hawaii since then.

I mean, you haven't been there since the fires?

No, they happened on another island. Yeah, not the one you live on. Yeah, they happened in Lehina town.

What was that?

Oh, my God.

Honestly, I feel that they target Certain populations.

They don't like anybody that has a direct connection to their sacred ground. I think it has a lot to do with October seventh also.

They don't like the people to live above their sacred ground and their sacred ancestors either. Because they might be able to put up a hotel there, for crying out loud.

Them people, they're nothing but useless eaters. They're a bunch of Bible cleaners and gun toters and despicables or deportables, whatever she calls it.

They're just in the way.

Then they bring out Oprah, You get $700, and you get You get $700, and you get $700.

It's just part of it. Nothing has been done for them.

Is that a criticism of Oprah? Because I don't know that we're allowed to do that.

No, it's not. I'm just Yeah, it is because it was just, oh, my God. Yeah, it was an attack on the Hawaiian people, and that's something that's very meaningful to me, too.

When I went to Hawaii, I always... I won't even go into that.

But Yeah, they haven't done nothing. They're removing a lot of those people from behind all over the Mai Island now, on a big island.

They're putting them in Hilo. That's a war crime, in my opinion.

But they're after Every tribal people, if you notice, that have oil under them or a place where they can put a 15 minutes smart city or a place where they can have a pipeline.

They don't like people that are connected to the Earth. I've noticed. By ancestry.

That's all a bunch of crap they read in their old books that say we aren't supposed to be able to have sex with kids.

In short. In short.

Last question. Do you see… That's maybe the greatest summary I've heard in a long time.

Thank you. Did you hear my other one? I said it to Dinesh Dsoussa.

Obamaism.

Obamaism. I like that. You think Obama's behind all this?

Of course. Duh. He said it himself. I need his old sock puppet upstairs so I can sit down here in the basement and do what I do best, dropping bombs on people and throwing them and getting richer. He's the richest president we've ever had. People don't even know that. They don't know Lolo Suttoro, co-founded Halliburton with the Bush family. Did you know that? No. Yeah. Okay, what else did you want to ask me? You were going to ask me something. I don't know. No, he said it's true.

I guess I'll end with this. Tell us the bear joke from your phone.

Let me see if I can remember it correctly. Oh, this guy's telling a guy, I was in the woods the other day hunting, and a bear come at me, and he started chasing facing me and I was running. I run up a tree to get away from him. And by God, the bear comes up after me, so I'm going to jump out of the tree and run, and I see a little creek there. So I run across the creek because I think he'll lose my scent in the water. But the hell No, he comes across the water. He's up there and he's got me up against a barrel of hay there. And I just shit my pants. And the guy goes, Well, I would have shit my pants, too, if the bear was on me like that. The guy goes, Oh, no, not then. Just now. I shit my pants.

Your father told you that?

Yeah.

How old were you when he told you that?

Eight.

That's one of his good Do you ever have any home movies from- I told you- Oh, I got so many home movies. When I said, Daddy, how come Santa Claus don't come to our house like he does all the neighbor kids? When I was just little. Because Santa Claus hates the Jews. So I couldn't be no other way than this.

Rosanne, it's wonderful to see you.

It's so wonderful to see you.

I know probably next week or the week after, they're going to try and shut you down again, but I don't think it's going to work.

Well, I I'm just all about God now and preaching the gospel from the Torah. I'm going to tell everybody, if they don't start repenting, they're going straight to hell. That's what I feel like I was born to do. You know how Trump says he's been preparing his whole life for this fight?

So am I. I feel that about myself.

I think you may be onto something. People, they need to look inside and straighten up their own life and stop blaming Jews and anybody else.

That's my message.

The old books tell you you can't touch kids.

Yeah, and the old books also tell us that... I'm serious when I say this, that God has damned on this Earth anyone that is involved in any way that purposely hurts children.

God has damned them all, and it's time to say it.

Amen.

Thank you. Thank you.