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It's fun being a parent, isn't it?

It can be hard. What was that?

Well, I want to just tell my daughter, El, I love you. I wish I was the father in my 20s that you needed and Clearly, I wasn't. And I hope you can forgive me for my shortcomings. I love you completely. I love you entirely. And I just want you to be well and happy with you and your beautiful baby, lucky. And I wish you the best. I feel terrible. And I just want you to know that I don't take anything you say personally. I love you. And I feel that God has gifted this moment and gifted me to be able to just tell I love you and I accept you. I apologize for any of my shortcomings that I have. I wish for you that they heal and be well and that you have everything that you want, including the dad that you want from me to be. I'm here. I'm here for you. I love you. Whenever you need me, I'll be there. And anything that you said, I don't take personally. And if I could take away all your pain, I would gladly do it. And if I need to take the hit for you now, I'll do I'll do it again, gladly.

My heart is your home, and a home is a place when you go there, they have to let you in. I love you. I'm sorry that you're having to deal with this, but this is a great opportunity because we can talk about families. I mean, show me a perfect family out there, and I'll be shocked. But families, you have to ask because God, I'm a new Catholic. God God has presented this to me and I'm going to use it. And I'm going to say that this is when you have opportunities, like when you're being attacked or you feel like what the world is caving in on, like a lot of people feel now, whether it's financially, whether it's politically, people are separating, and especially with people that are dealing with addiction and families that are dealing with addiction. It's hard. It's really tough on the family, and it really is crushing. And so if we're able to discuss and talk about that and help heal people and help give them the opportunity to let them know that this is common and that there are roots you can do to heal. And for people suffering and family suffering from addiction, and unfortunately, it is bigger now than any time in my life, we need to have a path for healing.

And part of that path is not just getting clean. But I was talking to my good friend Dr. Drupinski, and he said, we also... Addiction, people have to deal with resentment. That's a really important thing. And I'm glad this has all been brought up because resentment has to be addressed and managed to help keep the person sober. For families who are dealing with addiction, that's really important. This resentment, resentful people use it as a way to justify by bad behavior and any behavior and not taking responsibility for their own actions, blaming others, and in the destructive behavior, including even using again. So it's important that we heal that, address that, so that doesn't become this destructive thing. That's part of the healing and part of really staying sober and remaining sober and getting back to a place of happiness.

So when your daughter attacks you in public, how hard is it not to you didn't make any excuses or blame her or tack back. How hard is that?

If you love somebody completely, you just... I love her, and all I want for her is to be happy and to heal from this. I really feel there's anything that I can... I apologize completely and accept responsibility for not being the parent that I am now with my new kids. She didn't get I missed a lot. As a parent, you're going to pay for everything you miss. I thought that just because I was starting my career at the time, and I thought, Well, I'm able to provide this, this school, and this, and this.

How old were you?

I was 26.

And got divorced young.

About a year later, yeah. She's got a great mom. They did a great job. Did the best job she could. But it's hard not having a fractured home from the start is not the ideal thing. So it's difficult. I get it. I really feel like, look, I'm here now, and whatever I can do for you, I'll be the father that you need me to be now. I love you. And thank God that I'm here now and that if there's something that you need for me, my heart is open. And it's okay, though. I feel like it's a good opportunity. It's It's a really beautiful thing when God presents you with something, when God says to you, here, when the enemy, when people are like, when you have attacks in your life, when they say, hand it over to God, They don't mean just hand some of it over. They mean you got to hand it over. When you do, you will have peace. You will have peace. There's nothing the world can do to you when you have God. There's nothing. They can't touch you. My most important relationship is with God. And if that's good, they can't touch me.

There's nothing. My wonderful priest talked to me about this and about like, if you got a good relationship with God, then you're set. But when you hand it over, you got to really hand it over. Okay, can you take it? I'm like, Okay, God, I need your help because you'll be tested in this world. They go like, Yeah, because I feel I'm in a good place. I said, Oh, yeah? Well, what about if they say this? I'm still okay. What if somebody in your family says this? What? They said, What? How do I know? We all have work to do. Well, yeah. We have temptations to want to get angry, to strike back. That's a real temptation for people.

What's an overwhelming temptation.

It is. But our job, What we need to do as a parent is to love and accept and be tolerant and forgive. This is the way to love. God shows us the way to love. Our job is to reflect God's love, which is everything, and tolerant and loving, and just have compassion for what people are going through, especially in your family, and to know that it's not about me, it's about the pain that they're suffering and how can we heal it. And we're seeing a lot of that, unfortunately, not just in my family. We're seeing addiction and problems all over. And it's not just about particularly with drugs. And the difference is when we were kids, if somebody had an addiction to a particular narcotic or something, unless it was heroin, there's cocaine and speed and other stuff, and crystal meth around the '80s. You had a chance to get therapy and do something. We have families now who are dealing with a different healing because they've lost their child. We have these poorest borders now. And we have this talking about for the Democrats who want to change the voting habits of whatever, remain power in every state.

It's really an ugly thing because what they're really doing is they're just bringing in death and misery because the people who are coming into the border are also being abused. It needs to be a, I'm all for immigration. It has to be legal. But What's coming in now is causing this massive wave of drugs and it's death. It's everywhere now. It's every city in America. It's 65,000 people a year. It's more than everyone who died in that 19 years of Vietnam or dying a year from this fentanyl. I was at the airport, and sometimes you meet somebody who just has so much grace that it takes your breath away. Much more than I have. Or could have. This woman came up to me, said, Hi, I really appreciate what you've been saying. I said, Oh, thank you. At the airport waiting for our bags. And I was just taking a cup of coffee waiting. And this is in Phoenix, where I live now. And we started talking a little bit, and I was flattered by that. So it's nice when people say something nice about you. And then I said, So where did you come back?

She said, Oh, Hawaii. And I said, Oh, it's beautiful. She said, Yeah, but it wasn't a happy occasion. And I said, what? She said, oh, I was spreading my 17-year-old son's ashes. I was like, what? She said he wasn't an addict. He just was a dabbler. And he didn't realize what He just thought it was cocaine. And he's gone. There's no rehab. There's no getting better. There's no education. There's no twelve-step thing. You have is just people are dead. They're gone. And this family is crushed. But this woman had such grace about her. It's like, whew. God has to carry people at the moments like that.

That's for sure. So how did you respond when you saw that you were being attacked? What was your first 24 hours?

You feel hurt, obviously, and you check within. But then as soon as you get out of me and get into, well, How can we do this? First of all, I was stunned by it. No warning at all. No. Then you got like, Well, I love you and I want you to be... I I can't get into the specifics of what she's going through now. But obviously, I wanted to be happy and well and to heal. To heal means not just doing something to make yourself feel better, but to really get to some of the issues that you need to do and to just be like, I love you. And if you take yourself out of the equation and you say, it over to God, you have to. Because if you make it about me and what this. That's right. I have an adult child now. She's going to have to figure things out. And God bless her. And she's had a tremendous success with her career. And I want her to have that peace. Yes. That peace that I've found and that love that I've had. And I'm grateful for this situation because maybe this is what it takes for her to heal and for other people to know that about this so that they can reach out and they can know that to not take it personal, but go, what can I do?

How can I love? How can I heal? What would God do here? How could I work through this? How could I use this as an introduction for her to get closer to God? So maybe there's all this potential there. But there's also the potential to realize that when you are attacked in the media by anything, is to know this isn't, you cannot take this in. And if you have, I mean, there was a beautiful thing. My My wife and I, Patricia, just the best thing that ever happened to me that God gave me was this. We never did the rosary together in bed. We never did the rosary together, ever. So we were in bed the other night before I flew out here and let's do it. We didn't even remember. No, she didn't remember exactly how to do it. I'm a new Catholic, so we're literally going over each beat and doing, Hale Mary's and then Our Fathers and then what's this beat for? I will tell you, it was beautiful. The peace that I felt after that and the whole next day was really the power of prayer. I'm praying for my daughter, and I hope that people will pray for her.

So even in the midst of that, you found peace?

Yeah, I did. Not right away. But I did find... I mean, the peace is there for you. When you accept God and have God, you hand it over to him. You got to really do it. I said, God, I know there's a purpose here. There's got to be something. And as soon as I took it out of me and my heart, my needs, my heart, my injury, and go, This cannot be what this is about. This has to be how to heal something and how to maybe bring this up for other people and other families that are dealing with similar things. Something good is going to come from it. It already has.

How did you get to this point? Describe how you got here to facing, I got to say, Probably a tougher moment than a diagnosis of illness. Having a conflict with a child is the hardest thing, I would say, for a parent, and yet you're at peace. So how did you get here?

Well, it's a long story. It's a beautiful thing where I felt close to Jesus Christ when I was a young boy, and then I stray. But the thing about Jesus is he'll only let you go so far. And all All that stuff was necessary for me to learn and come back. But he was always there in the back there. He was never left. I think through getting lost and into the world and thinking about my career and this and that and the frustrations of it and thinking too much about what other people think about you, where your position is in show business and how much money you make, where you are. Are you on the A-list? Are you off-list? Are you making movies? It's a hamster wheel. And I think the more important thing is to... And I think what our culture is suffering from now is in this social media hamster wheel we're on, and their politics. Our political parties are not helping the mental health of Americans.

So There's today's understatement.

If we could step back and find a more peaceful way to exist and to not live in fear. I stopped being fearful about... Because once you do get attacked, like when the pharmaceutical industry attacked me for what I thought was just the basic humanity is believing parents who had injured children who they knew were fine up until the point where they were given some doctor recommended drug that was absolutely supposed to be safe, and then their kid got permanently injured. I believe them. I choose to believe them, and I still believe them because they're the best witnesses to this incident that happened. And we're talking about vaccination. And to even question it was destroying your career. It's like questioning it. I thought we lived in the freest country in the world. Well, you're allowed to talk about politics and you can be... You used to be. And you can talk about things like that. You could talk about how the United States Army spend $25,000 for a toilet, which or a hammer. But if you talk about the underpinnings of power, if you talk about an industry that is the real drug cartel, we're not talking about the Mexican drug cartel.

That's just a measly $10 billion a year. If you're talking about the pharmaceutical industry, $300 billion a year, you're talking about power. You're talking about an industry. You're talking about the real drug cartel that pays for the biggest donors to not just federal legislation, legislature, the legislators, but state legislators. They not only control the medical establishment, they also control the medical boards that recommend things and that recommend what Americans are mandated to get and children are. And then when you open your eyes to it and you realize that something that was astounding to me that Robert Kennedy talks about, and he's one of the few who has the courage to talk about it. And thank you for letting him talk about this on your show. The 54% of American kids now suffer from chronic illnesses for diseases unheard of just a few short decades ago, and 12% of those neurological damage. The fact neurological damage. I'm talking about brain damage, including autism and all this other ADHD and all these things which were unheard of when we were kids. So the fact that that is not the biggest story every day in the news is the fact that the media is bought and paid for it by pharma, and it is.

I mean, it's upwards of 75, 80% of all ads in non-political years for all ads on all of television, on all radio, and all internet is drug ads. And there's only two countries that allow that, the United States and New Zealand, because people realize you can't have this because it's going to make us make people dependent and go, I want that drug. My family works in medicine, the Lappids, Filipinos, or of course, they're in nursing and doctors in New Jersey. And I talked to my cousin, Rene Lappid, who's passed away now. But I said, why is the average senior on 12 different drugs. Why is my dad on 12 drugs? He said, well, there's no database that keeps track of all these drugs. If they go to get a drug that they see on TV from one doctor and the doctor says no, they just go to another doctor and they just give it. There's so much money to be made off it that we're dealing with a sick population. That needs to be rectified. We need to get people healthy, mentally healthy, physically healthy in this country. We are not going to have a country.

We cannot afford to pay 17.5% of our GDP on health, five times more than they pay in Europe. We're not getting better results over here. So if we don't get a handle on that, forget about everything else. You forget about your Democratic, Republican, Conservate, your issues. You forget about which state has abortion rights and which state doesn't. If we don't get a handle on this, everything goes. Yes. Everything. So That's something we need to talk about and we need to address. We can't just put a band in on it.

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So what happened during... So you attempted to talk about it. Yeah. I think you're informed on the subject and you're sincere. You're not getting paid to talk about it.

I went to a place because these parents came, asked me. Because Because I was curious about... I'm a medical nerd. I'm obviously junior college dropout, but I was always fascinated by it. And my cousins were kind enough to talk to me about medicine whenever I asked questions. I was a nerd about it. When it came time for me to have a baby a dozen years ago, I wanted to know about this particular thing that was recommended. As everyone said, it was safe. I just remember being with this one director whose wife was a TV doctor, one of those TV doctors. As a director, we were going to make a movie together, and they just had a beautiful new baby. I said, Well, what shots did you give the baby? She said, None. I said, What? She said, Yeah, they're too small to absorb those toxins right now. They don't have an immune system. They have an external immune system. Their mother's breast milk. Yes. I said, Well, why do you tell other people to get it? We said, Well, that's up to them. I never I forgot that because it wasn't- That's up to them.

Because it wasn't up to them because you had to go to school. When we went to school, it was like three shots. Now, it's staggering. It's 72 different doses of 16 different vaccines before the age of six. We're wondering, why is there? People go, I can't have anything to do with it. I can't have anything to do with it. Are you nuts?

By the way, I should say for the record, I think YouTube will censor this. No, they will. They'll demonetize it just for having this conversation. I'm sorry.

You You might have to put this out there with this part cut out.

No, we'll just believe it. But it's crazy that of all the things you can say- You can't talk about this. On YouTube, you could say, Are governments illegitimate? Someone should overthrow it, or I'm in favor of transgender nuns, or you can say whatever you want, but you cannot use the V-word.

No, you can't. It's interesting, though, because they're so powerful. I remember talking to my friend, who was one of the parents' advisory group who was involved in the 1986 negotiating with the Reagan Administration for the National Childhood Vaccine Act, which Congress ruled, vaccines are unavoidably unsafe, and you could look that up. If there was going to be If you're going to mandate something, there's never been a drug is 100% safe 100% of the time for 100% of the people. Of course not. And vaccines are drugs. Either you have a choice for your own body autonomy, your own freedom of choice when there's risks, To take a risk. Or if you don't have that freedom to avoid risks, then you have tyranny.

Then you're a slave. Then you're- Someone owns your body and can make you hurt yourself.

And then somebody could shut down that same group, can shut down the world, and they did.

So what happened when you made these points, which I think any rational person, even people who disagree with you, say, Those are reasonable points. Maybe I've got evidence that shows you're wrong. Here it is. But you're not making crazy points.

We'll discuss. We're supposed to be the The idea and what happened during COVID was the idea was like, you're supposed to discuss things in a free society and debate and then take the best of those ideas. And let's see which ones are evidence-based. Exactly. Use the evidence. What happened was we were taking People like Dr. Budakaria and Peter McCullo and say, Well, this is evidence here, Dr. Corey. Well, this is evidence. Well, yeah, but you're not allowed to use that evidence. That evidence... No. So instead of saying- The drug companies don't want to see that evidence. Instead of adjusting the Instead of adjusting what should happen because based on evidence, what they did was they just denounced people who brought the evidence and said, Well, those people, let's demonize them. Let's denounce them, whatever. And so when I first brought this up, I was like, I did a commercial with Aaron Rogers, for State Farm, who, coincidentally, became vaccine hesitant himself, and rightfully so, realizing- What a good guy he is. He's a great guy. But realizing the human immune system, this is before he knew any of this, so he cleared himself. He He had nothing.

He never talked to me about this after. But we did a commercial for State Farm, and he hasn't done any since since he's been vaccinated hesitant. But the human immune system, which has been proved true, is like, you can't trust the human immune system that's been working for millions of our hundreds of thousands of years. Why would you do that when you could take this drug that we just made yesterday at warped speed? So it's just a weird logic. So I came out, and then I got attacked by the goons. And this is 10 years ago when a few people can attack a company like State Farm and say, This is dangerous, blah, blah, blah. And then they could think it's a lot of people. And then they took it. So I got slammed. And the media is this anti-vaxxer, which is a very interesting term, anti-vaxxer. You can complain about the Boeing 737 max airplane because it is dangerous. We did have an engine fall out. A piece did fall out. You can say, You know what? There's a problem with these problems. Nobody says, This is an anti-planer. This guy over here is an anti-airplane.

We're talking about it's an airplane. You don't talk bad about an airplane. But if you question any of the 72 different doses of 16 vaccines before the age of six, then you're an anti-vaxxer. It's an interesting term. Also, I say this in my standard back, they said, if a woman doesn't want to have sex with you, that doesn't make her anti-dick. She's just anti-your dick. She may be open to a lot of other members, but yours, specifically, it doesn't make her anti-all.

So you make this- And by the way, it doesn't make her a bad person.

It doesn't make her a bad person, exactly. But anyway, the attack happens. Then when you survive an attack, that's the most interesting part because anybody can get attacked. It's like, do you cow? Do you buckle under? Or do you just go, I'm still here. I've survived. Now what? I'm one of those guys who, as I'm a little person, and they say on the internet, it's like five, three. I'm just five, five, by the way. I don't know why that matters. My wife says, Only men care about that stuff. You never hear a woman say, I'm five, six and a half. They never say that. But men, your egos, you got to, I'm five, four and a half. Who cares about the half? But I'm one of those guys who, when you're little, you got to defend yourself. I remember you were fighting a super nice guy. He's a pilot now. Bob McPeek and I got, and he was like, 6'3. Great guy. He lives in Florida. A lovely guy. He lives in a neighbor. We're friends. When we got into a fight and I go like, okay. As kids? As kids. We're like junior high and we're going to fight.

I'm looking at him like, this guy is going to clean my clock. The only way I'm going to get out of this is if I just get him in the nose, just whack him, and I just So just wait for it, wait for it, wait for it. A lot of guys fighting, it's like this. They think the bigger the swing, the better. But the guys who know about fighting, especially Filipinos who change fighting, we can talk about that, it's all on the shoulder. It's just right here. It's the short one that's got... You use the hip and you turn. And then so I waited and I go pop. And it was like, that was it. Fight over. And I said, I got out of that one. But you have to defend yourself. And so I just felt like when you survive and you get a little, you go, I got to be crafty about this, but I'm not going to bow to this pressure. And I never have. And I've never apologized or rebutted it because I'm right about it. And I'm going to continue to believe these people because the health of American children is more important me making Deuce Bigelow four.

So I don't... Whatever. But we have to continue to fight to get Americans healthy, mentally healthy, physically healthy, and get them off these drugs and to also have awareness for all our people about how they can learn to get healthy. Because if you go off the food pyramid, you're going to be fat, obese, you're going to have diabetes. My dad had diabetes, which is what I'm concerned about my children. That was one One of the things that my daughter.

But Ozempic is going to cure diabetes for all time, right?

Well, that is a dangerous drug that we don't even understand the full implications of what that drug is going to do. And I've just heard... I was just talking to Dr. Drew Minsky about that just the other night. That's a dangerous drug. Get off that drug. There's never such a thing as an easy cheat. You can get off. I would just tell Americans, get off sugar and things that turn into sugar, grains, and get off processed oils, seed oils, anything. It's safflower, sunflow oil. All that seed oil you got to get rid of because it's toxic, it's rancid, and it will make you sick, and it causes diseases. And if you look specifically since the processed foods. The only reason they put it in is so it doesn't rot on the shelf. When you have something that doesn't rot and go bad, doesn't grow mold. If mold says, I don't want any of that. Well, then don't put it in your body. It's the seed oil. The palm oil, all this stuff. It's not real It's just to keep it on the shelf so it doesn't rot. So all that stuff, we got to start learning.

That's what's interesting is the liberals are attacking what they can attack. The problem with vaccines and the problem with is they think they could do something so that they do it. And it's the same thing with choosing a particular gas. We're choosing CO₂. That's the problem. That's what's causing the warming of the planet. Not the fact that we're There's a giant fireball that we're circling around, but it's the gas. It's you cooking and gardening. That's what's causing it, and cows farting. It's a lunacy. But going back, just because you think you could do something, It doesn't mean you should do it. The scarlet fever killed more people than smallpox and tuberculosis. But you don't see a scarlet fever. There's no scarlet fever vaccine, and you don't see it rampant around the world. And tuberculosis, nobody takes a tuberculosis vaccine, but you don't see it rampant around. So they're doing these other ones because they can do something. Like the measles, this is all... You can all look it up, and it's in my book, You Can Do It, Speak Your Mind, America, that thankless... I mean, obvious plug, is that just because you can do something doesn't mean you should.

So because they could do something, like they put in the measles vaccine in 1961. And by that time, all of the deaths from measles had disappeared. They just literally was none by 1961, and yet they put this in. Because what really, and you can go to the CDC to look it up, what made the difference with human health, what changed was the fact that people weren't living in squalar, toilets, sanitation. So what happened was all the success of sanitation, which increased people's life expectancies, made people healthy, that is what saved society and cleaned up society. Literally, toilets, sanitation, clean drinking water, and nutrition. But vaccine mythology, vaccines piggybacked on the success of that. And that's why we're dealing with this now.

Yeah. No, it's interesting because the big killer scolars, cholera, bubonic plague, are really diseases of squalor.

Well, people were living in the 19th century. In the early 20th century, they were literally... They didn't have a clean water source. There literally was like animals defecating in the same places as their water source. Or people defecating. And people, yeah. It was all going. I remember there was Anders, who's the writer, the co-writer of of Marks, his father was an industrialist, and he was in 1857 in Manchester, England. He was walking around and he described the people there as white ghosts. Even the common cold he knew wipe these people out. So that is an important... Getting that sanitation and clean drinking water and cleaning things up is what really made it.

So you waved... I beg your pardon. My question, Because you don't want to talk about yourself. But the effect of saying what you did about health, did that affect your job prospect? It did affect my work. Absolutely work.

Yeah. I got a call from a friend of mine who's a CEO of a Fortune 500 I don't have a lot of those, by the way. But he called me, and I was in Boston, and I just got off. And it was the big whole state farm affair that happened. I just got off stage, and I was still shaken by the thing because I'd never been attacked by every newspaper and all this stuff. And the internet was new. I was still a working actor at the time making movies and stuff. My friend called me and he said, Listen, you're really famous. Now, you're just a nuisance right now. But if you hurt them, if you cost them money, you will never work again. And these companies will sue not just you. They'll sue these other places to make sure that you never work again. And I said, what? But I said, but I'm right about this. He said, somebody's got to stand up. He said, you have, and he said this to me, you have a daughter. Is it fair that she has to do this fight, too? And I was like, whoa. That took me out of my knees.

That's very heavy.

It is.

It was- Just to clarify, was this a friend offering you constructive advice or is this someone threatening you? Or both, maybe.

It was a really good friend who was giving me advice that he thought, and obviously somebody had talked to him. Or he just knew enough to know that this is what's happening because that's the world that he travels in. He's a really good guy and a dear friend. I think he was trying to just help me from what he knew could happen. Yes. You want to continue. I like to continue my habit. I have an addiction of wanting to keep my family eating and sleeping indoors in private school. I have a car with the charger in my house. I like to keep that. I like to keep going out and eating couple of nights a week and maybe traveling once a year with the kids in the front of the plane. I have my habits I want to continue. But at the same time, it said, you have to be, and I would just tell other people, you have to be smart about this and questioning things and that we have to stand up because to not stand up and speak, it's dangerous to stand up and speak, and it's going to cost you money.

It's going to cost you money if you stand up and speak your mind. But when you knowingly go along with something that you know is false, that's going to cost you more. And that's something in our society, we have to go by We have to just confront these lies. We can't continue or we're going to have a nation of lies. I have people that call me.

I have a-Thank you for saying that. I think everything you said is true and important to say.

Thank you.

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So this This is a real thing. We can't continue as a society if everybody's so afraid. That was what Alexander de Tocqueville admired most about America when he came here, was the Frenchman seeing people speak their mind here. That is a unique thing. The idea of freedom of speech is there's not an accident that that was put first before guns. They know that you want to really protect society and your best weapon against tyrannies, to be able to speak your mind, to be able to speak freely without reproach and recrimination from your government. That isn't to say there are not consequences for it, but the consequences of not speaking are going to be much, much higher. So this young person was telling me, I want to speak my mind, and I want to talk about it, but I'm afraid about losing work. And I said, Just be judicious. Talk about it in your life, but it will affect your work if you do. People need to stand up, but I said- Did it affect yours? Absolutely. 100 %.

So your friend was right?

My friend was right. He was right. But I want to say that to that young actor, I said, look, you can talk to the makeup person. You can talk to the driver.

Yeah, they'll always agree with you, I've noticed through long experience.

People who work for a living, they know this is all bullshit. Yes, they do. Talk to your driver, talk to your Uber driver, talk to the makeup person. Talk to the boom man between shots. Exactly. But don't talk to the producer. Don't talk to the director. Don't talk to the studio executive because they're all captured. They're stuck in an ideological, woke mind virus, and they're not going to get out of it because it could affect their work. Because they don't operate an actor operates. I just want to get hired. I just want to get work. Every actor just wants to get hired. But they operate from a different perspective. The executives at studios in Hollywood, they offer, they know they're going to get fired. They know it. It's just a matter of time. But they operate not what's the best movie, what can I do that is meaningful to me. They don't operate that way. When they make decisions to make projects, they operate like, what will delay my inevitable firing the longest? How do I keep this beach house? How do I keep traveling on weekends? How do I keep dating these beautiful girls who are only dating me because I'm an executive?

So that's the crux.

I hope people watching this know how true what you just said is.

It's so true. And it's not just the entertainment. I'm sure it's everywhere. People are like, they're just worried, I got to ride this out as long as I can. But yet it did affect me, but it freed me. And you know what that's like. It liberates you. When you no longer feel a slave to the system, when they don't own you, you are free. I mean, you're going to have to figure out how to make a living elsewhere. But I said to myself, and that's why I love Chris Rock. Chris Rock was like, sometimes you have a friend who like... We were the grownups together. We were together every day, and I just watched him in his mind. He changed stand-up, comedy. He's the one to talk me into doing stand-up again. Because Adam Sandler, he loves me, and he wants me. I listened to what he says, but he wasn't doing stand-up at that time, but Chris Rock was, and he was the best at it. He changed modern stand-up to what is now. He was a real influence that we built on. And he talked me into doing it again. And I was like, wow, that changed me.

And I said, they can take away the movies. They can take away doing a TV show. But they can't stop me. I said this to myself. They can't stop me from performing with a bunch of other malcontent in a dark and drinking establishment. They want to come see. They can't take that away. And you know what, Tucker? They did. They did take it away. In COVID, they took it away. I didn't even perform. And then they said, you can perform. And I would go to every state that was still open. I did 14 shows for whatever capacity that they would do during COVID in the one place that was open in Nashville at that time, because they said 50 % capacity. So I'll just keep doing shows as long as people come. And I did 14. I have the record for shows there, for half sold out. I sold out every show with a half capacity. And so people didn't want to come anymore. I did four. I stayed for a week. I could have stayed longer. There was a week was long enough, I don't mean to sound like Trump. It was the greatest show.

I could have stayed for three years. It was the greatest show. It was an amazing show. The shows were disasters. But what was really interesting was people, especially for Conservatives, they felt like, well, here's a guy who agrees with me, and I don't see it on TV. I don't hear that. I don't hear other comedians because it's a fearful thing. You know what? You're not going to get on TV. You don't see me on late night TV. You don't see me going on Colbert talking about any of this stuff. And that's okay. So people It's created an audience for me. I didn't have one show that wasn't sold out last year. Roanoke, I don't know what happened there. But anyway. It's a tough town. It's a tough town. I got to tell you, I don't know what's happening that weekend. Maybe there's a festival or something. But people want to They want to hear another opposing point of view. They want to hear something they can relate to. It's like, Thank you. I did this thing about, you talked about United Airlines hiring. We don't want these white pilots. White, I don't care what it is.

I want somebody It was the highest likelihood- The best pilot. Of us landing this thing. We're in a tin can at 37,000 feet. I'm sorry if your ideological problems or what you're ideological vision is, but mine is landing safely. And so I did a thing about that. I cannot fly without a pilot coming. I think, Thank you. Thank you. But there's an audience for it and they want to hear it. So it's a pleasure.

So you felt no bitterness?

Yeah, I did. I definitely felt like, Man, that was rough.

Did you take your friend's advice seriously when he gave it to you?

Yeah. No, I realized that if I'm going to continue to make a living in this business, I'm going to have to be very judicious about it and be careful and take care of my family. Because also my wife didn't understand. My wife didn't understand. It's like my wife's from Mexico, which is tougher than the United States. They made hard work people. Thank God for Mexicans. You're going to come. You want people that want to work and they'll work hard and I want legal immigration. These people are lovely, hard working people. She didn't understand. It's like, why would you Why would you want to risk things for this? And the most beautiful thing, and I talked to Robert Kennedy about this, and my wife, when she said to me, she came to me. I was literally in the bathtub. When she came to me, she said, I didn't understand why you would do this, why you would risk your career and income and our family by speaking up about this issue. Because I always thought, as long as you protect them inside the house, they're protected. And then we got this and let the world take care of itself.

But now I realize you have to also protect the kids outside the home. And she sees the encroachment of this woke mind virus and the fact that all of a sudden there's a real attack on women in our society that I didn't... Nobody saw that coming. And for her to recognize that. And it was It was really a really beautiful, special thing that I experienced. Bobby Kennedy related to that.

Do you think that she was proud of you, your wife?

Not before that. No, I mean, so she comes to you and says, which I think is pretty common.

She says, Look, I get you got these opinions, but you also have a family to feed. What are you doing? You explain to her that there's something bigger at stake.

But what is that How can you think of what a... I mean, there's a beautiful expression, and we all have to be careful about this, too. It's a Mexican expression. I've been doing Duolingo for like, You have a Duolingo for two years, and I still... I'm just nervous about learning. I've always had that. But that's my excuse. There's a beautiful expression in Mexico, which is the light of the world is the darkness of the house. Be careful about how about just going out there and trying to heal the world and do all these things, and then your house is dark. You have to take care of the house first.

That's right. I strongly agree with that.

You have to make sure everything's okay in there and that you're protecting and taking care of your kids, and that they know that they're loved, they know who their father is, and that they feel safe, and that they feel loved, and that they're embraced, and they're being raised with a faith in God, and that they know their country is a good country. And that they know that their future is secure. And that's something that's tougher, and it's encroaching on every aspect of it. And so while I've been blessed and that people find what I have to say. Some of them interesting and hopefully funny. I've been able to continue to take care of my family. And to give the kids all my children the best education I can get. And I went to public school and I didn't think there was anything wrong with it because I didn't have anything to compare it to. But I will say that... And you could put your kids, if you're lucky enough to have the opportunity, to put your kids to the best schools you can. But the majority of our country is being educated in public school.

And We have to make sure that that education for the majority of these people is good and that they're learning something that's useful. And they're being taught to be critical thinkers, to be useful for themselves and for society, that they can come and make decisions and not just crank out what's happening now at the university level in academia, which is just... They're just not cranking out. They're not making or helping people think critically, these young people. No. They're cranking out advocates for a particular partisan ideology, and that's it. And so this has been going on for a long time. We're late to the party to try to fix this. The ideology, which James Lindsay talks about, has been infiltrated into our society. And they knew, the Marxists knew that, oh, well, the revolution is not going to happen with the worker. Well, why? Because capitalism works. If you work your ass off of the people here, they work their ass off. Your life is going to get better.

The workers actually hate revolution more than anything.

I've noticed. It interrupts their lifestyle the weekend. Exactly.

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So they did it through education. They did it through people who had grievances. They did it through small, angry groups. And as you know, they got into the educational system and they infiltrated it. And by the 1970s, let's get K through 12, and then let's move on through to the university and academia. By the late 1970s, they have infiltrated it. And so you have this ideology now, and this Whether you want to call it Marxist or this woke terminology, which is just Trojan horse terms like social justice. Who would be against social justice? I'm for social justice. But when you realize that's a Trojan horse term and you go in, it's not social justice. It's racism. It's just the same crap the progressives were doing 100 years ago, inversed. Exactly. So you have these same progressives who are like, 120 years ago, the eugenics, talking about these people are inferior. We shouldn't...

We got to kill them.

Yeah, we got to Then we got to not let them breed. Then you realize, well, these are inferior people. These people of color are inferior. This is eugenics science back 110 years ago. But with the Nazi Germany, you saw what the apex of eugenics was, was mass murder.

The Nazis killed hundreds of thousands of children and sick adults in hospitals. Hundreds of, I I think 300, over 300,000.

And- By the way, that's the one crime.

We spent a lot of time talking about the crimes of the Nazis, which is fine, but that's the one crime no one mentions anymore.

As a matter of fact- Because they're for it.

That's why.

Well, what you're having now is the same racism, but it's inversed. You're taking these people and they're like, well, these people are automatically victims just because of the color of their skin. They're victims now, and they're oppressed by these people. So it's easy We did see what it really is. It's just another way to just attack and use the same Marxist Maoist thing where these are the people are the goods, these are the bads. We're going to have utopia, which is these people, they're the ones stopping it. And all you have to do is give up your guns and your rights, and then we're going to have it. Why don't we have all those people? Well, let's get those people. James Lindsay really helped educate me and a lot of others in his new discours about what this really is. It's important for people to get educated and the people to realize so that they can identify it in their life, in their daily life at work. Don't apologize. If you're saying something, don't apologize for it. No apologies. I don't apologize for my jokes. No matter what. These are jokes, people. Get over it.

It's funny. In a horror film, you have a slasher, and they go like... It's some slasher movie. Nobody comes out after a horror movie. I did not approve of those slashings and those murders. This is horrible. No, Nobody ever complies about a standup, a guy talking. They go like, I don't agree with that. That's homophobic, transphobic, and that's sexy. You're held to a different standard. I don't understand why.

I'm not a very good interviewer. Sometimes you said a minute ago that you were a Christian as a young man. Then you go in the... How old were you when you went into the entertainment business?

Gosh, I was just trying to avoid a normal job because I didn't like them. Yeah, I get it. The most fun thing ever was telling jokes with your friends. Then I saw when I was 11, my dad took me to see George Carlin. By the way, remember when we were kids, they'd watch whatever you want. They didn't say... It I'm not going to take you to the movies. It was too expensive to get a babysitter. So my parents took me to see Planet of the Apes when I was five. 2001: A Space Odyssey. They didn't ask me, was that okay? Was that too much? Now my wife's like, it's not PG 13. They're not saying it's PG 13. You're not going to watch any of your movies. My wife still has never let me see any movie. They've never let my kids see any movie I've ever made except Daddy Daughtertrip. That was how I- Wait, your wife doesn't watch your kids? She wanted to let my kids see- See your movies. Well, if you don't want to see Deuce Bigelow as a man whore or the Hot Chick, they'll see it when they're 13.

So you go to the entertainment business.

I go in. I got into it. I saw George Carlin. It was the funniest thing I'd ever seen. Then when I was 14, I or 15, I saw Steve Martin perform in front of 2,000 people. And back then, I was starting to put it together. Because TV and movies, they're not real. It's like, those are people aren't real. It's like that guy, it's not real. He's a movie star. I don't realize he doesn't go to the bathroom, that guy. And so when I saw Steve Martin in person who also changed comedy, he's the first guy to do stadiums, this guy. And it was so funny and I was laughing, but I saw him as a human being in the same room as me. I said, Well, he did it. He figured it out. He was able to figure out how to be a performer. Maybe I could. That was it. Then I told my dad, Marvin, who was a lovely man who loved comedy, and he had comedy albums. I grew up with that. I said, Dad, on Monday nights, they let anybody go up and perform at this one club. He go, What is it?

I said, That's the Holy City Zoo in San Francisco. They let anybody go up on Mondays. I said, It's Monday. He said, Let's go. I went. He took me that night, and that was it.

You performed?

Yeah, it was really awkward. It's like seeing those drunk people in dark bars that were still smoking heavily at the time. They don't want to see a kid up on stage. It's like, reminding them of what they're ignoring at home.

But you did it in front of your dad? Yeah. That takes some brass.

He was great. You're great. You're funny. You guys are great. You're terrific. You're funny.

Where was he from?

He was from San Francisco. His parents were East European Jews. His grandfather was from Tarnupal. I mean, his father was from Tarnupal. Who came over. It's one of those things when they came over, they thought they'd save money somehow if they lie about the age. So they put the different age there.

They saved money by lying about their age.

He's 15. He's eight. He's not nine. He's eight. I don't know why they did. So he found out when he's older, said, I'm really a year older? What happened? And then my grandmother, Molly Hoffmann, she came from Ukraine. They came over and they worked hard. My grandfather I had a barbershop right next to the Fox Theater on seventh Street, on Market Street in San Francisco, seventh Street in Market. He had a little barbershop. He got hair and my dad would shine shoes during World War II. He would get a nickel dime. It was a great place to grow up. They would give him... He told me they give him literally a quarter, and he'd be able to take that I'm wrong about it. They gave him... It was like a dollar, and he was able to spend the whole day and go to the World Fair on a dollar by himself. And this is 1939, World Fair in San Francisco. So he was eight just walking around by himself. Not a care of the world.

What did he do in later life?

He went into real estate and carved out a little a loan business for people. Remember, for people complaining about the price of the interest rates for homes and banks now, in 1980, in early days, it was 18 %. Yeah. It was thanks to the Carter administration, they were able to jack it up. And so he would get, figure out a way with some investors to help get people to loan them money for a loan on their home or to help be their first home.

So like private banking. Yeah.

And he did that. And he was also just a really good guy who realized after the Brown versus the Board of Education, 1954, that this racism stuff is stupid, it's wrong. And so he was one of the first realtors in San Francisco to rent to African-Americans in places that weren't, that wasn't. And so That wasn't easy for him. And so with that, my mother was a school teacher, and I think it did... My mother was a war survivor in World War II. So I think that was a good- Where was she in World War II?

In the Philippines.

Her father was an American soldier, and she never met until she accidentally met him in San Francisco. But both her brothers were killed during the World War.

By the Japanese?

By the Japanese. But she had no bitterness about it. And she really was a strong person. I didn't really... I'm still coming to grips with what my upbringing was with her. I respect her tremendously. She just said she was never fearful. The reason I survived, I was never afraid. I knew I was going to survive. And so she literally, her mother would make bedsheets, take bedsheets and sew them. Because the thing about America, this is a unique experiment in freedom in the history of the world. That's why it's so important that we need to keep freedom of speech and keep our freedom because there's no one that's going to come and rescue us if anything happens. And so she would make with her mother, they would make these pajamas out of these soft bedsheets that they'd had, and they would trade them because the caste system, which is a lot of the world. My mother used to say, even maids have maids in the Philippines. There's a descending cascading poverty level that just keeps going down and down. So she would trade this with the people, the farmers, who suddenly had the most valuable thing, food.

She would walk for hours, a day to get up to where they were and get this comote, which was sweet potato. She would trade for that. She'd have to be really nice to the people, and knew that things have changed. That's how she survived. She said, not everybody did. Her brother's 17 Bill was drafted by Roosevelt under an agreement that you could be in the US Army. If you're Filipino, you could be drafted and go in the US Army. So he did it 17. He was in the Bata'an Death March. And he survived it and then died of a dysentery at 17.

Damn.

And her brother also died at 15. He said he refused to believe that his brother had died. He said, he's got to be with the gorillas out. I'm going to go get them. And my mother said, don't, don't. She stayed up all night with him, trying to talk her brother John into not going. And she wasn't successful in the morning, he said, he gave her a hundred pesos. Hang on to this. I'm going to come back. And he never did. And then it wasn't until my mother's 60th high school, high school reunion, where there's only a few people that have survived, where she found out why the Japanese captured him and interrogated him and killed him. It's because he was... And she didn't realize it, but one of her classmates did, because he was wearing, her brother was wearing their brother's US Army boots. So the Japanese thought, well, he must know something.

And they killed him.

They killed him. Well, what happened is at that time, the form of information was rumor and innuendo. So the rumor got back that the Japanese have him. And what the Japanese said was, come and get your son, my grandmother Victoria. But my grandmother Victoria knew from what happens to other families, if you go, the Japanese will torture you in front of him to make him talk, and then they'll just kill you both. So she had to make her Filipino Sophie's choice. And she had three daughters. So she stayed and they killed him. But my mother didn't have a bitterness towards the Japanese. I never heard one hateful thing. My mother was said it was war. And one of her brother-in-law was half Japanese who helped one of the reasons they survived. So that's just another.

What was she like as a mother?

She was tough.

Yeah, I bet.

She was tough.

She would-Not your average Bay Area mom.

Well, there was a lot of Filipinos. That was a beautiful thing about because on my birth certificate, it says, Father, White, Mother, Oriental. Back then, that's just what in 1963, that's what you were called. If you're Asian, you're not Asian, you're Oriental. I think Asian was like a slur. I'm not Asian, I'm Oriental. What are you talking about?

It just means Eastern.

Yeah, my dad was open to this, and it was beautiful. He was very open-minded, a traditional liberal, which is the best. Free speech, don't judge people by the color of their skin, women's rights, gay rights. That traditional liberalism, which has been abused to me and other stuff now. She was tough. If you wasted food, that was a problem. I bet. My dad had to tell her, We got to throw this food out. What are you talking about? It's still good. He said, But there's mold on it. Yeah, but we can cut the mold off. She said, No, what we do is we'll just buy, we'll throw it away and just buy new stuff of that. That was just like... I mean, it was for my mother. That was a bizarre concept, throwing food away that you could still eat. She told me, she said, they took the camote and they would mix it and mix it until it was basically water just to stretch it out. So she had something. She starved during the war and she had stomach problems her whole life. She lived in almost 93. She said, And then they would take the skin of the camote and we'd burn that.

My mother would burn it. That would be our coffee because it looked like coffee. I was like, wow. But she didn't say with bitterness, it looked like coffee. Let's have some coffee. Growing up with that, I didn't truly understand it. Because what happens, I think, and now that I understand what I learned from great people like M. Scott Peck and Dr. Gabor Mathe was that there's traditional, I'm sorry, generational trauma. Because I work with... Gabor Mathe worked with me in a couple of sessions and talked to me about generational trauma. I said, What is that? I didn't go to the war. Why? I know it's not my problem. He He said, Yes, but it's passed on to you. Because he was in his mother's womb in Hungary during World War II. And he said, Your mother, she suffered. She must have passed on to you. And I said, No, what What are you... I said, I don't think so. He said, Well, when you travel places, is there anything... What is that like? What do you do? And he talked to me, What do I do? And I said, What do you do? Do you bring anything with you?

And I went, Food?

You bring food with you?

Everywhere I go. I got a bag. I got I got some food in there. He said, Where do you think you got that from? I was like, It's true.

If it gets moldy, do you throw it away?

Yes. I go, I'm going to go right back to Sprouts and I buy another.

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I think my siblings got it worse than me. Definitely, because I was the youngest.

They bring food with them, too.

You know what? I don't ask them about that. I should. But I just remember being a really young boy. My mother, my dad, he took her places. It was nice. They would travel together and they would go out to dinner. I remember my mom yelling, All right, we're going out. Anybody touch a hair on Robbie? I murder all of you. I was like, Tough for the other kids, but I'm Robbie. I think it helped create a monster.

Was she a Christian?

She was Catholic, but then she got divorced. She met my father, who was Jewish. I think they both made a decision about... She survived the Japanese. She could survive not being accepted by the Catholic Church. I tried to get my priest, Father Paso, who was a great guy, to speak with her towards the end of her life. She just declined. I wanted her to really make peace, and I think in a lot of ways, she did. As time goes by, I realized, look what my sister told me, Sister April, who's a lovely, lovely girl who had it worse than me. She was older and her parents divorced, my mother's first husband. And she said, You realize we were raised by a 12-year-old girl, right? Because that's when that trauma happened. And that's what Dr. Gabor talked about with me. It's at that time of trauma, it's where they revert back to. And it just all made sense. I said, I get it.

So if your parents weren't believers, how would you become a Christian?

I found it. I found some really happy, content people, and I go, What's going on with these people?

They were not in the entertainment business. I'm betting.

They were not. I was in junior high, and I go, What's with these people? My My friend's brother, Ed Marcus's brother, he was a very conflicted kid and had some problems and was experimenting with different things. And then he just was suddenly the most peaceful guy to be around. What's happening with this guy? I said, What's happening with you? He said, Well, come find out. And I went to this place and everybody in there was like, Hey, so nice to have you. Welcome. This is our house. This is your house. I was like, wow. And that's a beautiful thing that Mexicans say when you go to their house. They go like, Es tu casa también. This is your house as well. Yes. What a beautiful thing to say to people. And I went in and I was just really moved by how welcoming this was. And it didn't feel like what I was in My house, you know how people like, anytime somebody called my mom and I answer, What? Is Robbie there? Why? Well, I go to school with him. So? Well, I just want to talk to him. Why? Well, because he's my friend and I want to check.

So I grew up with that. My mom The world was a dangerous place for her. Where are you going? Don't go outside. It's dangerous because for her, she grew up that was a dangerous place. You have to have a balance with that.

But you wind up in a classmate's church, and it seems like a place of refuge?

A place of peace. I was like, What is this? Then when you spend time reading the Bible, when you spend time with other Christians, you feel the presence of Christ. You just do. When I was doing the rosary, I have no problem with any other religions. If you believe in Christ, you're my brother. And if you're not, you're my brother, Those who are not against us are with us. And those who are against us are potentially with us, too. We just have to be there. You feel the presence of God, and that is a powerful thing. It's moving and it's healing. And so While I strayed, there's always in the back of my mind to go like, I'm never going to go away. There's that Jesus come, I'm never going to go away. When you need me most, I'll be there. It's times like this, though. It's just like, wow, it's beautiful. I hope I can... I'm just very grateful and lucky and fortunate. I feel so close with my family. I feel so gifted by everything. All the problems that you have are just you got to interpret it like this is a potential to bring you closer to God and to help people and to bring you closer to where you need to be.

This is all opportunities. I think as people are going to get really angry when the election happens, whoever wins. I would just tell people, it's not, Robert Kennedy talks about this, too. It's not the end of our Republic. It's not the end of democracy. It's going to be more encroachments. If the Democrats win, I believe there will be more encroachments on freedom. But it's not the end. We still have this tried and true legislative executive judicial. And even though the legislative still continues to abdicate their power to the executive, which is not supposed to happen where Biden comes in, he does 125 executive orders. We're basically hiring an Emperor. But still, get involved at the state level. Get involved with your school board. And I would say one of the biggest dangers of an incoming continuation of the Democratic Party. And I'm not to say that the Republicans haven't done their abuse and the lies that the Bush administration, the the wars they caused. But the problem is, if the Democrats get back in, I'm worried about the educational system. As Mom's for Liberty, they talk about this, is giving more money from the feds to our school boards at the state to control what happens at the state level and our local school boards.

So the school board meetings will mean nothing. It doesn't all be the feds, they're funding most of it, 26% they want to go to. I think it's 13 now. If they do that and then control, then we're really talking about another problem with indoctrination of children. And that's going to be a real... I mean, that's one thing we should really be aware about. Act locally, get involved.

What will you say to people whose candidate loses in November.

Calm, no violence, no violence. And know that it's going to be two years. Hold the reins. No matter who wins, hold the reins. It's going to be two years of what damage they can do. And then they're going to be a lame duck for the next two years. And just hold the reins. And I'm saying, don't give in to violence. And unfortunately, our social media is creating and exploiting and making money off of turning people as extreme as they can so they can increase their addictions. And these addictions that we started with, these are addictions to social media. And that's something we got to control, get a handle on. And I would just tell people, like anything new that's coming into the world, like whether it's airplanes, okay, well, it's It was first invented in 1903 by the Wright brothers. Supposedly, the Russians and French say otherwise. However, 15 years later, this new invention, 15 years later, they were using it to drop bombs at and kill people. And then it took another 20 years for it to become aviation. Where people can actually get to places by the early 1930s. So right now, social media is just at the time where it's just dropping bombs, killing people, destroying people, and canceling people, and that stuff.

So we'll have to give it time. And just for schools, can you imagine if you and I took our television set to school in the morning and our newspaper and our daddy's dirty porn magazines? Imagine that I found underneath the stairs, by the way. I noticed that we didn't have the same money for makeup as Playboy. But anyway, my point is, can you imagine bringing all that? That's what you allow when you have phones in schools now. So this is a real problem we have to get a handle on. When you get bullied or whatever, or people would say bad things about you, you farted in the middle of the class and it was humiliating. Well, at least when you went home, it was like, stops. It turns off. I got an hour. No, it never stops. They got the phone and they got people saying stuff about you and this and how many likes you have. So no phones. I mean, just flip phone, no social media till 16 minimum. Calm down. No violence. Don't give into it, and just know that you can't act. And this is a country, it's a Republic. It's not this parliamentary system in Europe, which is where these unelected people, the European Commission, now are controlling what happens in other countries.

And thankfully, Hungary is still holding firm. And it really is under threat. Right now, we have free speech. There's the free speech in England is under attack.

Yeah, I would say.

And comedians are under attack now. So that's a... We talk about in the book, you can do it, the comedians under attack, and now they have this hate laws. And free speech has to be open to protect the... It's not the safe stuff or stuff everybody agrees with that needs to be protected. Appropriate or approved speech is not the stuff that needs to protect me. It's the unapproved stuff. And you have to have all of it, to have friction in society, to have the best ideas arise, and let them be like ACLU when it used to be a decent organization that used to protect rights, they've defended the Nazis right in Skoki, Illinois, to march, not because they agreed with the Nazis, but because the Jewish guy who was in charge of ACLU at the time said, The best way to defeat the Nazis is to let them speak. Of course. So they went to the Supreme Court and a lot, and then to fight for them for their right to speak.

Well, that's how a self-confident country behaves. A country that believes in its own values, in its founding documents, their They're happy to tolerate disagreement because they know that they're right and that if people are given the freedom to choose, they'll choose them. I feel like censorship suggests the people in charge know how hated they are and how stupid their ideas are, and that's why they can't handle the challenge to them.

Well, if you abdicate your free speech, your right to unfettered speech, and you let the state decide, then they're going to decide what's in their interests. Of course. And they're going to limit the speech, and they are trying to. And it shouldn't be surprising, but it was surprising to me that when it was discovered through the... Thank God for Elon Musk, and God bless him and protect him and pray for Elon Musk, his protection. Thank God for the Twitter files, because the terrific work of Matthew Schellenberger and Matt Taibi, this was really happening. They were able to discover that the government was infringing on the rights of Americans and limiting and censoring speech that they disagreed with for what the government wanted to do. Then when they had Congressional hearings, instead of correcting the situation, which was egregious and a violation of the First Amendment rights of Americans, instead of adjusting it based on this new evidence, this anti-American and attack on our system and free speech. The Democrats were just attacking the messengers and attacking the people who brought this and trying to undermine them and demonize them. And it's like, wow, this is the time to regroup and go, Hey, this is bad.

Let's fix this.

Yes.

But they didn't do that. And that's what George Washington warns us about. When partisanship, when people worry more about parties, then they can really be a threat to the nation. That's for sure.

So you started on Saturday Night Live in '89, I think '89.

'89, '90 season. With- The glory Years.

Well, actually, I think that's fair. I mean, the cast that you started with, they're all still famous to this day.

We had a great cast. But all I remember from that time is the newspaper saying how much we sucked, that we weren't as good as the first cast.

Can you just remind us who was on the show that year?

Well, the great Dana Carvie, Dennis Miller, Mike Myers, really talented guy, and Phil Hartman, of course, and the new guys coming in, which was... Nora Dunn was there and Jan Hooks, Kevin, the great Kevin Neelen, great guy. And talent. Then the new guys was me, David Spade, who got hired together as writers. Then the next fall, 1990, Adam Sandler ended up coming. My buddy, who I lived right across the street with, He lived with Judd Apatow right across the street from me in North Hollywood. Then Chris Farley came in at that time. It was a really good time for a comedy, and it was a great place to be in their 20s.

That's 35 years, at least, that you've lived in that world. What's the response from your colleagues, peers, friends, to some of the things that you've been saying over the last hour?

They're coming around. They don't agree with all of it, but I would say that they're agreeing more to what they're seeing because it's tough because it is insulated. You can. You can stay in your political echo chamber. You can absolutely avoid any questioning of your belief systems, because belief systems, what we're talking about, is the toughest thing to have challenged. For sure. You could talk about, am I a good cook? I don't know if I'm a good cook or whatever. But if you talk about your belief systems, if you talk about somebody's sense of humor, do you have a good sense of humor? Yes, absolutely. Why wouldn't I? But not everybody. You can't be a good cook. Not everybody has the best sense of humor. When you get to that belief system and start to question, people get angry. But I think people are waking up. And you got to have people with differences of opinion. The difference is, as you know now, it's like, as we've seen before, if you You disagreed, you disagreed and you work, whatever. Now, if you have a different opinion, you're a bad person. Yes. And you're judged for that.

So now people don't want to give their opinion, which makes the expression and it makes our culture poorer because we need everybody to talk and let the best ideas rise to the surface. Exactly. And not judge them from particular thing and for a particular point of view. They have every right to have.

But do you Do you think that people in the world that you've spent your life in would agree with what you just said? I think so.

If you get them one on one, not on Twitter, not on Facebook. Not on Twitter. Not on Facebook.

But have you been able to preserve your friendships despite political differences? Most.

Some people, sadly, from the Bay Area, who watch one of the networks that has four letters. Or was it M-S-N-B-C? Five.

They- I used to work there, and I didn't know that.

They love me, but I don't hear from them as much. They're lovely people, and I love them. I feel like if they did see me. They'd hug me. But they said to me, there's a lot of people who like Gavin Newsom.

Actually?

They're from Northern California. There's a lot of people. They really like him. And you know what? He's in power. And there was a chance that we were worried because we saw what he did to San Francisco. It's interesting because you take guys that are really authoritarian. They have no problem closing your business. Oh, no. But if it's a business that they're associated with or they get in money, they'll keep open. And Justin Trudeau, the dictator of the north, he will have no problem trouncing on the rights of Canadians who are protesting, who really would have helped open and end COVID was those truckers who risked everything there. And this a-hole, cold-weather dictator closed their bank accounts and just completely took away their rights. And that's the thing about it, man. Your rights, they are on a piece of paper. And unless they're backed by the will and by the goodwill and by the people insist on it, it's just going to be a piece of paper. And so that's what happened in Canada. And those people's rights were trounced upon. Luckily, though, but that was enough to wake people up, I think, in the United States who had guns.

Robert Kennedy talked about this. Is it the reason why we got out of COVID? Because when I said that, I told him years ago, If you ever run for president, I'm going to support you no matter what. And I do. He's a great thinker and a wonderful man and really wants to help educate people and get people healthy. I don't agree with everything he says, but who does? The point is we agree on enough. We can't just go Republicans, Democrats. If you're willing to work with us on this issue, I'll work I don't care about what- Amen.

I agree.

You're crazy as something else. And so I'm willing to work with him and to move this forward. I said, But the guns, here's the thing. The only reason we got out of COVID was because there are at least 400 million guns in America, and the government can only push its citizenry so far. And I said, that is something that I, as someone who grew up in California, didn't understand that. I understood it pretty quickly during tyranny, where the people could shut you down, where a governor could say, You can no longer open your business. Even though, scientifically, you can't. There was no science behind it, and it never had been. And so they were allowed to do that. And the fact that there has been no legislatures that have restricted the government's executive powers to prevent that from happening again is worrisome. And I said, they could turn it off at any minute. So I do think that because of that situation, because of COVID, because people saw the COVID tyranny, and now it's been exposed that there was no reason for the six feet of distance is all was just made up by Fauci and his cronies over there who were all paid by the pharmaceutical industry.

My friends have come around to go, maybe Rob's not so crazy. I've been friends who go, you know what? I didn't realize we just thought you were nuts, but now they've come around.

When did your view start changing and why?

I've always questioned things. I hate to say this, but I've always been a contrarian. Why do we have to do that? That sucks. Let's do something else. I grew up with my dad. My dad set an example for just a troublemaker. So I This way, I didn't start out. Comedians aren't intellectuals. We're de facto intellectuals. We got forced into it because everybody else got demonized and silenced. Academics were like, they couldn't talk about stuff, scientists and doctors. And comedians can still get on stage and still talk about it. So these Other people got signed, so we have to step into that vacuum. It's true. I just do what I can. I'm this college dropout. No, but that's...

I mean, it's Dave Schiappa becomes a leading public intellectual. Exactly.

I saw him in 2016 because I go, What is happening here? What is this? I'm going to go see a show, and there was two shows happening. There was the show of his show, which was brilliant. Then there was a show of the audience looking at him. Well, that was another show because they were looking at him, Please make sense of the world for me, please, because it's not making sense anymore. And he would. And it's like, and that changed me. And I realized, Well, that's the way direction to go. And that was 2016. So my dad was a guy who would He was friends with this IRS guy who used to be high up in the IRS. I can't say his name. My publisher- Good friend to have. Yeah. He said, because my dad was pissed off, he had to pay these taxes, which were much higher in the late '60s than they are now. Yeah. Very high. It was crazy higher than now. People think about, I got to pay tax. They were higher. They're like '60s in the '60 percentile. And he said, God, I'm pissed. He said, So what happens? I get audited every year because he had a private business, basically private little bank.

And he said, What do you do when the IRS agent comes over? He said, Well, I give him his own room and I give him a box and a cup of coffee, whatever they need. He said, Don't do that. So what do you mean? Just give him a box. Put the stuff on the floor. Put the stuff on another box and said, Bring the kids over. Let them play and run around the room. He said, He'll be gone in an hour.

Don't make it easy for him to harass you.

He said, Yeah, just have the kids run around. Don't make it comfortable. Too comfortable. We would run around. I couldn't believe because my dad would never let me run around when there's people in the office. I got this people. He said, Just play, do what you want. My brother was like, What? Really? It was a disaster. We're running around, and then breaking stuff and all this stuff. My dad was like, I said, This is different. I didn't understand what it was until now. It's a little years later. But that was my dad's way. Giving it back to the man in some small, fun way where he can get a laugh out of it. My dad used to love to laugh and get laughs out of situations in whatever way he could. I guess some of that rubbed off.

Did they stop auditing him?

Not as much. They were definitely quicker. But he was a genius with math. My dad was a math genius. Before a calculator, he just figured it out. I couldn't believe what he would do.

Did he live to see your career?

He lived, thankfully, he got to see a movie might become a big hit. It was like, he called me and left a message on my machine. He said, Well, Robbie, I think you finally got a hit on your hands here. I went to the theater, San Bruno. Two theaters had your movie, two, and they're both sold out. So I think you got a hit. My mom started getting the show business. She said, You know the Batman movie made 400 million, but their per screen average was higher because there was in 4,500 screens. So the per screen average, when you look at it, there's not as much as your movie. So they got into it quick, and they're very proud of me. So that was real then. My dad got to see that. He got to go and to be there, and he died a month later. But that was Just beautiful. He got to see that and go to a premiere. My dad dressed up. I got to sit next to him and my daughter, Al, on this side. It was just... That was beautiful. I missed those times and I missed the phone calls and calling and him checking in on me and go, Hey, dad, let me call you back.

He says, You always say that. Why can't you talk now? I wish I could have that conversation back. But those are beautiful times. To have that support of your father. That's why it's so important to support and love your kids unconditionally and give them to reflect God's love onto them. That's our job as a parent and in society. I fail. I fail at being the best person I could be, and I get angry. Sometimes I spout my mouth off. But when some people attack people that I care about, it really bothers me. I got to calm down.

So they always tell you it's the most important election of your lifetime. But of course, this one actually is. That's demonstrable. And it's also because it is so important being censored at every level by the tech companies. So we were thinking about this a couple of months ago, and we thought, why not get on the road live in front of actual people, live audiences, Coast to Coast, a nationwide tour where we can't be censored. That'd be good. It would also be fun. So we're doing it. We're going to be on stage with some of our friends, some of the most fascinating people we know, the most recognizable people we know, responding to what is happening in America this September in real all time. It'll be just like the podcast, but it's going to be live. So we're excited to announce our friend Larry Elder is coming to join us in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Our friend John Rich will be there with us in Sunrise, Florida. We're adding more stops. We just added another stadium show in Redding, Pennsylvania, will be joined on stage by Alex Jones. They tell you what Alex Jones is like. Have you seen him in person?

You should make up your own mind. It's going to be fun as hell and interesting and intense, and we hope you will join us. Go to tuckercarlson. Com right now to get your tickets. See you there. You got cut off. You were talking about Canada and the tyranny there. Obviously, lots of great Canadian people. I knew you would agree, but the country's in turmoil. It's an authoritarian country. But You were punished by the Canadians for telling you naughty jokes.

I was. They really went after me, and it hurt not at all. I loved it. I remember my favorite thing was because it was accused of being transphobic It's just to fill in the blank, whatever you are. So you could tell jokes. The fact of the matter is, if we're just going to throw biological reality out, the truth, it could be not nice, but it's never hateful. No. The fact that... And I said, I did some jokes about that I do my stand-up back. If I had a son and if he sucked at sports like I did and I wanted him to be a champion in victory, I said, Well, just go. I said, Listen, it's not nice, but just go tell him. I want you to feel... You're losing all the guys. I want you to go and tell the coach that you're a girl. No, that's the best part. You get to keep your dick. You can keep the whole thing. It doesn't matter. No, just tell them. Then they have to accept you. You just say it. You just say it. I said, Then you win, then you do this thing. Anyway, it gets big laughs, but it's also like, that's what thing they complained about.

People were laughing at that outrageous humor.

The Canadians were mad that the audience laughed?

So one guy who was the same guy and all the complaining. I remember they were really laughing, and then they got quiet because they're too polite. Canadians are too polite. They don't want to hurt anybody's feelings, which ends up hurting everybody's feelings because then you end up having some guy who loves China running your country. Exactly. It hires China. It's important to speak up and speak freely and say when you're countryman, I have nothing to apologize to you, Canada, about. If you know what? I will consider an apology, consider it when you apologize for what you did to those truckers. That ugliness of not supporting those people who were risking everything to drive all the way across the country, shut the country down so that this tyranny could end. It was a powerful It was a movement to stand there and let your government officials call them terrorists. Yes.

That is- And put them in prison, which they did. Disgraceful. It is.

Disgraceful. When you make that official apology, I'll talk about how I felt and why I did certain jokes. I have no apologies to you at all. I'm glad I did it. I'll do it again if you let me back in the country.

Which I assume they won't.

I will not be allowed back in the country. Just for hate speech, for jokes.

You're not allowed to late night TV either.

I don't get invited to a place. Do you care? No. Why would I? As I said, it got on Twitter and then Fox News, of course, which I said, Much late night TV is just a political indoctrination with comedic imposition. It no longer resembles comedy as much as cheering on the rhetoric and attacking a particular one half of the country. When I saw the dancing syringes, I was like, oof.

But you know all those. That's the weird thing is you know all those guys, I assume, because you lived in that world.

I know most of them, but it's easy to... God bless them, and I hope that they can come around to become more independent in their thinking. Because you can literally replace the dialog. I the jokes from one late night guy to the next guy, and then put them in the mouth of this guy. It's just there's no individual point of view because it is really ideologically captured and trapped. I hope that they would realize that that's limiting. I would hope that you didn't... You realize- Limiting?

Soul destroying.

I don't think it's good. I think people have woken up to it and go like, That's not representative of our country. I think it's a job to question authority no matter who's in authority. Exactly. To question made Saturday Night Live at its best, truthfully, was trying to make our friends laugh and question authority, make fun of authority, no matter who's in charge. I remember we were making fun of Bill Clinton. We had Julius Sweeni played Hillary. I must have played- Monica Lewinsky. No, she played the daughter, Chelsea. I remember like, You can't go after somebody's kid. How dare? I'm like, Well, it's a kid. She just put braces on. So There seemed to be like an outrage with liberals. They don't have as good a sense of humor. They just... Well, I should say this. I'm sorry. They're more sensitive, and they get outraged, and they don't like it.

But at the time, the Saturday Night Live did it anyway.

Yeah, they did, and they're coming back to it. I really think that they're making fun of Biden they have, and they got a good crew there, really talented new group. It's an institution. And like any institution, whether it's a particular late night show or a network or Saturday Night Live, any institution is going to be susceptible to this ideological clap trap. And it is, but it's also you can understand it. And I think as I was angry about it. I have to come to it from a place of peace and understanding. If I'm going to help it, if I'm going to participate in this culture, I have to come from a place of understanding. It doesn't come naturally to me, but I got to come from a place of understanding, tolerance, forgiveness, and empathy. And it's hard to fight against that. When you are getting this, you can only talk about this, and everything's got to attack half of the country, and they are susceptible to that. And hopefully, they'll realize Because the ratings are getting smaller. The number one guy is a very funny Greg Gutfeld. My buddy Jamie Lisle goes on the show all the time.

That's the number one show. So if it's about ratings, it's about money, well, then think about the money. I think eventually, Hollywood, if they're anything, they're whores, and they will do what makes money. You think that Sony Pitchers wants to have a Christian division? They didn't care about that, but they do now. Why? Because people like Angel Jules' studios are making money non-traditionally, and they didn't see that coming. When Mel Gibson made Passion of the Christ, they tried to destroy that.

Oh, I remember very, very well. They hated him for that.

They did not take him out. That became the first real internet sensation, and they couldn't stop it.

He's a tough man.

He can take it because he has a faith in God. Catholicism is the closest to the original words of Jesus, and that's why it works for me. There's a film that I want to make about the Shroud of Turin. The Shroud of Turin is the burial cloth of Jesus of Nazareth. It is. The fact that the stirp scientists tested it in the wrong place and didn't put quantified that there is these French nuns who were trying to repair in the 16th century their lord's burial cloth, and that they would do this French thing, this French weave called an invisible weave, and that altered the findings of the testing of the carbon dating. And so there's this beautiful movie that we want to make, and I'm going to make that. And it's just expensive to make movies. And obviously, I don't find myself in the good graces of Hollywood right now. But luckily, there are enough people who want to bring a message of healing.

Are you going to approach Disney with that movie?

No.

You don't think Disney is going to come around anytime soon?

You know, it's so funny when I got the Disney channel, my ego was like, maybe they have on the Disney channel to have the hot check, and they would never make that movie now. And I started telling them, they didn't have it on there. But it's on Amazon Prime, baby. So Disney also is another organization that caught up. And what Sounds good. Social justice. The equity. Well, equity. Yeah, whatever it is. But what equity is, is a grievance. It's people like, I want this and the idea that somehow we're going to get the same outcomes, and they're guaranteed. It was like Kamala Harris's dog whistle now is this equity thing. If we don't have, as Tomas Soul says, if we don't have the same outcomes in the same family. How are we going to have that in society? We have to have a meritocracy. We have to have the best people, and we have to have some sanity. But Disney, no, they're not going to make that movie. And I hope that they do well. It's a company that I worked for many, many years ago. It's a best brand in show business. I will tell you a funny story that when I was there, I think Bob Iger had just taken over from a great man.

I really loved Eisner. He's the one who turned that company around. And He's a fan of my movies. I love the guy, of course. But when Iger came in, and then I was still there, and you know you're out when the new regime comes in.

Yeah, I've been there.

It's for a few months. It's been a few months. And they were talking about the movies. And unfortunately, I was involved at the regime. I wasn't making a lot of money for movies at that time. We were on our way out. We all knew it. And then there was a meeting with the board of directors, and I think Senator Mitchell was one of the on the board, and they said, Iger said, Well, this is what they looked in the boat. Well, the boats made 18 million last year profit, and then the the parks made this, made 34 million profit. Why? Why the movies? They lost money. Why do we need to make these movies? Let's just not make movies. Just do the boats. He said, Well, Mr. Secretary, I think the movies are what get people on the boat.

So US senators aren't the best judges of- No, surprisingly, aren't the best judges of what movies should be made for children and their families.

I hope Disney comes around. They see what happens when they get too woke. They get spanked. They get spanked. That's a company that I got to root for, and I got to hope that they ride the ship. And money has a strange way. That's the thing about America, people come from all over in America, whatever they believe system. America is a wonderful seductiveness about working your butt off, you get successful making money. And so we've had a wonderful check and balance here, usually with what makes the most money. Let's keep doing that.

Yes.

So I would hope that Disney writes its ship and gets away from this, trying to endocrine our children. How awful is that? Depressing. It was really bummer that the fact that my wife and I would have to watch the movies first before we let our kids... The last few years, we have to watch the movie first before we let our kids see it. Let's just check it first. My parents never did that to me. They took me to see The Godfather, Sonny Corleone. They didn't ask me, How did you deal with that? They didn't want to get a babysitter. But we would watch these movies just to make sure... Well, my wife would. She does most 90% of the child rearing. And to make sure that they're not getting any stuff that we don't want them to have. Yes. That's That's not okay. That's not good for their business. It's not good for society. To like, you're putting out stuff there that is undermining a traditional family.

I'm trying to destroy the lives of kids. I mean, that's pretty dark.

It doesn't get any worse than that.

How would you rate Trump, not politically, not personally, but from a comedy standpoint?

Well, I met him a few times. Nice guy. I liked him. You think he's funny? Very likable. Absolutely. That's the thing about it. It's like, you have a guy who's genuinely has a sense of humor. He tries to make jokes. And then the jokes are like, he said this. Will he be a dictator on day one? But then that's okay. It's a joke. He's joking. He doesn't need it. He's like, no, he's going to be. So he's got to be super careful. That's why I feel sorry for anybody in the public eye. And unfortunately, during COVID, he listened to the wrong people, and he trusted the wrong people. But I think he learned from that. And I think this time, hopefully, I don't think I don't think he's going to make that mistake. I hope not. I hope he doesn't just put in the bankers in charge of the banks and then the pharma people in charge of the CDC and the FDA. I'm hopeful. But I think anybody who doesn't need it, who would I be? I wouldn't want to run for president.

No chance.

But he's subjecting himself to this? I mean, wow, that's rough. And I admire anybody who wants to serve their country in the capacity. If you think about traditionally with John Adams, to be a doctor, an attorney, the highest thing he could be was to be a public servant and go into politics. That's what he felt was his highest calling. I think we've moved away from that now. I want what's best for this country. I do think I like governments that are less, administrations, I should say, that are less confident so that they don't want to go around and start more wars, blow up the world. And I think we're at a time, financially, in this country, you just can't keep spending another trillions and trillions of dollars and expect this just to be magically taken care of. This is an issue. This is a real problem. And this administration, and the same thing with the Republicans in Congress, this Ukraine war has to end. We had to get out of it. Whether it's Robert Kennedy, who's a great guy, or whether Trump gets in and we have to end this war because it's different than just these skirmishes and smashing up parts of the world, which is also awful.

What they did with Obama and Hillary Clinton administration did to Libya was just dreadfully awful. And you could saw that- Killed all those people for no reason at all. For no reason. And then what's happening in Europe and the people who are leaving, and it's still a mess there. That is something that's a war crime. That's a human rights violation. And we got to stop this war because this guy has the most nuclear weapons. And I'm not going to say he's going to use it.

We might.

But if you push, you keep poking a bear in the eye enough, that bear is going to lash out and do something. And over 350,000 Russians have died, at least in this war. That's like seven, eight Vietnam's for us, over a 19-year period for us. They lost more people in World War II. They're the ones that won.

I don't know.

World War II. They had 20 million people. They know what that sacrifice is, and they're not going to bend for this. We have to. It's not going to be perfect. In any divorce, Ukraine is not going to get everything they want. Russia is not going to get everything they want, but there has to be a cessation of human carnage. This has to stop. And whatever we got to do to do that, whoever administration is going to do that. And the Republicans also have spinelessly, Senator Senator Graham is just a warmongering weasel. We have to... These people need to be kicked out of office, even if they're replaced by a party that I'm not fond of right now. We got to get rid of these people. And if you are for war, get rid of them, vote them out. If you find out who your senator and congressmen are voting for so that we can end this and stop it.

As a Christian, what do you make of politicians who call themselves Christians and then cheerlead and vote to fund that doesn't help anyone, that results only in killing? That doesn't seem like a Christian position to me.

They are hypocrites. They are hypocrites because not only are they continuing the slaughter, but they're also financially benefiting from it. So you have like... I mean, at least in some ways, the cat's out of the bag. Biden, what's left of Biden, admitted that the money is not leaving the country. It's just going down the street to the pharmaceutical... I mean, sorry, to the military Industrial complex. Raytheon has got these hundred billions. Don't worry. No, let us worry. Let us worry very much that we are exporting this murder, that we are exporting the slaughter and the taxpayers, and then the congressmen also can invest in this. Congressmen, senators can make money off the slaughter. That is truly evil.

I agree with you completely.

So we need to stop that and hopefully this new election will bring about an end to it. It's got to stop. We can't let it spread and we can't let it fester, and it's not going to be perfect, but no divorce, no end of war is, but it has to stop.

I want to circle back to where it began, which is your conversion or your evolution through Christianity, Catholicism. How did that happen?

Well, there's two beautiful things. One is to know that there is far too many stars in the sky that are necessary for the universe to continue. It seems to be, and there's far too much spermazoon flowers for flowers to continue. They don't need to be that beautiful color. There seems to be an exuberance in creation. There's just too much. There seems to be a celebration, a celestial woopy, as Alan Watts would say. That's a really beautiful thing. There's too much exuberance in nature.

I love that.

There's definitely a joyfulness to all of it. It's like, wow, look at that. Sometimes you look up at the clouds and you go like, that's as beautiful as anything that Monet could have ever made. It's temporary, and everything is temporary. That's But when you realize that the pyramids are at their half life, 5,000 years, and in 5,000 years, there'll be dust, and they go like, wow, how much more so us? If you think, if our works, whatever we do, If you think our good works are but dirty rags in the face of the Lord, how much more our pride, our vanity? That came to me by having children and the incredible beauty and gift that they are and how they see the world and that their eyes point out to see everything, and that they know that they're connected to everything, and they have to be taught that there's a separation between them and their mother. This is something that they just naturally, they know they're a part of everything. When the astronauts look back from the moon, if they ever went, they saw one thing.

If they had gone.

If they had gone on the set that they were on. Where they were shown a picture of- In L'Oréal Canyon, I think. They saw the picture of Earth, and they saw one thing, and we're that one thing. Then at the same time, when this is coming to me, my beautiful children are having a second chance at to be the father, to be a better father this time, a more present father, to see the rise of evil in the world and to be concerned about that and to know that now is the time to be courageous. Now is the time for people to step up and say injustice, whether it's the current attack on women, whether it's the educational system, not educating kids. I say, take your kids out of college right now. Now is not the time to let your kids come. How much do you have to hate your kids to send them to Harvard undergrad right now?

I agree completely.

The business schools are great. Don't them? Still going good. They're all conservative, too, 80%. You see a rise in evil, and you have to know that this is happening. I've been very blessed that I got to meet some people who educated me about evil. In a meeting Dr. M. Scott Peck, when I was a young man, and reading his books about this first self-health book was his. It was The Road Less Traveled. It was a book about how to be a better person, how to grow as a human being, spiritually, and not take the easy road of just repetitive behavior or just not learning, not growing, but take the harder road, becoming a better person, learning, loving, being tolerant, being forgiving, being patient, which is you could easily see how he transitioned into Christianity because he was a Christian without saying. He was just already had the the followings of Jesus in his heart. And so it was a natural opening. And he had a very interesting story about him, about how he was the doctor in the murder, the Massacre of Myli, which is the Vietnam Massacre in the late '60s. And he was assigned as a psychologist by the army, the US Army, to figure out the psychological makeup of the Company Baker who did the massacre.

And So he did. It was very interesting, his findings. One thing is the only reason what we ever learned about the massacre of Myla was because the helicopter pilot who witnessed it flying above couldn't live with it anymore. And so a year later to the day, he confessed and just said, Well, this is what happened. These people were massacred. And so during that psychological evaluation, which the Army never released. He said that these people were people. It wasn't like this particular company had members in it that had some grievances and that they had other issues and problems, and some of them maybe had joined the army to avoid this or that or were in prison or whatever. And then that also was just one aspect of it. The other aspect of it is that they were being in a war that wasn't as much support back home. They were going through and they were getting sniped at by the enemy, sniper fire, and they were killing their friends. They weren't able to get the enemy. They weren't able to get them. They just kept happening. And by the time they got to a village, they said, Where is it?

Where is it? Where are they? And this is something that's interesting because it reflected on my childhood, because Asian people, when they are nervous, when they are frightened, they laugh. That is true when all my relatives, when they are nervous or when they laugh, that's their go-to thing. So when the Vietnamese people who were having guns pointed at them were nervous and afraid, they laughed. And these people went ballistic at that point and just murdered the entire village, just murdered them all, killed them all. And so he did this and handed it in, and the army never released it. So moving further, He wrote a book about... After he became a Christian and then wrote a book about healing human evil called People of the Lie. It's a short book, but very good book about evil, and it's important now to identify and to help heal human evil. It's a fascinating book, but it helps you identify people in your life and people who are capable and who are And evil does exist. And we need to arm ourselves with God and arm ourselves with knowledge so we can protect ourselves for what's a rise in evil.

The last chapter of the book, well, one of the chapters, which is really stunningly awful, was this one kid who was depressed, and he went to go see Dr. M. Scott Peck, and he found out that his brother had killed himself. And He realized this is a really good kid, and he's depressed, obviously. His brother killed. Then he found out that for a birthday present, his parents gave him a gun. He was just absolutely stunned. But It wasn't just that. It was the same gun that his brother killed himself with. There was a realization, and he talked to the parents and realized these were evil people. That potentiality for human evil, we need to recognize and help heal, protect ourselves, protect our families. The last chapter on it, which is a demonic and Satanic possession. It was like, I'm reading this book. It's three o'clock in the morning at this point. I'm starting to freak out like this. But he postulated this theory. He said, The people who seem to be possessed seem to be very angelic people that this entity is trying to overtake, and they're fighting back for it to free themselves. Even evil, it has to succumb to the will of Jesus Christ and must submit to it.

The theory that he postulates, well, this is somebody who's fighting back. Therefore, it makes sense that there are people who don't fight back and just accept it and go with that. That demonic possession becomes complete. I think we have to We have to know that that's something that exists as real human evil, whatever you want to call it. What Dr. M. Scott Peck in the bigger picture tried to explain was that, obviously, science and theology had to split at a certain point to survive because theology was crushing science. When you have... When Copernicus discovers that the sun is a solar, the beginning of the middle of our solar system, not the Earth, and it's not part of the church doctrine, that has to be recanted. Obviously, science had this split. So you had the laws of nature culture, which is just, they just took the lawmaker out. And it's still the laws. It's like we have theological laws. So when you have that separation, what Dr. M. Scott tried to do is to bring it back together. So when somebody's like a murderer or somebody's bad, In science, medicine, you call them sick. Theologically, you call them evil.

They're one and the same. So in the attempt to cure human evil, I think it makes us we need to do both and to work together. I think through bringing people closer to God, bringing our nation, which was founded under God, I think we have a chance to heal our nation because there is a rise in evil, and I think we all see it.

It sounds like you're saying the rise in evil turned you toward God.

Well, I think both bookends. The beauty of it and my children and the beauty of seeing what God's gifts are, and there's so many. But also to be You have to recognize that this, whether it's a cycle or what happens, that there is evil. There seems to be a rise in evil in the world, what's happening. Just like in Europe in the 1920s, the New York Times called these small group of people, a bunch of misfits, and nothing will ever come of them, the National Socialists. I think we need to be very careful how we move. I believe the United States must continue to be the guide for the world as an example of freedom, not perfect freedom, not in a perfect society by any stretch, but a one that aims for equality, that aims to be able to express itself, which in free speech is the beacon call for freedom in the world. Nobody's swimming away from America. They're not trying to get out. They're trying to get in for a reason because this is the greatest experiment in freedom in human history and continues to be. We must fight and be vigilant. Now is the time for courage to protect it.

That's why I wrote this book.

What an amazing conversation. Rud. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you for having me, Tucker. I feel like I owe you for therapy. Let me see how much money I got on this.

For therapy.

Oh, this has been a great-I sat silent like a good shrink, just taking notes, which I'm going to file away. I'm sorry.

There's trouble with his mother.

I have a lot of you. Robert, what are you doing? Put that down, Robert. Robert, stop messing around. Stop, Robbie. See what happens? I grew up with that. See what happens? You fell down, you hurt yourself. See what happens?

Did your siblings become comedians, by the way?

No, they came a very good audience. They did. They did, yeah. That's sweet. My sister, she's my favorite laugh. My dad was the best. He had a great laugh. My mother would laugh at the right time, every time. Then she'd go, What does it mean? What does he say?

But she was laughing because she was nervous and afraid.

Well, she was laughing because everybody else was. I'm sure she was nervous. But she would laugh and to be polite. I mean, that's the thing. Filipinos are the nicest people.

They really are.

They even have a country not even named after anything Filipino. It's named after King Philip. They don't even want to change it. No, we're good. But it's nothing Filipinos. What about this cultural appropriate? No, it's okay. We like it. We're used to it.

They're a great combination of sweet and tough. They were tough under the Japanese. Really tough. They're tough. They never stopped fighting.

No. They're tough and they love America. I know. You will not go to a home in Manila, and you won't find in one of the homes there, you will find a picture of General MacArthur. You will find it for sure. They love America. When I was there in 1972, a little boy, I'll never forget, they still had the bayonets of the Marines, American Marines who died. They still had the bayonets there with the helmet on it. They were still taking care of it every day. It was like this is 1972. It was absolutely stunning. But that's how much, that's how grateful they were for the sacrifice. For some other people coming from another country to save them? Yeah.

From true oppression, the Japanese were... I love Japan, but the Japanese were... Imperial Army was very harsh.

Un unbelievably brutal. And But you know that they thought themselves as liberators. That's why they hated the Filipinos. That's why they didn't take them prisoner. During the Bata'an Death March, my uncle was a soldier. If you fell down, they just killed you. The Japanese killed maybe upwards of 70,000 Filipinos. Nobody knows. Nobody knows how many because they didn't take them prisoners because they were fellow Asians that were fighting against them. So they took umbrage to that. So they wouldn't take them prisoners. They didn't like the whole idea of it. So that brutality for such an incredible culture.

It is an incredible culture.

An incredible people in a beautiful, clean, organized, wonderful country. But just let you know that there's no country that is not susceptible to do horrible things and to perpetuate evil in the world. We have to be a buttress to it, to really think about our actions and to make sure that we're coming from a place of reflection and that we're doing the work of God. This country is a good country. I love this country. I will fight for this country. I want to raise my kids in this country. There's no other place to go. It's like, we'll just go to this other place. This is it. This is the last stand for freedom in the world. This is it. We're staying. We're going to fix. We're going to fight, and we're not going anywhere. I want to make sure whatever time I have left, and God willing, that God has given me my health and a beautiful family, whatever time I have, I want to make sure that the potentiality, the potential for my kids to have the same, to live their dreams, this crazy kid, Filipino, Jew, and have a chance to live his dreams, get on Saturday Night Live and say, Live from New York on Saturday Night, and to make movies that my dad could see.

I just What an amazing country this is. How beautiful. My mother, she never thought of herself. She only said, I was American. My father was an American. Her father was an American soldier. She didn't meet until she was older. She came to San Francisco by accident. But she said, I love this country. Don't anybody ever say anything bad about this country, ever. I love this country. She did with a passion. People who come here from other countries, they get it.

Yeah, I know.

They understand what an incredible, unique society and what this offers. That was drilling to my head.

You said you wanted to end on a prayer?

Yes, I would. I'd like to end I'd like to end on something that my friend said right before this new flap in the media about me. He said, What an incredible coincidence. And there is no coincidence. Everything's meant. This is a reflection for the day. August 10th. We've been our own worst enemies most of our lives, and we've often injured ourselves seriously as a result of a justified resentment over a slight wrong. Doubtless, there are many causes for resentment in the world, most of them providing justification. But we can never begin to settle all the world's grievances or even arrange things so as to please everybody. If we've been treated unjustly by others or simply by life itself, we can avoid compounding the difficulty cruelty by completely forgiving the persons involved and abandoning the destructive habit of reviewing our hurts and humiliations. So I would say, Thank you for this time. Thank you for this time, Jesus, and allowing me to speak my mind with this wonderful conversation and with my new friend, Tucker, and God bless this great country and protect our children. God bless my daughter, and God bless all the daughters and all the people that are having problems in the world.

We thank you for all these opportunities that you give us. In Jesus' name we pray, in the name of the Father, the Son, the Holy spirit. Amen.

Amen.

Thank you. Thank you.

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