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I don't know.

What do you got? Brain damage? Who's the President? Simple question. When doctors are trying to assess whether you've had a stroke or not, they say, Who's the President?

You'd probably get the same answer out of anybody. I know. I think Obama is the President myself. I really do. He took quite a while to endorse the Camel Toe, didn't he? Yeah, he did. I think Joe Biden put the fucks to him on that. I didn't think they... I don't think they wanted her.

When you say, just for people who don't live in the region, when you say, put the fucks to him, what does that mean?

He was given on the middle finger. Oh, okay. Yeah. She is not qualified to do anything in my... I wouldn't hire her for a kindergarten art teacher I wouldn't. I don't think anyone would. Yeah, I mean, how did she... That's another thing. I mean, I know how she got in because DEI or DEIE, whatever you want to call it. But, yeah, we got to get rid of those laws. Which laws? The I don't know if they're laws. Are any of these things laws that these people are doing? Do you even know?

No, I don't think so.

I don't think they're laws. I just think they've spoken assumptions.

I don't think you're getting a job at J. P. Morgan, if that's your question.

Right. But I don't think that these things that people are doing are laws. I don't think they have to hire somebody because they're of color, a woman. There's no law saying you have to have 39% of your employees have to be of color. There's no law, is there?

I think the Justice Department will sue you if you don't. Will they? Yeah. Because too many white men is bad. They might write a constitution or build a functional country or something.

They have laws on the books now that say you have to do that?

No, the regulations.

They can sue you then? Yeah. They would just sue you?

Yeah, because it's prima facethe discrimination.

There's no black and white law saying you have to have so many people of certain color or race or gender working for you, right?

I don't think passed by the Congress.

Right. So if you had a company of 50- Because that itself would violate civil rights law, you can't discriminate on the basis of race, right?

That is a law in the United States.

If I had an asphalt company and I had 50 employees, then, and I didn't hire somebody because... So a guy fills out an application, I don't hire him because he's got four OUIs and he doesn't have a dump truck license, but he happens to be of color. Can he sue the asphalt company and say, Well, he didn't hire me. What happens all the time. Right. And do they win?

Absolutely, they win. But there is no law saying-I don't know about the dump truck license or the four OUIs, though I think probably, yes, they'd win. But certainly, it's very, very common for people who scored lower on the test that gages whether you can do the job or not. Right. Still still not get the job. Oh, absolutely. And win. No, absolutely.

So they don't go by the test?

No, they haven't tested.

They don't go by the... Okay, we had a bunch of cones set up and we had two and these guys did the best on their test.

Yeah, but what color are they? That's what matters. Are they Hones? Yeah, the Hones are orange. I know that. You've been saying for a long time that things are going to fall apart.

You have been. I can't wait. For over a decade, you always say, It's coming, and when it does, these people are fucked. Yeah, they are.

It does seem like a little less crazy prediction right now.

Right. I'm I mean, they are falling apart. If you look at the talk about looting, what happens is the biggest thing with losing the energy grid, all the millions of scenarios that can happen. It's already happening.

California. Well, California, exactly right. So what do you think about buying big plastic bins of freeze-dried food?

Yeah, you should have that's a short term solution. It's not going to get you through the Great Depression.

Yeah. No, it's not.

It's not going to get you through post-Civil War down south living. It's going to get you through two weeks without power at most, maybe a year if you get a whole stockpile of it. But no, you got to have a mindset of, Am I going to be able to live like I have to live when that time comes? To simplify your life. Say you've got a daughter that lives in New York City. Okay, obviously, she's not going to be able to live in New York City. It's going to be burned down and looted, which it almost is now. Yeah. Okay. Is she going to be ready to come to New Jersey or Maine or where New Jersey is probably still too close in that situation. I don't know. But Pennsylvania, Maine, to live, is she going to be able to say, Okay, this has happened with the great... We'll just use the Great Depression for a baseline. Great Depression has happened. Everybody's jumping out of the buildings in New York City. All right, we're going to hang out in Maine for 20 years and get our life back together. Is your family ready for that?

Everybody you're close to ready for that? No. Whether they're trained or not, the training doesn't matter. It's just in their mind, you got to be ready for that stuff. You got to always have that. Live like you live. I live very modern. Do everything modern. Everything I got is power, everything I got. But in the back of my brain, I'm like, I might have to cut my firewood by hand because I'm not going to be able to get any gas someday.

Well, the fact that you use firewood in the first place suggests you're not totally modern. Right. So you burn firewood?

Yeah, a lot. Probably eight cords a year.

How much is eight cords?

A wheeler load, a trucklet. When you see the big truck going down the road, that's about eight quart.

I'm just saying this for... I know how much that is. So you burn it for heat? Yeah.

And my father burns wood. I have an oil furnace back up. I bought a I have 100 gallons of oil when I bought, when I moved into my house, which was 10 years ago. And I still, I probably burn 10 of the 100 gallons. So I just turn the furnace on every year to make sure it works.

That's about it. So you burn your house on your farm is not tiny, but it's not huge. And you burn eight cords of wood. What does it take to prepare that wood?

If I buy it tree length, which I have before. So the truck comes, it drops it off tree length. I would say with the machinery that I have, which is a hydraulic splitter and a dump trailer and a conveyor and a chain saw and a tractor and all those stuff every farm has, I'd say a week. A week? If I don't do it straight, I'd do a couple hours after supper type stuff. But yeah, it would be a week. If I took a week off, I could get my firewood done. If two weeks, I could do mine and my father's together, probably. If I have to cut the tree down and drag it out of the woods, then it's probably two weeks.

What is that just for people who don't cut their own firewood, eight cords of wood? How many cords is your dad?

Thirty-five trees is eight cords.

How many cords does your dad burn?

Probably six, six to eight. We'll just call it eight. We each burn a load a year.

Okay, so 16 cords of wood. Let's say you have it dropped off in front of your house with a truck and it's just tree length. No branches, but tree length. What do you have to do to get it ready?

You got to cut Well, I cut mine 2'20, but 16 inches, most people, depends on your stove. I pick it up with the tractor, I cut it with a chainsaw. I have a pretty good, efficient system. You got to cut it to length. You got to split it to size so it dries. If it's small stuff, you don't have to split it. Round wood is the best. Unsplit wood, every time you split it, they say you lose 10% of the efficiency out of it because you've made it smaller. A big chunk of wood burns really efficiently. So you always leave it big. And I always split it as I need it. I'll break it down to where I can handle it, but I don't break it down really small to start with. Then in When you're in the cellar, then you can, okay, I need some small stuff. You just split up what you need. Then you don't have a whole pile of small stuff that burns real fast. And then you got to stack it and dry it. That's the time consuming thing. You can't burn it green. It takes about a year to dry wood.

Really? Yeah.

So you have, I guess, 32 cords of wood set now? Yeah, I do.

I got mine. I got next year's is all done. My father is working on his... He's got next year's all... We had his next next year, all done this winter, and I'm doing his year after that right now. And then this winter, I'll do mine next year. I can actually dry it. If I had it done in the winter, it will be ready in the fall. So when I say a year, it's like a season. Dries pretty fast at my house, and I stack it so it dries.

So that's with machines.

If you're doing it by hand, I can't imagine. You see the pictures of the old timers out there with the cross-cut saw in the mall, and they were probably... Those old farmhouses I've heard 10, 12 cords in winter. Can you imagine doing that all by hand?

Is there heating with fireplaces? I mean, before woods. No, really?

An open pit. Yeah. Can you imagine cutting that all by hand?

So how would you cut 10 cords with no gasoline or diesel?

You have to get a sharp saw and go to it the old way. You have to have more kids.

That is the answer.

Start breeding.

How long do you think that would take you?

Oh, that would take... I think it It could just be an ongoing thing. I think every day after supper, you would just go out for an hour and cut maybe a day's worth of wood. You wouldn't want to overwhelm yourself. That's If you don't have machinery, that's how you do every gardening chore, a firewood chore. You just try not to overwhelm yourself and make it a chore.

So if all the things, just think of if you're driving home and you see a tree on the side of the road that is free for the taking, it fell down or whatever, and you just stopped and grabbed it.

If you did that every day in your travels, you'd probably have enough firewood. If you just stopped and saw every tree on the side of the road and cut it up, throw it in the back of your truck. That's what we used to do in the old days. We didn't drive by a tree. We would stop and cut it up and throw it in the truck.

Did you get paid by the town for cleaning up the road?

No.

So of all the things that were you, power grid going down is probably going to be at the bottom, right?

Yeah. No, not big. Other than food storage, my freezer. I don't know if the... I think things would have to really get bad to not be able to get any gas, gasoline and diesel at the stores. I don't know. It depends on how bad things got. If it was like a war situation, it would be bad.

If the refineries shut down.

Yeah, if the refineries shut down and how much... You're not going to waste that gas mowing your lawn. You need to run a generator for your food. You're not going to drive unaccessed. You're not going to just drive for the sake of driving somewhere. If you've got to have that gas to live off, I don't know how bad it's going to get, but you can store food without power. You can can the meat like they did. You can butcher, get all your neighbors together. Okay, we're going to butcher a cow today. So you cut it up accordingly. So that's how they did it in the old day before refrigeration. The butcher, butchered things accordingly so the meat would get used up fast enough. And small animals, small animals were developed in the olden days, we'll call them, a lot of times for refrigeration purposes. If you're one family out in the middle of the plains living, you're not going to butcher a cow in the middle of July. You're going to butcher a sheep that you can eat.

Exactly.

Before it spoils. Before it spoils. Or you're going to can it. But canned meat is not my favorite thing.

Yeah, you get botulism, which we now think of as the core ingredient in Botox, but it's also- I think people just...

I wouldn't say prepping would be more of Just a way to start thinking about things. Like I said, is your family ready?

I mean, it's hard to imagine it if you've been a beneficiary of 100 years of modernity and ease and wealth.

We've all had an easy life.

That's exactly right.

I've had a super easy life as far as that stuff goes. I mean, we all work hard and do things.

So what do you store now? And I should say for the... I didn't even introduce you. This is Patrick Feaney, lives in has had every job imaginable and lives basically, from my perspective, you live pretty close to off-grid. You produce most of your food at home on your farm. Animals, you've got a pretty amazing grow operation. How many different vegetables do you grow?

Oh, I don't know. I'm more of a McDonald's French fry type of guy. Your wife? My wife grows... Yeah, at Everything you can imagine. Lettuce, beets. I like corn on the cob. I like all the potatoes. I love potatoes. Yeah, any vegetable you can think of. Salad greens, carrots, greenhouse.

But more than enough to live.

Oh, yeah. She feeds She supplies food to three restaurants in town and sells to 20 different people. She supplies plenty. So you're good to go with food? Oh, yeah. I would say storage would not be a... I would say the food is almost... Storage is, you got to think that short term with any food. You got your long term storage, the buckets that you buy. Yeah, that's a lot. I don't know. Are those really going to be good in 100 years?

You wonder.

Have you ever eaten a 30-year-old MRI? No. I have. It's not.

Why are you eating 30-year-old MRI?

Just to try it. I found one a couple of years ago that I had left over from the army. It wasn't that good. I never really liked them in the army, and I really don't like them now. 30 years from now, the same one.

She So what do you stockpile?

Meat in the freezer. Now, that could bite me in the ass because of the electrical grid. Freezer doesn't use much juice. So you could have your little thousand-watt Honda generator, fire it up for an hour a day, plug your freezer in, get it cold. You could do that for a while. What meat do you store? Mostly deer and moose. And if we haven't had, we got a pig, we got two pigs we just bought today. They're going to raise them. But boy, they look awful tasty that size right there. I might just have a little pig party.

Well, you texted me a picture and said they were so cute. You already think about eating them?

Oh, yeah. They look very tasty. Pig roast is very fun. No, it just would have moose-deer. I think I shot three deer last year. So that takes up some... Not a lot of meat on a deer. You really have to shoot a couple every year to make a difference. Let's you get a really big one. Moose, a lot of them might get the moose last year. So we still got moose meat.

What do you think of it?

I love moose meat. That was a good moose. I've had good moose. I've had bad moose. That was a good one. What's the difference? Just the gaminess. When you kill something, you really got to get it. Moose season can be warm. It was warm that day. Wasn't too bad, but it was probably 60 degrees. You got to hustle, get it on ice. We drugged it right on the trailer and got it right to the butcher shop, right to the guy's house with a freezer, hung it in the freezer and put it on ice when we were driving. The whole process was fast. And that makes a huge difference with game.

But you dressed in the field?

Dressed in the field. We shot at 8:30, and we were back at my parents house by 11. After we tagged it, dragged it out, tagged it. My parents house at 11:00. Mike and I took off in New Hampshire to our friend Doug with the cooler, and he's got a meat cutting business. So we were at his house by probably 3:00 in the afternoon.

How much of the dressing did you use a chainsaw for?

I didn't have to. We were close to the truck. We then drove the four wheeler right to the moose. We didn't have to cut the legs off or any of that stuff. Just cut up the middle. I use the saw off of the... I use a sawzall. Actually, it works good to cut the chest open of the sawzall.

How much meat you get out of that moose?

You got 400 pounds of meat, I believe, out of a 600, I think, 700 pound moose. That was a big moose. Deer, about 200 pound deer will get you In Maine, we have 200 pound deer. So I say 150 pound deer would be average, would be 50 pounds of meat out of 150 pound deer. I'm just saying that. Maybe 75 pounds, but a lot of bone, like a cow, all bone and fur and head.

So you got meat in your cooler. Do you have any bear in your cooler?

Not right now. I'm not a huge fan of bear meat. I did shoot one a couple of years ago, a nice small one, and it was very good eating. I shot that with snow on the ground, so I cooled it off fast. Bear meat spoils fast. They shoot bear in what, August? Yeah.

Because it's so greasy.

Yeah, it is very When you shoot something in August, you got to be fast. I don't like watching the hunting shows where they go get the deer the next morning. Yeah, I mean- You shoot the deer, and they're in Texas. I don't hunt in those places, but they're in Texas, and they shoot the deer. We'll go look for it in the morning.

What happens if you leave?

If you watch the camera footage enough, the coyotes have chewed the ass off the deer already. It can't be any good. I've shot deer in cold weather and found them the next day, and they're already starting to stink.

Do you eat it anyway?

Yeah. I mean, there's parts of it that are still good, but anything next to the belly. If it ran away, it was probably got shot anyway or not a good shot. It's all full of bile and stuff. You want to have a nice clean shot if you can. I think you owe it to any animal. You try your best. Things happen. Of course you do. But you don't want to just start whaling away at something thinking you're going to hit it in the ass or something.

I got shot a hog. It was the last time I went hog hunting. I felt so bad about it.

I mean, you didn't purposely do it. It just... Of course not. You flinch and things happen. But yeah, you want to do the best you can always. We always have great intentions.

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Bear meat? I just cook that like steak. I cut those up into steaks. I'm a throw it in a fry pan type of cooker. I'm not much on recipes. I like a little spices on my meat, cook it on the grill. I like a roast. I love a crockpot stew. You can take bad cuts of meat and throw it in the crockpot and it will...

You can put anything in the crockpot.

Yeah, you can put anything in the crockpot, and it tastes good. Those are very basic.

But the idea that if you have a 308, you've got enough nutrition, could you hunt your way out of famine?

I've heard that the old wood logger guys in the logging camps in Maine, would it be scurvy you would get without enough? Yeah. They ate all deer and moose meat, and they were getting sick, lack of vitamin C.

But are there enough mammals in the woods to support-Right now, I think at the end of the, and I believe I forget who was talking about this.

Might have been on one of your shows. But okay, it might have been Ted Nuget. Okay, when the shit hits the fan, how long is it going to be? In areas like We're pretty rural here, but we're not that rural. You can drive. There's a road everywhere. We're not like Northern Maine. There's not going to be any deer really fast. Yeah. The woods around here aren't that big. In this particular area, these deer are going to be gone fast. It's mountainous, and it's a five-mile hike to the next road, but five miles isn't that far. Yeah. No, the game is going to go fast. It's going to be during the Depression, the game went fast.

In the In the '30s, I mean-My father said when he was a kid, and that would have been the '50s, if somebody saw a deer where he grew up in Southern Maine, it was in the paper.

I mean, it was just if one popped out, it got shot. Yeah. I think that's going to happen if things get bad. There's enough people that you're not going to use self-preservation. No matter how messed up your life is or what's going on, if you're starving to death and a dog steps out in front of you, as much as you might like dogs. If your family's dying, guess what?

Yeah, dogs, too.

Yeah. I mean, I wouldn't do it. Yeah. No way I would do it. I would probably die before I ate a dog.

I would, too. But in a famine, the neighbor's kids aren't safe. Right. People get really- That's the I think that's something more to think about.

Is it ever going to get that bad? I would like to think not. I like to think that people aren't like that. I don't know. You travel more than I do and witness how cultures act. I don't think there's too many cultures that are like that now, worldwide, where they're just knocking people down and taking over. You know what I mean?

Well, certainly the culture you grew up in is not like that at all.

No, I don't know if there are places in the world where it's that bad. Absolutely. I mean, maybe the Middle East and that type of- Africa. Africa, yeah. I can't imagine it would ever get that way here. I'd like to think people are nice enough that your brother's not going to bash me over the head because I got potatoes and he doesn't.

Yeah, he's a tricky one, though. Be careful. You're looking at him off. Yeah. If I had five gallons of gas, he might bash me. He might. So do Can you stockpile gas?

It's hard, too. I mean, I use so much of it. I filled up cans the other day. I filled up my cans. I filled up your cans. And man, that doesn't last long.

So could you stockpile gas?

I think it would evaporate. You could do underground tank would be the best. You got to keep the ethanol. You'd have to buy non-ethanol gas and stuff. You can add to the gas to keep it from spoiling. Diesel fuel spoils. It gets mold in it.

Yeah.

I don't know. You have to... Yeah, you could probably do it for a couple of years, maybe five years.

But why wouldn't you want ethanol in your gas when it helps the environment?

Don't get going on that.

You don't get going on ethanol? Yeah.

The number of lectures we've had about ethanol from you is like, so you're not, just to be clear, you're not for ethanol. No. You take a look at a gummed up carburetor from ethanol gas, and it's not. The new motors are fine. If it's fuel injected and you use it every day, it's not going to hurt anything. But yeah, anytime you store anything for a long, ethanol attracts moisture. It's what you mix with water, so it will burn, but it attracts water also. In your boat, your boat sitting right there, all the water molecules that jump off the water go into the gas.

Yeah, I've noticed. It'll wreck your motor.

And it will happen to diesel fuel just like gas. Diesel fuel will soak up water just the way it is. It's natural. It's going to soak up water anyway.

So what would you, before we get to what the mindset is, what would you stockpile? Or what do you stockpile?

I would, Ammo. Ammo is good. I think Ammo is going to be, if it becomes like we just talked about, where we're only eight hours from New York City by car here. Those people that get displaced to New York could easily end up here. We're not remote. I don't know what you would call this area, suburban, I guess. Suburban. Suburbia. Maybe Maybe a little more remote than suburbian. Maybe, yeah. But it's not super remote. It's not like-It's not a map. It's not like Dacquam, Maine or anything like that. I think those people are going to come here or just use New York City for a center point, go 500-mile radius from New York City. That's Ohio, Pennsylvania. That's where they're going to go. They're probably going to go that way before they come to Maine. I would think so. Upstate New York, just because it's right there. Yeah. But that's cold up there. If you really had to survive to live off the land and it got that bad, you'd probably move out of Maine and go somewhere else.

Because the weather is just so fertile.

Yeah, exactly. In Yeah. Although we do pretty good farming in Maine, though.

In the river valleys.

Yeah, I know. We do good right in this area. Yeah, yeah.

Well, there's a big river here, so that's why.

But I don't think there's going to be any lumber industry. If things get bad, there's not going to be any fuel to to make lumber with. You're going to be making earthhouses, solidhouses. You're going to be making log cabins again. I can't fathom it ever getting that bad.

So you stockpile ammo?

Yeah. In how to make ammo, it should be a reload component. Primers are tough. You couldn't get primers for a long time.

What calibers do you reload?

All the ones that are expensive to buy, like 38 Special, 357.

45 45, 70.

45, 70, definitely. I like 6.5 Cree more. It's a new caliber. It's a nice soft shooting, versatile. 308 is the Swiss Army knife of all. And 30-8, 30-8, 30-8, 30-8, 30-8, 30-8, 30-8, 30-8, 30-8, 30-8, 30-8, 30-8, 30-30 is good.

Yeah.

Stay away from oddball calibers that are going to be hard to get.

What?

Oh, I don't know. All these new ones that come out, 6.8 PRC and all. Unless you reload, how much amour are you going to need to feed your family? If you've got 10 boxes of shells for your 30-year-old sick, you're going to feed the family for the rest of your existence.

But it sounds like I asked you why you stockpile amour, and you mentioned the exodus from New York City.

Right. Yeah. I think that that's not that I would be able to stop. I mean, I'm 52 years old and pretty good working, physical shape, but I'm certainly not an athlete by any means. I think 10 good strong guys from New York City could probably overtake me with all the ammo that I have. You think so? Yeah. I think I might stop a couple of them, you know what I mean? But I'm not that physically... I'm not a combat-oriented type person. And I think they could definitely overtake a farm with numbers. Say there was 10 people on my farm, they might stay away if there was 10 people on my farm. There's only me and my wife and my parents. Yeah, no, 10 people could If it was just me, I think they probably could. Being realistic, we all like to think we're a badass. And if they had guns, then they could really overtake you easy. Yeah, for sure. Because one guy with a gun is not going to be... It's not like the movies. You're not going to take out 10 guys with guns.

No, you're probably not. No.

Especially if you've got a nine-millimetre pistol. You're not going to take out-Well, you don't believe in nine-millimetre pistols? They're good for me to anybody in this room. But you're not going to take somebody across the field with it. 308 is good.

So if you have to have one gun, what is it?

I'd have a rifle, 308 rifle. I'd have maybe a handgun for close combat, but I'd like the military take out the enemy before they get that close, which you would have to. If you let 10 people assault If the whole thing you get close enough within handgun range, you're probably not going to get all 10 of them.

No, you're done.

You're done. So you got to get them while they're out of... And I'm not any expert in this field at all. Just from watching movies and stuff, you watch the guy in the movie that takes out all... No, that's not realistic. No, you got to get those people before they... At 100 yards out. 100 yards is a long ways.

By the way, just parenthetically, the assassination attempt on Trump, 20-year-old kid, no formal training at all with firearms. He's on the roof with a 223, and a cop comes up behind him. They have some altercation. The cop backs off. The kid turns with iron sights and makes a 140-yard shot and grazes Trump's ear. How would you assess that?

That's a long shot with open sight.

That's what I'm saying. That's what I thought.

I could have done that with my 30-30. All these Navy Sears on TV. I can't hit. I mean, a 30-30, which is a lot less accurate than a 2-2-3. I mean, a nine-inch plate, a gong at 100 yards is that big. If you can hit the gong open sites and make it ding, you're pretty proud of yourself at 100 yards. I can hit a deer at 100 yards, but a deer is bigger than Trump's head. Yeah. You aim for the deer. I shot a deer last year really close with a 30-30. I aimed right where I was supposed to aim, and I hit him way in the back, broke his... Killed him dead, but I was a foot and a half off from where I was aiming. So a deer is a big target.

So if you're lying on the roof of a building and all of a sudden a cop comes up, an armed police officer comes up, and you somehow force him back, your adrenaline is pumping like never before in your life. And then you turn and reset the shot at 140 yards with iron sights, and you hit the man in the ear. That's pretty good. That's ridiculous, right? Yeah.

If he had a scope, then that guy had a scope, Trump would be dead right now. If If the scope was sighted in.

If it was sighted in, but also- 130 yards, they got all these guys will come on TV.

Oh, that's an easy shot. Oh, it is.

That's a boot camp shot. Really okay. It is. The kid never was in boot camp. Right. Yeah.

For the When you deer hunt, you never... Well, in Maine, we don't shoot anything over 100 yards.

There is no 100 yards.

Yeah, they're on a logging road or something. You get to make a hail Mary shot once in a while when you see a deer a long ways away. I shot a deer at a deer once. It was 250 yards away. I hit it and wounded it, so I felt bad. I'm like, I'm not going to do that again.

Did you find him?

No, I never did. Got a little bit of blood. Actually, there's quite a bit of blood at first, and it blood dried up really fast, and I tracked it, and I found it's bed. It was a snow. I went out 10:00 at night to find it, and it went down a big gully, up another big gully, down another, down and up, going right straight uphill. And I found a bed. It was bedded in the snow, and there was a little spot of blood, about the size of a quarter. So So I think he was probably okay. I think I grazed him. Yeah. Like, Trump got a lot of blood when Trump got hit. There was quite a bit of blood. Yeah, for sure. He got grazed.

So you think good. Well, I'm glad to hear you say that. I mean, all these experts on TV.

Yeah. I can easily... I can shoot I couldn't shoot. I'd shoot a deer at 250 yards with my- 6.5 Creedmore. 6.5 Creedmore, 308, 36. I could easily cite. I don't cite my guns in for that range because I don't hunt that range. So they're cited in for 100 yards. Now, whatever the... I'll just make these numbers up. But a 308 between 100 and, say, 300 yards, it's like 18 inches or something like that. It's quite a drop. So you really want to... Unless you've got the scope with the little slash marks in it for different ranges. If you're into that stuff, that's fine. I'm sure you can do those shots, but most hunters don't do those shots. It takes a little bit of the sporting aspect out of hunting. For me, it does. But then again, there's a sporting aspect of, Holy smokes, I'm going a really good shot, and I shot a deer at 600 yards. Right. So that's the sporting aspect of that. You know what I mean? You can be a sport by sneaking up to within 50 yards of the animal. You can be a sport by being a really good shot and shooting it.

So that's just a personal preference.

Is 223 flat out to 140?

Yeah, pretty flat. Yeah. Okay. It's pretty flat. It's a light bullet. It does a lot of damage. Oh, I know it does. It's a zinger bullet. Ask anybody that's in the military, they'll tell you that they do a lot of damage. Yeah. They claim it like a... It's a solid... I don't know what he had for bullets. They call the... Whenever there's a mass shooting, they say he had special bullets, exploding bullets. All it is, is he had like soft point bullets that you use for deer hunting. Yeah. Which in a civilian situation, it does more damage to the deer because it mushrooms when it grows in and it tears apart more tissue. But it doesn't penetrate. Like a ball, it penetrates a lot better. It'll go through a shirt or a leather jacket a lot better. They claimed on the ball, like a 223, when it goes in there, it's going so fast, it turns sideways. It tumbles. I wouldn't want to get it with any bullet. I agree with that. People spend too much time on what bullet to use and just make sure you're using the bullet that hits where you're aiming.

If you got your gun sighted in for-Are they advertised that way in the gun shop, this bullet will hit what it's aimed at? Yeah, no. Most people don't get overly fussy with accuracy, you know what I mean? Which they shouldn't. That shouldn't be your... You should just be happy with what if you're shooting something at 25 feet and you can hit it at 25 feet. If you can hit a person at 25 feet with your little nine millimeter, you're not going to get any better than that. You're not going to hit a golf ball at 50 yards with a nine millimeter. No.

I mean, I do, but that's an extraordinary skill. You can.

If you practice, practice, and practice. I can With a pistol resting, you've shot with me before. We've hit little targets at 50 yards, two out of six times. But you know that time you miss, you're still pretty close to it. If you're hitting it two out of six times, the other four times, you're probably within a kill range of a person. Of course you are. So, yeah, people get too carried up. But, yeah, back to the 130-yard shot thing. Holy smokes. That's a long shot for most hunters. I don't know about nowadays, although you watch all the hunting shows and they're shooting the guns, and the feeder comes on, the deer comes out. You hear the feeder in the hunting show.

Then they leave the deer overnight.

Yeah, then they leave the deer overnight and go. So, yeah, they do make long shots.

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What's the mindset you were talking about? You said when I said, what's successful prepping look like, you said it's changing your mind.

Yeah, your mindset's the whole getting your family ready for... I don't want to offend anybody doing this. Go ahead. I don't want to offend... I don't know. I consider myself a rich person. I mean, I got everything I want in life, but I don't want to offend people that say people that depend on Like the person that goes into a house or something and the door doesn't open correctly and they call somebody to fix it instead of just lifting up on the door a little bit and closing it. You know what I mean? They, oh, my God, the door doesn't work. The door is broken. I just lift up on it a little bit. The house moves a little bit. It only does that in August. Exactly. They just got to be ready for a world where everything's not taken care of for them. There's no door dash. There's no going to the store and getting your stuff already made because there is no store. There is no gas to get to the store. I really don't think it's ever going to get to that point in my life. I hope it doesn't. I mean, I don't want that.

I mean, we live in a beautiful world. We're very relaxed. Every earning and making money is the easiest part of life. I mean, that's the simple part. That's all the other little bullshit that comes along with it that makes it hard. But, yeah, you got get the mindset of, okay, if things get bad, okay, I'm going to have to probably abandon your house in Washington, DC. I don't know if you're going to get any money for it, if there is any money. What is money? It's just a bunch of stuff on computers. As far as I'm concerned, it doesn't mean anything. So, okay, you're going to have to abandon my house in DC. Might as well leave your car in DC or hope you got enough gas to get to Maine in your car and hope it's not a big funnel. Like I said, Maine is probably a pretty good place. Not too many people are going to go to Maine when it gets that bad. They're going to go to Florida or South Carolina or somewhere. For sure. For sure. They're not going to go to Maine. So we're probably pretty safe. Look at it that way.

I take, look back at the Really a part of the conversation. No, we're probably pretty safe up here.

Well, that's the hope. Bad weather keeps bad people out.

But you got to get that mindset of, okay, we're just going to have to live. Maybe practice it a little bit. Maybe instead of going on vacation to some resort in the Caribbean or the French Riviera or something, take your family to... The woods? To Subumic and stay there for two weeks in a tent and just have fun. Don't have them do fire drills or just go and shoot some tin cans with the 22 and make a game out of it. Everybody will talk, Well, I don't want to live in a world. If it gets like that, that will be awful. No, it's not going to be awful. You're going to survive. It's happened many many times in history, right? I mean, many cultures have been through that type of-Well, so you're 52.

I remember this area 50 years ago, and people lived that way much closer to that, even then, not that long ago, really. Did your mom grow up in a house with running water?

No, I don't think that the farm that they grew up in here didn't have running water. When they moved to Bethel, I don't think they got it shortly, but I think they I had an outhouse. I know that. I know they didn't have electricity. We had a bad well when I was a kid, which didn't faz anybody a bit. Our well would go dry in the summertime. I remember that. And wells were expensive, $5,000 to get a well drilled back then, probably $20,000 now. So we just filled up five gallon buckets, and that's how we flushed it. I took showers at my grandmother's house in the summer when it was dry, not all year. So it wasn't a maybe Maybe shut the water, maybe cut the power off to your house for a week when your family, just to see how it... Just not as a punishment or to be mean or anything like that. Hey, let's make some fun out of this. Let's cook our food outside. You don't have to go kill a deer or anything like that, but buy a leg of lamb at the store. And let's just cook this on the fire outside.

We're going to shut the electricity off for a week. We'll read some books or maybe shut your phone off. I don't know if the phones will go bad when all the bad things happen. Who knows what's going to? We don't know what's going to. It could be a, what do they call the bomb when it wipes out all the electrical...

Like the neutron bomb?

Yeah, it lets all the electrical waves in the... You know what I'm talking about.

Oh, the EMP attack.

Yeah, EMP. Yeah. That's probably would just really freak people out. Take a kid's cell phone away when he tries to go to school. See how they act. They don't like that very much. They don't? No. It's in the paper all the time. They're trying to Schools have policies that the kids aren't supposed to have the cell phone in school, which is obvious. Why should a kid have a cell phone in school? The schools can't take the cell phones away from the kids. They're like, it's not going well for them.

Really? His kids are so addicted to it.

Yeah. The parents are like, no, my kid has to have the cell phone. So now they're making the kid try to get the kid to keep the thing in the locker during class. So in between class, they just go to their locker and get out the cell phone. Who can afford it? Whose kid can afford a cell phone? That's what I'm saying. You know what I mean? At that. And they're talking about, and this is the news, I don't have kids, so I don't know. Maybe it's a different world we live in, and I'm not up to date on that. But why does a eighth grader have a cell phone?

Because they're only $1,000.

Who can afford a cell phone for an eighth grader working? Or who wants to? Who would want to waste their money? Why does the eighth grader need us? The school gives them computers. They all have a laptop. The politicians did that. So every kid has a laptop. Then the kid's parents were like selling, wanting the laptop to buy drugs. That was funny on that.

You like that?

It was pretty cool because we knew it was going to happen, right? So- Yeah, get your family ready. I mean to interrupt you, but just to finish that other thing is get your family ready. Just have them and don't make a work thing out. Don't make doing firewood a chore or something. You can't have fun today because we have to do firewood. We're going to have fun today and do firewood. Play some music while they're stacking the wood. You get six of your family members together to do the firewood. It goes pretty fast.

Did you do firewood as a kid? Oh, yeah.

I I love cutting wood. I love firewood. I hate painting, but there are certain times when I don't mind painting if I just want to forget about something. Simple little chores like that are so weed-whacking. The best. Change Chainsawring, just going through the woods and cutting up a bunch of dead trees with a chainsaw for no reason.

I used to go after tapings if I was feeling tense to go out in the woods and cut, as you know. But then I put that ethanol gas in my chainsaw. Then you got the electric chainsaw. I got the electric chain. Do you remember that?

That was fun, though.

I mean, it was fine. The electric chain, so it was fine. Good for about an hour. It's good for about an hour. It's exactly right.

No, so make a game out of things. Don't... You know, buy your kid a dirt bike. That's fine. But don't... I had dirt bikes and snowmobiles when I was a kid, but I remember my... It was around my grandfather a lot because he lived right next door and he was retired. So I was around him a lot. And he'd be like, No, we don't have any... That's enough gas for today. And I was fine with it. I was like, Okay, I get to ride it for a couple of hours. But gas was pretty expensive when I was a kid. Early '80s. Wasn't cheap. I think it was like a buck 70. One time there, it was like a A buck, 70 a gallon or something like that.

Maybe it dropped at the end of the '80s.

Yeah, at the end of the '80s, it went back down to a buck a gallon. Yeah. But my grandfather, he filling up to have somebody fill up a five-gallon can for me to ride a snowmobile around in a field was a big deal. I mean, it was a luxury for me as a kid, and I appreciated it. I'd say, Can I have two gallons of gas today? Yeah, okay. You helped with the firewood. You're going to have some gas.

Did you help with your grandparents firewood also?

Yeah, he burned a lot. He had a big farm house. He split. He did his wood by hand. Really? Yeah, he cut it with a chainsaw, but he would line them all up, split them by hand, line them up on the road. He had a whole line of fire, would split it by hand. Then he had a shoot that went down into a cellar. We'd all get together and throw it in the cellar.

How much did he burn in the winter?

I'd say about 10 gourd. He had a big farmhouse. Then when he got older, they put a oil furnace in because he was in his 80s, and it was too much for him to do the firewood.

Do you notice a difference between wood heat and oil heat?

Oh, yeah, definitely. It's not. Oil heat's fast, faster, and you come into your house. But if you come home from a day of being out just soaked to the bone, say you're doing carpentry all day in the cold, and your hands are just frozen, and your feet are wet, and you're just cold, stinging cold, and you just stand in front of that wood stove, and it almost burns as you're warm. You almost have to step away from it. It's like, okay, too hot, too fast. Like jumping in a hot tub when you're cold, how it burns. It's just... But it heat you. It will warm your core up. Now, standing in front of a register, a radiator in the hallway, you don't... A forced air vent. Yeah, a Forced air. Forced air is actually better than a register, I think. Then a forced air vent is actually warm air blown on you. That feels pretty good. I like forced air better than the radiant heat myself.

Really? Yeah.

Because the radiant heat, it's just there, but it's not hot. It's just like a constant. If you were frozen and you were laying on next to a radiator or a radiant heat system, it would take a long time to warm up. But a forced air one is blowing warm air on you. It seems to just warm you up a little bit faster.

Do you think any of the people who run our country could answer any of the questions I've asked you? I don't know.

They put the people that... Well, you talk about it all the time.

The most retarded people in charge.

Yeah, they could put the guy that can't do eighth grade math in charge of the energy grid. And then, okay, maybe he's a good leader, right? I want to bug it. We'll get back to that. But he's a good leader, right? Okay. So he can't do eighth grade math, but he's a good organizer. He's a good leader. He's going to hire a bunch of engineers, guys who went to MIT and good common sense people. No, he doesn't hire the... He doesn't even hire those people. Who does he hire? He just hires more people just like him, just more like minded people like him that have the same... I'll just make these numbers. I tried to do some of this research right before I got here. Have you ever looked up on the internet, how much electricity a windmill produces or how much electricity a ski lift uses? No. Don't trust everything you read on the Internet. Very vague answers in a lot of that stuff. Really? Yeah. You think it'd be cut and dry. Of course. A windmill puts out so many kilowatts and a chair lift uses this many. Well, and they just go around in a circle.

It depends on how long the chair lift is and how many chairs. Well, obviously it depends on that. How about the average chair lift? Yeah, the average chairlift.

How about the average windmill in an average year? Right. Yeah. You can get those specs on your truck. They'll tell you exactly how many horsepower in certain circumstances.

But then look up how much it costs to charge your cyber truck. And it's like, well, it depends on where you live, which it does depend on where you live and the electricity rates. It might be 18 cents a kilowatt hour here. It might be 23 cents here. But you could say, okay, it costs 50 bucks to charge you. They don't give that. They just lead you around in a circle because they're trying to push all this stuff on you. I read somewhere that the... I don't believe everything I read, especially on that because the wackos that are trying to push all this stuff on you are really, really leading you down the wrong path. And the wackos that are trying to disprove them are really, really pulling you off the other path. Like, oh, the wind never blows.

The wind never blows.

But I looked up a thing for how much energy it took to run the New York subway, because I know trains use a lot of power. And I did all the math of the kilowatt-hours and how much it was just getting I'm not an engineer, and it was very misleading the information that the solar panel companies are putting out. And then I read somewhere, I read this article, and the guy said, Yeah, the size of Arizona, solar panels, just to run the New York subway, not the city. To start a subway car, just to get the subway car rolling with 10 units hooked to the motor, to the engine, just to get it rolling, not to keep it going, just to get it rolling, uses power 1,300 average homes for a year.

No way.

Yeah, because it takes a lot of power to get electricity going. Yes. Like the local sawmill in the local ski area have to coordinate with, while they used to, probably not now, but they The mills in the areas have to coordinate with the power grid of when they're going to start their shifts. If they're running shifts and the machines aren't running because you can't turn on that sawmill and turn on all the chairlifts at the same time. It uses that much energy to get it going.

So sawmill is electric?

Yeah. Yeah, the big ones, like the big, big sawmills, the huge ones.

Why?

Well, that's what runs the blade on the-Yeah, but why not diesel or gas? It's just smoother motor. I mean, less vibration. And you don't want that big diesel motor humming next to your head all day. It might be electric. A lot of sawmills will have their own power plant. They'll have two big diesel generators out back running that run the electric motors. Like an asphalt plant has a big diesel motor. The asphalt plant is all electric, but we had a diesel motor sitting there. Power, like a train. You see the black smoke rolling out of the train going down the tracks. It's an electric motor. It's just a diesel generator powering the electric motor.

So if we go to electric vehicles and AI is running them.

In 2030, Vermont has to be 100% electric. They've passed the law already.

What does that mean?

I don't know. Well, the sale of electric-Is that super?

So you live very Very dangerously close to Vermont? Yeah. Do you ever go over there?

Yeah, we used to go to Vermont quite often. My parents had a monument gravestone business, and that's where we got our stone. So I've been to Vermont a lot, back and forth. Yeah. Yeah, it's like Maine. If you drive down across Route Two to Vermont, it's the same. A little more mountainous over there through Mount Washington, but for the most part, it's the same.

But not everyone in... I mean, a lot of normal people in Vermont. Yeah, I know.

A lot of rednecks over there and regular people.

So they're all going to have to go electric, like electric chainsaw?

When they pass one of those bills, I mean, this might be one of those questions that nobody knows the answer to. When they pass one of those bills, like California passed a bill all electric by 2035, what does that mean? Does anybody actually know does that mean that they're really not going to sell any gasoline vehicles in California after 2035? Can they change that?

A lot of electric motors are powered by diesel Generators. Right.

Ski areas. A lot of ski lifts have the diesel motor sitting right there on the chair lift itself. You'll see a lot of ski areas have the diesel motor that powers the electric, or it's a diesel. Some are just direct drive diesel.

So I'm starting to think that reality is not going to catch up to these laws.

Yeah, I don't know. Unless they come up with some battery, like the cyber truck that we're testing right now. I went 140 miles yesterday, and I I was at about 50 %. That's fine for me. I very rarely drive 200 miles a day. But if I had to all of a sudden go somewhere at the end of the day, like, holy shit, I got to drive. There's a family emergency.

I'm out of beer.

I'm out of beer. There's a family emergency in New York City or South Carolina, and I got to go somewhere real fast and hop in my car and drive. Oh, shit. My car is only half full now. I got to wait 20 minutes for it to charge or I have to go buy a super. When I went to get that cement yesterday, I was like, well, maybe I might have to charge this getting that cement because I didn't know. I've never been on a long trip with it. So I'm looking up supercharging stations on the way to the cement place. No, there isn't any. There's slow charging stations that take eight hours.

It's just a 120 volt.

Well, it's probably a 220 plug. Yeah, I charge it at my house with 220. But yeah, the electric, the power grid and the diesel and a nuclear would be Great. Hydro dams would be Canada. Doesn't Canada get all this power from hydro?

Like all of it, right? They own the Hydro dams in Maine, Brooklyn.

Right. So why? Obviously, they've got the methods to make Hydro dams to where the pipe, they tap into the bottom of the river with a pipe. They do it all over the place, and the pipe runs underneath the ground to the turbine, pops out downriver. So there's no dam. You're not losing any. The fish is still getting through. That little section of river might be a little bit, you know what I mean? It's losing that flow of water, but it's still popping out.

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Yeah, there's all kinds of technology.

You're just pulling energy off of something that's constantly producing.

Yeah, you're not building a dam. Right. So you go to a place where the river is always deep and wide and deep, a flat spot in the river. And you just tap into the... And they're doing that. There's technology for that. It's not hurting. Why are they so against that? Because because they're not pushing their solar panels and their windmills that they've got invested in. You read about all these politicians that got rich off the... And people don't like reading that. Six-pack Joe going to the store, reading the paper that so-and-so politician is All of a sudden got rich off windmills. He's not dumb. He can figure out what's going on. The Windmill Project in Rhode Island, according to the... I watch a lot of YouTube. It's good. I mean, it's almost a default. Most people I know it's their default TV now. It's YouTube. The Windmill Project in Rhode Island, I don't know the name of the project, but it's in the news all the time.

Offshore windmills.

Yeah, offshore windmills in the ocean. So the Kennedy type people don't want it because it's in their backyard. And the Obama's people that live in Nantucket and Rhode Island and all those fancy places don't want it. They want to put them up in Rangely, Maine because We're not going to... We don't care up here. What do we care?

About natural beauty, like living a decent life.

But that windmill is huge, and it provides one 700th. The guy, he wrote it out on a piece of paper and did the math of the kilowatt-hours. He was smarter than I was. One seven-hundredth of the electricity that it takes to power, not just the area that it's going to power, but Rhode Island, which is the size of that coffee cup. So the Windmill project with the windblowing, a seven-hundredth of what Rhode Island uses for power. And they've shut down either one or two big power plants in Rhode Island.

And they wrecked a commercial fishery.

And they wrecked a commercial fishery, too. And the windmills were already falling apart in the ocean. One came apart. I don't know where it was. It was on the news. I just laughed and I walked by the TV because the windmill was all... The blade was sticking down in the ocean. And the environmentalist people were worried that the material that the blade was made out of was going to poison the fish. So who said that it's okay to... Well, I guess windmills would be our biggest thing here. Solar panels are pretty... There's a few solar farms around, but they're small. Small. Yeah. Maybe 10 acres or something. So they're not too offensive yet. They're not... Well, I don't know. When you get off the turnpike in gray, that one's offensive when I see that one. It used to be cows in that field. Now there's windmills. I mean, now there's Now there's solar panels. But the windmill, who's to dynamite the top of a mountain? You got to build a road up there to get the windmill projects to use. My neighbor does them. And you got to blast the top of a mountain range.

Blast it. Just to flatten off a spot to put these windmills and build a road to it and maintain the road to it. And the erosion from maintaining the road every... It's like cash for clunkers when they wanted in... What was that? Early 2000s, trade in your- Obama, yeah. Yeah, trade Trade in your Ford Bronco for a Toyota Tacoma, and you got $4,000 for your Ford Bronco. Well, sounds great. Yeah, you're driving something that gets 25 miles a gallon versus something that gets 15 miles to the gallon. But the natural resources that it took to build that better gas mileage car versus keeping that Ford Bronco on the road and not mining all that new steel and and all the resources that it takes to build that car. They didn't really factor that into the point. Okay, this guy's only driving 5,000 miles a year in his '96 Bronco that gets 10 miles to the gallon. So you give him $4,000 of our money to buy a Toyota Tacoma that gets better gas mileage. They're all going to be off the road in 10 years, rusted out anyway. But maybe he's maintaining that Bronco. Maybe it's not rusted or he just Well, anything.

It doesn't matter. But why is that better to just junk that and get rid of it and buy the new car? Someone's getting rich from it. And that was a whole scam on the Cash for Clunkers. I don't know if you have ever reported on that, but I don't remember the particulars of it, but it was a scam. I mean, they got rich on it.

But it's all a scam, and nothing's a bigger scam than wind power.

Yeah, that's huge. You read those articles, and they're not on the everyday news. But there's been articles on the local papers about the scamming.

Have you ever shot one with a three?

I'd love to shoot. They were going to put them behind my house on my mountain. That was a big thing. Oh, yeah. My wife was going to the meetings, and my neighbor had the signs up, no windmills, and the bat There was a bat, species of bat up there that was rare or a breeding ground for bat breeding grounds. And that was apparently why they didn't do it and the money for them. I think when Trump got in, didn't a lot of that stuff dry up?

I don't know. Probably not.

I don't know. But something happened politically, but it was a bat thing that was holding them back. And they still have 100-year... I don't know if it's a lease or an agreement that they could still go up there and do it.

If they put those windmills in, what caliber rifle would have stopped them, do you think?

I don't know. I think you got to hit them right in the middle. I don't think a bullet hole through the tip of the wing is going to... It's like shooting an airplane with a bullet in the wing. It's really not going to stop the plane. You I got to hit the guts of it. You really get it. And this is going to... I'm usually right about these things. Okay, in 50 years, when these windmills, or probably 30 years, when these windmills are abandoned and falling apart, they're just... Nobody's taking care of them anymore. The whole industry is bankrupt. They're falling over on the side of the mountain. They're just wasted. People are going to go there, and there's going to be no frigging wire going to the thing to start with. It's that much of a scam. There's not even a wire going to That's my prediction.

So you think we're going to discover this whole thing as bullshit? They're not actually producing power.

Yeah, they're not even hooked up. There's nothing on the inside. It's just big blades. There's no generator on the inside or anything. I'm that much of a weirdo that I think.

I don't think that's weird at all. I don't think it's weird at all. This 20-year-old kid with no training just shot Trump at 140 yards with a 223.

Right.

Anything is possible.

That's for sure, yeah.

Have you ever been up and poked around the windmills?

I've never been Not those big ones. I mean, I've been up towers and stuff. I've climbed towers before, but I've never been up a windmill tower. No, I don't like getting there. I don't know. What do you mean? I don't know. They're not scenic. I don't want to spend... I'm not going to take my vacation in the Bronx. I'm not going to go hang out next to a frigging windmill. It's basically the same thing to me. My friend has a camp. You've been there where you look out the porch and you see the 22 windmills on the mountain. I don't know. It ruins it for me. I agree. Maybe I'm just being selfish. I don't know.

No, they're being selfish, actually. They're moving them into poor areas where towns have been depopulated because of changes that they instituted to our economy. And the town can't say no because they need the money.

Right. They're buying off the people they can be bought off.

Yeah.cheap..

It's like selling the family farm to send your kid to the college type of theory, right? Is that Is it such a good idea that we're doing this? Selling our mountaintops to the windmill people for some quick cash right now? Is that the best thing for our future? Probably not.

It actually sounds like a crime.

It should be. I mean, especially when there's no vote on it. I hate to pick on rich people, but the rich people own the land, and they're selling basically... They're not really doing anything with it. They log it. We've been logging it for years. The poor people do benefit from it. The working class paper mills benefit from it. Okay, that industry is drying up from what we saw the other day. And okay, well, this is our last chance to get just a little bit more money out That land will some frigging scam deal with the government to put windmills on it. One last little push, give the little people a little something so they can build a new school or something out of the money or put a new road in or something. They're selling their soul. You always feel when you sell land. I've sold land before because I had to or I was moving or relocating or I needed the money. And it just felt so soul burning. I didn't feel good afterwards. No, you shouldn't. After I sell that land. I mean, I had to, and no regrets against it. I got a lot of land now, so I made out better.

I think I bettered myself doing it. But while I was doing it, I'm like, Man, I'm selling land that belonged to my grandfather. I really don't. I just don't feel good. Even though it wasn't much, it was only a couple of acres. I needed to pay some bills and buy some stuff. But I'm like, I just don't feel good doing this. That's right.

When those windmills break, who's going to cart them off? What happens to them?

They're big. You've seen one going down the road, the blade?

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

They take up the whole road. I don't know. The motors on the inside and the bearings, the construction company in town bought a crane Just a $4 million crane just to work on them. You need that big equipment. So you can't tell me that going around and maintaining... There's a lot of windmills in Maine now. They're everywhere. Yeah. And they still only provide supposedly 16 % of the power for Maine. Now, I don't... They say to Maine, that's another thing. When you read these things, you have to really watch what you read because the 16 % of the power for Maine is the residents. I And then another article said that that doesn't... I don't know if this is true or not, it's just what I read on the Internet, that that doesn't include industrial power. Houses use very little electricity. It doesn't take much the power of the houses in Maine. They use most of the electricity, but they use very little. But the factories and stuff, they use power. Ski areas use a shitload of power. What do you think of ski areas? I like to ski. I've always skied. I don't ski anymore.

I It's too crowded for me now. It's like waiting in line at Walmart when I go skiing. That's what I feel like I'm doing. But yeah, I don't know. It's another thing selling your soul. All right, let's, like I said, bulldoze the top of this mountain off and cut all the trees and cause a shitload of erosion just so a bunch of rich people can slide down the hill.

That seemed like a good story.

You don't see too many poor people skiing.

You don't?

No.

They don't have getto day at the ski area? No.

It's like golf courses. Golf courses are beautiful. I think once something is done, I think it's one thing. Once a wind farm is in or once a ski area is constructed, I think the damage is done and mother nature heals itself and does what it's going to do. But it's the process of it can kill a lot of fish, I'm sure. I mean, fish biologists will tell you that golf courses are the worst thing for fish. For sure. You know, golf courses. I don't play. I enjoy. I like looking at golf courses. They're beautiful, they're mowed, they look nice, they got the trees and everything. But man, you can't look at a golf course and just think, Man, who thought this was a good idea to fill in this swamp and bulldoze all this land and flatten it off and cut all the trees just so I can hit this little white ball into a hole. Who had that vision that that's what we should be doing with this land? Same thing with the ski area. Looking at the beautiful mountain and you get this ski lift going off the site. Who thought, oh, Jesus, what a great place for a ski area?

I guess it's your personal preference. If you really like skiing, I don't know. But not me personally. I'd be like, no, don't put a ski area. Why would you want a ski area there? When you just want to hike to the top of the mountain on your snowshoes without the skier. Have the skiers shut the lift down for a while. Nothing against skiing. I love skiing. I'm a good skier. I skied my whole life. I skied in Colorado. I love skiing. So I'm not bashing ski areas, but it's almost like enough is enough. Try walk to the top of the mountain and ski down. Then you've accomplished something.

Yeah, fewer runs that way.

Yeah, but you've accomplished something. That's right. You've actually done something that day, hopping on the chairlift, riding to the top and sliding down. You haven't accomplished anything. No, that's true. You drove there in your car, you hopped on the chairlift, you rode to the top of the mountain, you slid down the other side on your skis. You didn't do anything. You got to be in good shape to ski. I mean, it's a young person sport or a person in good shape, but you don't have to be in that good shape. I can ski. I'm not in good shape. I don't know. It just seemed like the wrong thing to do. Then you see the development around any resort, whether it's a ski area or a golf course, or you can't think of any other resorts that they have. Really, that's about it, I guess. The development around them is the big thing. Look at the housing developments and the condos and another mountain bulldozed over here. So these people can look at that ski area. I want to view the ski. That's personal It's not a preference. I'm not putting those people down. Just it doesn't...

Nature-wise and environmentally, environmentally, it certainly doesn't sound like a good idea. I don't think you need much environmental education to figure out that it's not good.

Yeah.

I think eighth grade Earth science would tell you that that's not a good thing to do. Paving a road to the top of the mountain so you can have views. But it's been like that in Europe for a long time. There's a lot of that in Europe. Ski areas and development. Oh, yeah. It's been fine over there. Mother nature does heal itself around those things. It's probably not long term that big a deal for the environment. I don't know. It just seems like a short term thing to If we have a massive economic downturn, I mean, a lot of this stuff will heal itself, as you said.

Anyway.

Yeah, I think, if those houses get abandoned, you've seen abandoned towns. I looked up the post that I was stationed at in Germany, and it was abandoned. I don't know what they use it for now, but basically abandoned. They were like stucco German stucco type buildings like you see in Germany. It was like gone, like the Earth had already swallowed up all those buildings. Really? Yeah. It was like everything's falling down. The grass is growing, trees growing up through everything. Just like when you find an old logging camp in the woods, you'll find the stove and the-Yeah, totally. All the stuff in the tree growing up through everything.

Find a stone wall in a cellar hole.

Yeah, a stone wall in a cellar hole with a 200-year-old tree in the middle of it. Yeah, exactly. So I think Mother Nature will recover. It's just an esthetic thing for me, I would say. I don't like the washout So the erosion. I don't like building. You shouldn't be building roads up mountains anyway. Sometimes you have to to get to the next town or economic reasons. But yeah, just for recreation, build a road up the side of a mountain that causes a shitload of erosion. No, that's not a good idea. I did that work, too. I did that for years. I wouldn't have what I have right now if it wasn't for the ski area. I worked up there for doing landscaping and carpentry and stuff for years, excavation. So I I feel bad bashing it. But it'd be like if you work for a company that installed windmills and you made a lot of money doing it, say you were a truck driver for the company that put in windmills. I mean, you can still hate windmills, right? And still enjoy your job.

I don't know. I can't relate. I mean, it's not like I worked for media companies that lied to the population of the country I was born in, justified pointless wars through fear.

But you still love those media companies. Oh, I love them.

I don't judge at all.

Right. So we all get stuck in the hypocrisy of nobody's above hypocrisy. That's for sure. That's for sure. We all get stuck. But then you see the people that go skiing with the Subaru and the Save the Planet Earth sticker, but they're heading up to go skiing. Now, that bothers me. That's blatant hypocrisy there. And they'll say, Oh, there's solar panels on the side of the on the chairlift. So the chairlift's solar power. They should know better than that. The solar panel on the building going into the chairlift, it might power the guy's coffee pot at best. They should know better than that. It's our fault for it. It's not It's not those people have very good intentions. I call them Moonbats. All the Moonbat people, you know who I'm talking about? I do. But I'm not putting them down. They have the best intentions in the world. They really honestly I think that what they're doing is great. I think they do feel deep down inside because those people aren't getting rich off it. It's the politicians. It's the politicians that are getting rich off it. But those people are just blind and naive, and they really do believe that what they're fighting for is true.

It's not their fault that they're in charge now. You look at all the Moonbats, you got a woman running for President right now that is not qualified to teach finger painting for kindergarten kids. It's your fault and my fault that she's in charge. It's his fault that she's in charge. It's not the rest of the Moonbats people in charge. We let that happen. We're the responsible adults in charge of all this stuff. We let that happen. We let those people take over. We tried our best to stop it, but we didn't do good enough. Okay, now they're teaching I don't have kids, so I probably shouldn't say this, but they're teaching whatever, a sophomore in high school to get gender surgery. How did that happen? Where did we take our eye off the ball long enough? How did we take our eye off the ball long enough to let Camela... What's her? Kamala? Carmela. You know how to say it. I don't know.

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How did we screw up? You fought. You fought your best. You were on the news every night. I did my best by badmouthing her, and everybody at the chainsaw shop did their best, but she still won.

Yeah.

How did she win? Because we didn't try hard enough. We didn't fight hard enough. We tried at January sixth. That was like, okay, that was it.

I called you that That afternoon, I'm like, freaking, finally. I was getting my hair cut. I'll never forget it. Maybe you called me and you're like, You're watching this? It's the greatest fucking thing I've ever seen. I love it. They're sitting in her chair. You were the only one who was excited about that. I was ashamed that I wasn't excited about it because you're absolutely right. It's the people's house. Are you joking? The crime is going into a building that you own? That's not a crime.

You guys have totally fucked up life as we know it in this country, a nice country to live in. And you've twisted it all sideways and you've got it all fucked up. And wow. We got to take... We You got to put the adults back in charge. Okay, you guys have had your fun. We got plenty of jobs for you to do. You're still going to be important. You're still going to have a purpose. You can be a community organizer. You can do something like that. But you don't want to give... I don't even know if they're qualified for that because that's how they... What do you do with those people that want to let 14-year-old kids get sex changes? What can you do with that person? What would I'm not religious at all, but that's definitely the mark of the devil or whatever they call it.

What would you do with them?

I don't know.

I mean, you've supervised a lot.

There's a lot of them, and there's a lot of people giving into it. People that you would never suspect giving into that. Well, it's not that bad. So what the Drag Queen story hour in kindergarten? What does a kindergarten kid know? No, it's pretty bad. I don't care if a transgender person reads a story to my kid. They can babysit my kid. I care. If they're transgender, that's fine. But the way that they act with the boobs hanging out and the sexualized dancing and all that. No, I don't care what gender you are. It's got nothing to do with transgender. You don't act that way around kids. I don't go around. I'm not going to go have a... It's a doggy-style society, people. We're going to have a parade. All the people that like to do it doggy style, we're just going to have a parade. That'd be most people. We're not going to do that. You don't You don't do a transgender sexual parade.

I've always thought that that would be the trigger for violence because someone did that shit to my kids. I shoot them without thinking about it.

I think it's going to come to that.

I think it's pretty- That's so ridiculous. If someone... That's a form of sexual abuse on my kids. It is. That's the one thing you can allow.

You get beat up in the old days for doing that.

At very least beaten up. I'm utterly opposed to violence, as I often say, and you know me well, you know that I actually am opposed to violence. I'm not just saying I hate these wars. I hate all this shit.

But if there's one excuse for violence, it's sexually abusing my children, or I'm not a good dad if I'm allowing that.

All these people are allowing it. It's like, what's wrong with you?

For real.

What is wrong with people?

The good people are giving up. They're just saying, well, I don't know if they don't want to... I've heard people say, how can you let your kids do that Well, all the rest of the kids are doing it, and they're all talking about that. There are certain things that kids do that you scold your kid for it. But okay, all kids are going to do that. They're going to steal your Playboy magazine. They're going to look at stuff like that. That's just you punish them for it. But I think that they want to fit in. I think there might be so many of those type of people now that people don't want to lose their family members. Well, that is true. They don't want to come disconnected because they love their family. So like, okay, there's five people in the family that think the way I do, so-called normal thinking. And then the rest of them think it's okay to get gender surgery at 14 years old, you're outnumbered in your family. I think the college has brainwashed those. Do you think it comes from colleges? I think it does.

I don't know. When you were at Harvard, was it crazy?

I went to college for a year. For what? I went to study forestry. I didn't do too good. I was young.

Forestry?

Forestry, yeah. I mean, I did good in school. I was fine. I just didn't like going to college. I didn't, I don't know. I didn't fit in. I drank back then, partying young, that stuff. So, didn't... And I was working, too. I enjoyed working. When I went to college, I worked for the logging company in town, and I enjoyed it. I drove trucks, I drove skidders, and I liked it. I like getting up at 5:00 in the morning and going to go on to work. I really did. I enjoyed it. It still does. It brings pleasure to me. I really enjoyed it. Yeah. So I had a lady, was she an English teacher, I believe? And I did a... I was messing with her, but I... Sociology. And I did a report on John Wayne or John Wayne movies. We had to be real fancy about, but I use John Wayne movies as my base. And I said, how great, John Wayne? Well, everybody loves John Wayne. Who doesn't like John Wayne? In front of the class, she did a thing on how John Wayne was a racist. And I'm looking at her and I'm like, what?

I don't even know what you're... I was 25 years old. I had been around a little bit, lived in the service and stuff. I was already out of the army. And I'm like, I don't know what you're talking about, lady. She goes, oh, yeah, it's It's proven. And then she gives me all the stuff that probably came from the '70s or '60s, all this data about how those movies in Hollywood was racist in the old days. I'm like, I don't know. I've lived with people of all color. I never got the idea that John Wayne was a racist or was racist or watching a John Wayne movie was racist. I used to had people of color, my roommates in the service and we would sit around and watch John Wayne movies. Nobody had- They didn't walk out in outreach. They didn't walk out in outrage. So I don't know what those. So then I was like, okay, this is what's going on here. And she wanted me to print all my stuff on. I worked at the time. She wanted me to... I was probably just being a smart ass for this because I can be a smart ass sometimes.

She wanted me to print all the stuff. Computers were just coming out like, I don't know, a word processor type thing. So you had to put everything on a disk, and that's how she wanted you to hand in your I'm sure she was trying to teach you how to learn computers, too. That was probably part of the deal. I didn't have a computer, and I had to work a lot. I didn't have time to stay at school and use the computer. I would just type the stuff out at night, and I didn't own a computer. So she says, we have to turn it on the disk. I said, I'd love to. I said, I don't have a computer. I don't have time. She goes, well, there's plenty of computers in the library. I said, I don't have time to stay and do that. When I leave here, I go to work, and then I do my stuff at night. I I went to the dean, or wasn't the dean, might have been the dean. It was a small college anyway. I explained it to him and he goes, well, yeah. I said, I'm paying you guys.

You guys work for me. You're my employee. The dean was pretty good about that, but that woman was mad. That teacher was mad. No, you guys work for me. I'm paying. When you go to college, it's just like you're paying that professor to mow you a lawn. That professor works for you. Of course. You don't work for them. And the dean said, It's okay. Yeah, he can hand his stuff. He took my side because I was working and I was paying tuition. It was a GI bill, but I still wrote the check and the check came to me. And that woman did not see it that way.

The job is this racist lady.

She did not see the fact that she works for me. She did not get that Correlation, I guess.

Tell her to whip up some dinner and...

Pressure wash the deck. Change the oil and rotate the tires on my truck.

Patrick Feaney, thank you.

Thank you, sir. It was a pleasure. It was.

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