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Hi, I'm Daniel Tosh, host of a new podcast called Tosh Show. I'll be interviewing people that I find interesting, so not celebrities and certainly not comedians. We'll be covering topics like religion, travel, sports, gambling, but mostly it will be about being a working mother. If you're looking for a podcast that will educate and inspire or one that will really make you think, this isn't the one for you. Listen to Tosh Show on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.

My name is Paine-Lindsey. Throughout my career, I've had the chance to travel all over the place investigating true crimes, researching the unexplained, and I've been able to meet some of the most truly interesting people. I've decided to sit down with them and pick their brains. We're going to talk about life, death, unsolved crimes, the supernatural. There's something here. Truly something going on. Honestly, just whatever the hell is on our minds. Wait a minute. You should be very happy. You want? This is Talking to Death, new episodes of Talking to Death are available now. Listen on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It's November 29th, 1963, seven days after the assassination of President Kennedy. The White House is in chaos. Lyndon Johnson is now President, having been sworn in on Air Force One while it was still on the ground at Dallas Love Field.

That moment's become memorialized in an iconic photo that shows Jackie Kennedy standing at his side with the blood of her dead husband, splattered on her pink suit.

A week into his job, President Johnson is sitting behind the desk in the Oval Office. He's fielding calls from world leaders who want to know what's going on. He's holding the hands of politicians, assuring everyone that it will not throw off the global balance of power, that World War Three is not imminent. The country needs to know that they're in safe hands.

They need answers. The man suspected of murdering the President has just been murdered, too.

On the news, on live TV by a two-bit nightclub owner named Jack Ruby. Everyone wants to know who is responsible for all this. President Johnson is concerned about the attention that a public investigation would bring. He gets a call from the head of the FBI, J. Edgar Hoover, who will be leading the initial investigation. Hoover wants to keep it contained. I think it would be.

Very, very.

Bad to have a rash. Hoover is saying that it would be bad to have a rash of investigations, but that's exactly what started to happen. There were rumblings in the House and Senate about forming committees to expand on the FBI's investigation. Johnson wants to shut it down. Tell the.

House and Senate not to go ahead with.

The.

Investigation.

Yes, because we get up there and get a bunch of.

Television going and I thought it'd be bad.

It'd be a three-ring circus.

Rob, what's at stake here?

Well, if it's discovered that Kennedy's assassination was somehow connected to the Soviets or the Cubans, it could trigger a nuclear Holocaust. Another reason they want to keep a tight lid on the investigation is because they're afraid that a broad investigation would expose the CIA and the FBI. In another attempt to limit the investigation, this document I'm holding is considered by many to be a smoking gun. I'm going to let Dick Russell explain.

This memo was hidden from the public for a decade after the assassination. It's referred to as the Katzenbach memo. Nicholas Katzenbach was the deputy attorney general. He wrote the memo to Hoover just a few days after the murder.

Here's what the document says.

Quote.

The public must be satisfied that Oswold was the assassin, that he did not have Confederates who are still at large, and that the evidence was such that he would have been convicted at trial. Speculation about Oswold's motivation ought to be cut off.

It says that the goal of the investigation is to convince people of a specific predetermined result. Two days after the assassination. These are marching orders from the official investigation into the assassination of President Kennedy. If Oswalt had been allowed to stand trial, his lawyers would have had a field day with a statement like that. This was not an investigation. It was a fail-to-complete.

This is Who Killed JFK. 60 years later, what can we uncover about the greatest murder mystery in American history? And why does it still matter today? I'm your host, Soledad O'Brien. To recap.

Jfk reputedly threatens to splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces, then fires Dulles and his top two lieutenants. He completely goes around the military-industrial complex to avoid World War III during the Cuban missile crisis, and then he starts a back channel with Khrushchev and Fidel Castro. Then at American University, he publicly proclaims that he wants to forge a new path towards peaceful coexistence. He's alienating a lot of incredibly powerful and determined people.

Then he's murdered.

Then he's murdered.

We're deep into the murder mystery. Now, Rob has just handed me this letter where J. Edgar, Hoover, head of the FBI, is basically advising that they make sure to pin it all on Oswalt.

Of course, President Johnson sent a completely different message to the country.

He put out an executive order in 1963 that said the commission would, quote, evaluate all the facts and circumstances surrounding such assassination. President Johnson called on Earl Warren, the chief justice of the Supreme Court, to head up the investigation. Warren initially said no, but Johnson then bullied him into it, telling him the nuclear war was hanging in the balance. Warren eventually said yes. Years later, he said he regretted it.

President Johnson and J. Edgar Hoover came up with a strategy on how to handle the investigation. Here's President Johnson. I hope the only way we can.

Stop him is put.

Somebody that's the pretty.

Good on it that I could select.

Out of the government. He's saying the only way to stop them is to put somebody that's pretty good on it that I can select out of the government. He's saying the only way to stop them is to put somebody that's pretty good on it that I can select out of the government. What do you think about Alan Dulles? I think he would be a good man. Johnson suggests Alan Dulles. Hoover says he'd be a good man. They figure they can make it work for them if they appoint someone they can trust.

He suggested Alan Dulles, the man Kennedy fired after the Bay of Pigs. He's known as the godfather of the CIA.

Alan Dulles's role on the Warren Commission was not to find the truth, was to cover up the truth.

That's David Talbot. Rob says that if we're going to talk about Alan Dulles, you have to speak to David Talbot. He's the founder of Salon Magazine. He literally wrote the book on Dulles. It's called The Devil's Chessboard.

Do you think that it's an accident that Alan Dulles was put in charge of being the gatekeeper to the Warren Commission? No, I believe that he lobbied to be put on that commission. There is no better figure from a cover-up point of view to have on that commission than Alan Dulles. He leaked stuff to the press, to the CIA. He essentially led them down the Primrose Path, said that Lee Harvey Oswold act alone.

So after the Bay of Pigs, Kennedy fires him. Why is he on the commission?

That was surprising. There was no discussion in the media. There's no controversy around his appointment. The media heralded Alan Dulles as a very respected figure above politics. Nothing could be further from the truth.

This was a moment in history when the general public didn't question the government in the same way we do today. In 1964, 77% of Americans said they trusted the government to, quote, do the right thing. In 2023, that number's 16%. American exceptionalism was in full force, and the media was not intent on bringing that down. You can't help but wonder what they could have uncovered if they just been looking.

The Warren Commission publishes its report in 1964, and they do essentially what they set out to do. They pin it all on Oswold. Case closed. There were a few journalists who started poking around at the Warren Report just because they thought it was odd, but some came into it accidentally, like Gayton Fonzy.

There's quite a bit about Fonsey in the archives, thanks in part to his wife, Marie, who continues to tell his story today. In the 1960s, Gayton Fonsey was an investigative journalist for Philadelphia Magazine. Fonzy, like most Americans, was shocked and saddened by the loss of Kennedy, but it wasn't something that was on his radar as a journalist.

A year after the report was published, Arling Specter, who had made a name for himself as a member of the Warren Commission, returned to Philadelphia. He ran for district attorney, and he won. Fonzy thought it would be a good piece to be written among Specter returning home after his time on the Warren Commission.

Arlin Specter is largely known for creating something called the single-bullet theory.

Yeah, I know all about the single-bullet theory.

Right, and we will dig into the science and the forensics of that later on. But for now, all you need to know is that the single-bullet theory is the backbone of the Warren Commission report. Without the single-bullet theory, you cannot pin the crime on Oswald alone. Now, just to give you an idea of what this is, the Commission made a contention that only three shots were fired. The first one missed, that left two shots hitting President Kennedy. The third shot was the fatal shot to his head. The second shot, that was the single bullet. And because Governor Connolly, who was sitting in front of Kennedy, was also shot, that single bullet had to travel through Kennedy's neck, then hit Connolly in the back, go through to his wrist, and wind up in his thigh.

So Gaiton Fonzy is preparing for his interview. He comes across Specter's single-bullet theory. He starts looking into it, and as you can imagine, he finds several discrepancies. Then he confronts Specter in a series of interviews.

The interviews are hard to follow without getting too deep into the weeds of the single-bullet theory. But just know this. When Fonzy presses Specter about whether he factored eyewitness accounts into the construction of his theory, Specter responded by saying, That's a good question. You're the first person to ask me that question, and I have to think about it for a minute. Fonsey publishes his article in Greater Philadelphia magazine on August first, 1966.

He wrote, Arlin Specter knows it is difficult to believe some of the fundamental conclusions of the Warren Commission report. Well, it came out years later that Specter, the man responsible for investigating the source and path of the bullets, did not directly speak to the Secret Service agents riding in the car behind Kennedy, who had a clear view of the shots. He ignored the statements of several eyewitnesses, and he never looked at photos of the autopsy or was. He only looked at sketches.

Then he pieced his incomplete evidence together by manipulating the path of one single bullet into something that made absolutely no sense. The things he ignored or twisted to make his theory work is legendary, but it wasn't just Specter.

The whole investigation was a mess. They didn't interview Jack Ruby for nearly a year. Ruby even said that he would tell them everything if they moved him from Dallas to Washington, D. C, and they declined. They also didn't interview JFK's personal doctor, who was with Kennedy within minutes of him arriving at Parkland Hospital. Then when a witness approached with new information two months before they were supposed to publish, General Counsel J. Lee Rankin said, At this stage, we are supposed to be closing doors, not opening them. A Secret Service agent even offered a lead, and then that agent was thrown in jail. Investigators uncovered that Dulles had this habit of briefing the members of the Warren Commission on what questions to ask the CIA witnesses. He would brief the CIA witnesses and tell them what questions were coming and what to say. John McCone, who was director of the CIA at the time, even admitted that he lied to protect the agency during the Warren Commission's investigation.

In 2015, Politico reported that a declassified CIA report showed that McCone and other senior CIA officials were, quote, complicit in keeping, quote, incendiary information from the Warren Commission. The report says that McCone was at the heart of a, quote, benign cover-up at the spy agency. Didn't any of these things come out?

They almost did.

A few weeks before the Warren Commission report came out, one of the staffers wrote a memo to the lead investigator. The author was Wesley Leibler, and his memo was 26 pages long. It detailed the reasons he was uncomfortable with the way evidence was being used selectively to make sure Oswold was proven guilty. Well, the lead investigator refused to accept the memo.

Well, clearly this was not a serious investigation, and in the end, they found out exactly what they wanted to find out. They thought that the public was just going to buy it. That we would just accept the report because it was from people like Warren and Dulles, and that we would just move on with our lives.

When the Warren report came out, that was fall of 1964, polls showed that 56 % of Americans agreed with that lone gunman theory. Then only two years later, a new poll showed that that number dropped to 36 %. Only a third of Americans believed that Oswold acted alone. That's a huge drop in a very short period of time.

Yeah, but that doesn't surprise me. By then, the report was met with a lot of scrutiny. People started to talk about it publicly. In 1966, Mark Lane published his book, Rush to Judgment, and he was critiquing the Warrant Commission. It kickstarted public suspicion, which bubbled beneath the surface for 10 years until finally, in 1975, the story broke through.

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Hi, I'm Daniel Tosh, host of a new podcast called Tosh Show, brought to you by iHeart Podcast. Why am I getting into the podcast game now? Well, seemed like the best way to let my family know what I'm up to instead of visiting or being part of their incessant group text. I'll be interviewing people that I find interesting, so not celebrities and certainly not comedians. I'll be interviewing my plumber, my stylist, my wife's gynecologist. We'll be covering topics like religion, travel, sports, gambling, but mostly it will be about being a working mother. If you're looking for a podcast that will educate and inspire or one that will really make you think, this isn't the one for you. But it will be entertaining to a very select few because you don't make it to your mid 40s with IBS without having a story or two to tell. Join me as I take my place among podcast royalty like Joel Olstein and Lance Bass. Those are words I hope I'd never have to say. Listen to Tossho on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcasts.

In 1975, the church committee, headed up by Idaho Senator Frank Church, had just released a trove of documents exposing the CIA and other government officials of some very horrific abuses of power throughout the '60s.

The church committee hearings of 1975 revealed that there were at least three foreign assassination operations mounted by CIA officials in the 1960s against the leaders of Cuba, the Dominican Republic, and the Congo.

That's Jefferson Morley again, former Washington Post reporter and creator of JFKfax.

Org. The existence of an organized CIA capacity for political assassinations was revealed and convincingly without any doubt, well documented. That was the first time that the CIA was really called to account for these types of activities. It was the first time that the public ever knew that that's what the CIA was doing.

And then on March fifth, 1975, thanks to a stand-up comedian who appeared on an evening talk show, Everything Changed..

Good night, America.

How are you?

Dick Gregory is one of America's foremost comedians. His comedy doesn't just make people laugh, it makes them think as well. Please welcome Dick Gregory.

In 1975, Haroldo Rivera hosted a monthly show on ABC called Good Night America.

Now, if you can remember back, and be honest, to when all these theories about conspiracies first came out in the mid-60s, then we treated the researchers and the people doing this investigation as paranoid coops. I mean, let's be honest, that's the way it was. But now we've all lived through the Pentagon Papers, Watergate, dirty tricks, and even the allegations. I stress the point that there are only allegations that the CIA and the FBI, institutions that are so solid in American history and the fabric of American society have engaged in illegal operations against American citizens. Well, because of all that, I think that most people are now more willing to listen to opposing points of view. I think one thing is certain. There are just too many loose ends. John Kennedy was murdered, and we at least owe him the duty of doing everything possible to find out who all was involved. Now, possibly, just possibly, the Warren Commission was right. But what if it wasn't? As I started meeting various people that was looking for something else, I found out that there was a whole lack.

Of cult out.

Here that didn't.

Believe it. But we just kept looking and kept.

Waiting for the press.

That's comedian Dick Gregory. He was also suspicious of the Warren Report. So in the early '70s, he started going to these gatherings, like conferences where other doubters brought all their independent research in an attempt to piece it all together. In 1975, at one of these early conferences, Dick Gregory meets a young guy named Robert Grodin. Grodin is sitting on something incredible. He's got an original copy of this Zapruder film.

The Zapruder film is famously an eight-millimeter film shot by a local dressmaker named Abraham Zapruder. He just happened to be set up at Dealy Plaza with his camera and captured the whole thing on film.

In the film, you see everything that happens from when the motorbike turns on to Elm Street to the President getting shot and then the car speeding away down the underpass. There were a few other people filming that day, but nobody captured it quite as clearly as the Zepruiter. The Secret Service promised Zapruder that the film would only be used for an official investigation. It was quickly taken to a Kodak film processing facility in Dallas where it was developed and three copies were made. Two of the copies were handed off to the Secret Service and sent to Washington. The third copy of the film was given back to Zapruder.

The media caught wind, and immediately there was a bidding war for the rights to Zapruder's film. He eventually sold it to Life magazine for $150,000, a lot of money at the time. Life printed several still frames in their magazine. After the Warren Commission used the film for their investigation, they also published black and white stills. But the moving image was never shared with the public.

Then one day, Life magazine reached out to a film lab for a pretty standard contract job. We blew up eight millimeter home movies up to 35 millimeters so that we have professional grade that could be transferred to final print. But nobody else did the work. We did. Life magazine found out about it, and they wanted to see if the Zapruder film would hold resolution and clarity blowing up from 8 to 35.

That's Robert Groden. At the time, in 1971, he was a 26-year-old staff technician in the film lab. That day, the Zapruder film landed on his desk.

Well, they brought it to us. We did it. And surprise to say an extra copy was made they didn't know about. Groden was shocked by what he saw, and he made his own personal copy of the Zapruder film. That's what I released on the TV show Good Night America back in 1975.

I want to introduce another guest we have, Robert Groden, who is celebrating his 18th birthday on the 22nd of November in 1963. Robert, welcome. I wish you could set up the Zapruder film a bit for us, and we'll get right into it. Abraham Zapruder was a Dallas dress manufacturer, and it was pure accident that he brought the camera with him that day. He got what is frame-for-frame the most valuable historical document of all time.

I was scared out of my wits because I wasn't supposed to have the film in the first place. I was afraid to release it.

You became a whistleblower, really.

Yeah, that's exactly what I was.

I'm telling you right straight out that if you are at all sensitive, if you're at all queasy, then don't watch this film. It's the execution of President Kennedy. Okay, so the cars are coming along now into D. Lee Plaza. He is shot, then Governor is shot. Now, Jackie doesn't realize what's happened yet. She goes to.

His aide.

And now...

That's a live audience reacting to the fatal shot.

That's the shot that blew up his head. It's the most horrifying thing I've ever seen in-Now, the warren Commission said that all of the shots were fired from behind by Lee Harvey Oswald alone, assassin, firing at the President. And as you can see clearly, the head is thrown violently backwards, completely consistent with shot from the front.

The President's head goes back and to the left. There is no way that could happen if he was shot from behind.

This is the very first time the American public is seeing this footage.

Correct. And then, Dick Gregory closes the show with an incredible call to action.

I'm outraged over the fact that the American.

Press should be.

Doing what we are doing today. I would like to see the American press, even the press that say.

Everything we have is not true.

To come out and do the.

Research and.

Let the American people know, was it a trick? Was it a conspiracy?

And let's open up.

The Warren Report. Let's talk about a new investigation.

If we don't.

I think this country is going to be in.

A lot of trouble.

Amazingly, that's exactly what happened.

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Hi, I'm Daniel Tosh, host of a new podcast called Tosh Show, brought to you by iHeart Podcast. Why am I getting into the podcast game now? Well, seemed like the best way to let my family know what I'm up to instead of visiting or being part of their incessant group text. I'll be interviewing people that I find interesting, so not celebrities and certainly not comedians. I'll be interviewing my plumber, my stylist, my wife's gynecologist. We'll be covering topics like religion, travel, sports, gambling, but mostly it will be about being a working mother. If you're looking for a podcast that will educate and inspire or one that will really make you think this isn't the one for you. But it will be entertaining to a very select few because you don't make it to your mid 40s with IBS without having a story or two to tell. Join me as I take my place among podcast royalty like Joel Olstein and Lance Bass. Those are words I hope I'd never have to say. Listen to Toshow on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.

In 1976, after the Zapruder film aired on Good Night America, a new congressional committee, the House Select Committee on assassinations, officially reopened the case.

Gayden Fonzy was appointed to the committee. You'll remember him as the journalist who questioned Specter on the single-bullet theory. The commission also appointed Robert Groden to the investigation team.

I was more than happy to do it. I was very proud to be able to do it. There's a history to the House Committee. That history starts with a man named Richard Sprague. Richard Sprague was the original chief counsel, and he wanted to treat the assassination conspiracy as an unsolved murder. He was going to start from not assuming I was world-skilled, but going from beginning to end with what actually did exist. Dick Russell interviewed Richard Sprague in 1978.

Did you ever have the feeling that what.

You were dealing with as far as investigating the assassination of.

President Kennedy.

Went.

Beyond the.

Assassination itself.

And into very sensitive areas of intelligence?

Yes.

In.

What way? I was raising questions concerning the connections, if any, between Oswold and the CIA. I was raising questions as to whether the information that the CIA had presented, in fact, was reliable information. I'm making it clear at this same time that I would not sign any of the agreements with the CIA, the FBI, the FBI, the Justice Department, that other committees had saw.

Sprague not only had to sign a nondisclosure agreement, but he also had to give some control of his investigation over to the CIA and FBI.

I took the view that for this to be a thorough, hard-hitting, impartial investigation, they could not control the staff. Secondly, they could not control that which gets disclosed. The purpose of the investigation is ultimate disclosure. So I was refusing to sign that agreement.

And so they fired Sprague because he wouldn't let the CIA and FBI determine what he was able to see and who he was able to talk to.

I am absolutely convinced that the Congress of the United States has not the slightest interest in a thorough, in-depth investigation into the assassination of the President.

That wasn't the end of the HSCA. The head of the committee called someone else to take Sprague's place, a man named Robert Blakey.

He said he wanted a professional investigation. I said I would give him one.

Blakey was an attorney and law professor who'd gotten national attention for his work on what's known as the Rico laws, which targeted organized crime in the 1970s.

That is important here. There was a clear relationship between the mafia and the CIA in the 60s. Organized crime was treated like another weapon in the CIA's arsenal.

It's interesting because when you search the Warren Report for the terms mafia or organized crime, they're rarely mentioned. And when they are, it's just to say, yeah, they were around, but they weren't responsible for any part of the murder.

We called in the senior people from the Warren Commission and asked them whether the CIA-mavia plots were ever revealed to them, and they said no. In fact, it was withheld from them. And whether the presence of that would have changed the nature of their investigation. They said, Yes.

There you go.

What we did is we set up before again an investigation that was open to a single assassin and was also to a conspiracy. We went down to usual suspects. Did the Russians do it? Did the Cubans do it? Did a particular agency of the United States do it?

Clearly, this is a much different approach than the Warren Commission.

Theirs was a shooter investigation. Ours was a full investigation. We entered into formal agreements as to how we would have access to the most secret materials, including the super secrets from both the FBI and the CIA. I dealt with the director of the FBI and the Admiral that was running the CIA. We got a statement from them both saying, You are being interviewed by a legitimate congressional committee. You are not authorized to lie to these people to save sensitive sources and methods. In other words, give it up.

They were given directive that said, You're not allowed to lie to protect classified information. You must tell the truth. And that directive was written out in a document.

When we interviewed FBI or CIA people, we shoved them these documents.

And do you think they lived up to that agreement?

I did, until the Joe in the '80s scandal broke.

I uncovered this story in 2001.

That's Jefferson Mooreley again, creator of jfkfax. Org.

The CIA sent a man named George Joe and to serve as the.

Liaison to.

The House Select Committee on assassinations and a liaison position in this type of investigation, your job is to help the investigators get access to executive branch material.

Joe Anides had supervision over the relationship between the CIA and the group.

Guess what the CIA failed to tell Blakey about Joe Anetiz?

That he was a supervisor of the relationship between the agency and a particular group of Cubans.

In his self-published 2001 exposé, Morley uncovered that during the Kennedy administration, George Joe Anetiz was chief of the psychological warfare branch of the CIA's Cuban Exile Group in Miami.

The anti-castro exiles were plotting covert ways to remove Castro from power. What's important to understand here is that Joe Anides was supporting and financing this group. Now this guy is the CIA liaison to the House Committee?

Even when he was asked direct questions by the HSCA counsel, Bob Blakey, and by the HSCA investigators, they asked him who was in charge of this Cuban student director in 1963, and Joe and Edie said he didn't know. He, in fact, was the answer to their question. They were looking at the answer to their question in the face.

Morley published his exposé about Joe and Edie's in 2001, and when Blakey read it, he was shocked.

If I had known that he was a supervisor of the relationship between the agency and a particular group of Cubans, I would have put him in the hearings, and I would have had him under oath and I would not have hired him as a facilitator. I would have subpoenaed him as a witness.

Blakey and the rest of the HSA published their report in January of 1979. Completely oblivious at that time to how Joe Anides obstructed the investigation.

This is where they put out their vague statement that deemed that President Kennedy was killed as a result of a, quote, conspiracy. They disagreed with the Warren report, which 15 years earlier said Oswold acted alone. Here's exactly what they say, quote, President John F. Kennedy was probably assassinated as a result of a conspiracy. The committee is unable to identify the other gunmen or the extent of the conspiracy.

They also said that the FBI and the CIA were definitely not involved. So they made some progress. They followed leads the Warren Commission didn't, but Joe Anidis was basically a goalie protecting the CIA.

Were you mad?

Furious.

He was the perfect person to derail the committee. And when you drill down on his backstory, you're going to find a big clue in this case. Dick, can you explain?

As we mentioned, Joe Anidis was the head of the CIA program that supported a group of anti-castro, Cuban exiles. Well, there were a couple of officers who managed that group, and it turns out in the months leading up to the assassination, those CIA officers, the same ones, established contact with an ex-marine in New Orleans, a guy who didn't know it yet, but his days would be numbered.

The contact they made? You guessed it. Lee Harvey Oswalt. Let's sum it up. A CIA group led by George Joe and Edie's, establishes contact with Oswalt weeks before the President's murder. Then the head of that group goes on to block the House Select Committee on assassinations the very group that was tasked with revisiting the Warren Report, which pinned it all on Oswalt.

Okay, so I am fully open to hear what you think happened on that day. Where does this investigation start?

At the scene of the crime. The bullets, the wounds, the forensic evidence will show a clear path towards conspiracy.

Next episode on Who Killed JFK.

Mrs. Kennedy stood.

Right behind.

Where she had.

Been sitting.

There was a.

Pristine bullet. We tackled the infamous single-bullet theory through the eyes of a secret service agent who was there.

When I saw a picture of the bullet, my immediate reaction was, Hey, that's my bullet.

And then it gets really unhinged.

The government had a serious problem, and the problem was called the Dallas Doctor.

Who Killed JFK is hosted by Rob Reiner and me, Soledad O'Brien. Our executive producers are Rob Reiner, Michelle Reiner, Matt George, Jason English, David Hoffman, and me, Soledad O'Brien. Our writer is David Hoffman with research by Dick Russell. Our story editors are Rob Reiner and Julie Piñero. Our senior producer is Julie Piñero. Our producers are Tristan Nash, Dick Russell, Michelle Goldfine, and Amari Lee. Our editors are Tristan Nash, Julie Piñero, and Marcus Di Lauro. Our project manager is Carol Klein. Our associate producer is Emilce Kairos, mixing, mastering and sound design by Ben Lajulie, and archival audio in this episode, thanks to Haroldo Rivera and Dick Russell. Research and Fact Checking by Girl Friday and Emilse Kairos. Our Consulting Producer is Rosanne Galayini. Business Affairs by Helan Nadeya and Jonathan Herman. Recorded in part at CDM Studio and Fourth Street Recording Studio. Show logo by Lucy Quintanilla. Production assistants by Rocco Del Priore and Grace Barron. Special thanks to Joe Honig, Rose Arce, and Dan Storper. If you're enjoying the show, leave us a rating and review on your favorite podcast platform. Who Killed JFK is a production of Soledad O'Brien Productions and iHeart Podcasts.

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60 years ago, the Credit Union was created with one purpose to provide the essential funding that's the lifeblood of any thriving community, and to do this not for profit, but for better reasons. For members, for communities, for fairness, for futures, for potential, for inclusion, for change. The Credit Union. For you, not profit. Credit Unions in the Republic of Ireland are regulated by the Central Bank of Ireland.

Hi, I'm Daniel Tosh, host of a new podcast called Tosh Show. I'll be interviewing people that I find interesting, so not celebrities and certainly not comedians. We'll be covering topics like religion, travel, sports, gambling, but mostly it will be about being a working mother. If you're looking for a podcast that will educate and inspire or one that will really make you think, this isn't the one for you. Listen to Tosh Show on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.

My name is Payne Lindsay. Throughout my career, I've had the chance to travel all over the place investigating true crimes, researching the unexplained, and I've been able to meet some of the most truly interesting people. I've decided to sit down with them and pick their brains. We're going to talk about life, death, unsolved crimes, the supernatural. There's something here. Truly something going on. Honestly, just whatever the hell is on our minds. Wait a minute. You should be very happy. You want to? This is Talking to Death. New episodes of Talking to Death are available now. Listen on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.